Neogaf Mod Amir0x busted for child porn.

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Evilore says he doesn't know Amir0x's real name when he has been at conventions with him in person and other people in the gaming community know they know each other.

He's desperately trying to ban users and delete/lock threads that ask what the hell is going on. He made a long post explaining the issue...locking the thread with no further way to discuss.

North Korea has nothing on NeoGAF.

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You can't make this shit up.

^ I already linked the statement Evilore made, he never said he didn't know Amir0x's real name. He said the current mod team had no idea what his real name was, which is makes sense since he hasn't been a mod on NeoGAF for YEARS. Once it was confirmed to actually be him he was permanently banned and actions were taken. The moderation team are currently working on a statement. Chill your pants. And, no one has been banned for asking questions, stop making things up.

bjj hero:
Some people are shitty human beings who get off on seeing children hurt and abused. There are enough of them around that you will have heard of some of them.

Having said that, I dont know this guy or neoguff.

You know people dont decide what or who they are attracted to right? Pedophilia is a (unfortunate) sexual orientation. At least he didn't actually hurt anyone. The real criminal are the ones taking the pictures and posting them.

oRevanchisto:
^ I already linked the statement Evilore made, he never said he didn't know Amir0x's real name. He said the current mod team had no idea what his real name was, which is makes sense since he hasn't been a mod on NeoGAF for YEARS. Once it was confirmed to actually be him he was permanently banned and actions were taken. The moderation team are currently working on a statement. Chill your pants. And, no one has been banned for asking questions, stop making things up.

You're right, no one has been banned (that I've seen). I was confusing when someone asked where a thread about racism went. My mistake.

shrekfan246:

Silentpony:
Makes you wonder what the real purpose of the anti-GG movement was...

No, it doesn't, really, given the fact that the vast majority of "the anti-GG movement" was just people who were sick and tired of "the pro-GG movement".

Wasn't it the other way around? Didn't SJW's pick the damn fight with gamers in the first place?

Casual Shinji:

Ezekiel:
I can't judge without seeing what he looked at. It might have been art for all I know. Child porn criteria are too broad and vague.

Heck, I got a naked 5-year old on home video. *psst* It's me.

Try to get a picture developed of your naked 5 year old self and tell us what happens.

WeepingAngels:

shrekfan246:

Silentpony:
Makes you wonder what the real purpose of the anti-GG movement was...

No, it doesn't, really, given the fact that the vast majority of "the anti-GG movement" was just people who were sick and tired of "the pro-GG movement".

Wasn't it the other way around? Didn't SJW's pick the damn fight with gamers in the first place?

No?

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:

shrekfan246:

No, it doesn't, really, given the fact that the vast majority of "the anti-GG movement" was just people who were sick and tired of "the pro-GG movement".

Wasn't it the other way around? Didn't SJW's pick the damn fight with gamers in the first place?

No?

Yes it was, some gamers were upset about Zoe Quinn sleeping with reviewers because it was unethical and then shit hit the fan when SJW's began accusing male gamers of hating women.

WeepingAngels:

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:
Wasn't it the other way around? Didn't SJW's pick the damn fight with gamers in the first place?

No?

Yes it was, some gamers were upset about Zoe Quinn sleeping with reviewers because it was unethical and then shit hit the fan when SJW's began accusing male gamers of hating women.

I mean, Reddit being so overwhelmed that human moderators couldn't keep up with automated dox being flung and the GG movement being too toxic for 4chan despite /pol/ and /b/ existing, all over "unethical reviews" which don't exist...

Headdrivehardscrew:

LostGryphon:

BreakfastMan:
The fact that any of you still actually care about GamerGate is incredibly sad. It was fucking 3 years ago, move on people, damn.

Honestly, it only ever comes up here, on youtube sometimes, and in random articles I read related to internet safety or whatever.

It's in those places 'cause people have a hard time letting go...and you couple that with it being brought up from time to time, then the ball of sadness just keeps rolling.

Hell. GG ended in like 2014-2015. I dunno how some folks are still so into it.

You may be correct about the outrage, the somewhat contained phenomenon that was dubbed "GG". It was only the response of one community to a blatantly obvious attack, only one metastatic growth that caused an itch which, in turn, required some scratching.

The underlying causes are still up and running, which is why the struggle is still ongoing.

Do you, or others, ever wonder why this once bustling forum turned into a ghost town? Do you ever wonder why discussion and discourse got replaced by deafening silence? Do you even think one side already "won"?

Our society is being weakened by selective, oftentimes fictional empowerment and alien ideologies that aim at little more than causing division. We cannot possibly move on before this clash of ideologies is resolved one way or another. See you on the other side.

Fantastic post! You know people here were still defending Anita after she lashed out at Boogie in an obvious show of uncertainty about her message that harassment online only affects women. How can people continue to back the 'only women in gaming are important' side?

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:

altnameJag:
No?

Yes it was, some gamers were upset about Zoe Quinn sleeping with reviewers because it was unethical and then shit hit the fan when SJW's began accusing male gamers of hating women.

I mean, Reddit being so overwhelmed that human moderators couldn't keep up with automated dox being flung and the GG movement being too toxic for 4chan despite /pol/ and /b/ existing, all over "unethical reviews" which don't exist...

Doxxing happens on both sides and most people don't support it. Are you trying to ignore that male gamers were attacked by SJW's and they actually fought back instead of backing down?

WeepingAngels:

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:
Wasn't it the other way around? Didn't SJW's pick the damn fight with gamers in the first place?

No?

Yes it was, some gamers were upset about Zoe Quinn sleeping with reviewers because it was unethical and then shit hit the fan when SJW's began accusing male gamers of hating women.

Uh, didn't she sleep with only one reviewer, who didn't actually review her game, at all? That was clear fairly early too from what I remember, so it was fellow gamers calling out the original bullshit, and then getting pissed that they were being called SJWs for it.

Or at least that's how we can frame it if we are being as blatantly one sided as you are being. Calling it SJWs like it was some outside force attacking gamers rather than people within the hobby calling out other people within the hobby seems a wee bit dishonest.

EternallyBored:

WeepingAngels:

altnameJag:
No?

Yes it was, some gamers were upset about Zoe Quinn sleeping with reviewers because it was unethical and then shit hit the fan when SJW's began accusing male gamers of hating women.

Uh, didn't she sleep with only one reviewer, who didn't actually review her game, at all? That was clear fairly early too from what I remember, so it was fellow gamers calling out the original bullshit, and then getting pissed that they were being called SJWs for it.

Or at least that's how we can frame it if we are being as blatantly one sided as you are being. Calling it SJWs like it was some outside force attacking gamers rather than people within the hobby calling out other people within the hobby seems a wee bit dishonest.

It was SJW's, outside force or not, shall we now debate whether Anita was really a gamer or if she lied about that? To simplify matters, if I call you a woman hater and try to change the games you enjoy because of it, are you ok with letting that go? If I say that women are underrepresented in video games but don't mention that men are almost always the bullet sponges and the bad guys, are you ok with that biased look at video games and their fans?

Just tell me where you align with the SJW message?

It's a complex issue but I found this veteran developers take on it interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9DiVLJO-pA&t=518s

Silentpony:
Can't be! He was anti-Gamergate and as we all know, everyone who was pro Gamergate was literally worse than a Nazi, and all the noble Knights against those Nazis were shining exemplars of nobility, Social Justice, and equality.

Absolutely no way someone anti-Gamergate would be a disgusting hypocrite

Well, it's not like GamerGate had a massive presence and indeed, much of it's origins, on a site that was known for distributing child porn, right?

"Mods are Asleep, Post CP..."

WeepingAngels:

EternallyBored:

WeepingAngels:

Yes it was, some gamers were upset about Zoe Quinn sleeping with reviewers because it was unethical and then shit hit the fan when SJW's began accusing male gamers of hating women.

Uh, didn't she sleep with only one reviewer, who didn't actually review her game, at all? That was clear fairly early too from what I remember, so it was fellow gamers calling out the original bullshit, and then getting pissed that they were being called SJWs for it.

Or at least that's how we can frame it if we are being as blatantly one sided as you are being. Calling it SJWs like it was some outside force attacking gamers rather than people within the hobby calling out other people within the hobby seems a wee bit dishonest.

It was SJW's, outside force or not, shall we now debate whether Anita was really a gamer or if she lied about that? To simplify matters, if I call you a woman hater and try to change the games you enjoy because of it, are you ok with letting that go? If I say that women are underrepresented in video games but don't mention that men are almost always the bullet sponges and the bad guys, are you ok with that biased look at video games and their fans?

Just tell me where you align with the SJW message?

It's a complex issue but I found this guys take on it interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9DiVLJO-pA&t=518s

"But Gamergate is totes about ethics in game journalism and not about Anita Sarkeesian. I mean, literally who is that?"

Guy, we had this conversation damn near 3 years ago,and the language hasn't even changed. The arguments are still the same, verbatim.

And Anita Sarkeesian never called gamers "women-haters", but I sure got called a lot of shit for having the temerity to think video games could do better on the representation front.

BreakfastMan:
The fact that any of you still actually care about GamerGate is incredibly sad. It was fucking 3 years ago, move on people, damn.

When "cuckold" returns to referring to only a specific fetish community, and "beta" mainly refers to an obsolete brand of video player, then we can start drawing up the peace accord.

Till then, the bayonets remain fixed.

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:

EternallyBored:

Uh, didn't she sleep with only one reviewer, who didn't actually review her game, at all? That was clear fairly early too from what I remember, so it was fellow gamers calling out the original bullshit, and then getting pissed that they were being called SJWs for it.

Or at least that's how we can frame it if we are being as blatantly one sided as you are being. Calling it SJWs like it was some outside force attacking gamers rather than people within the hobby calling out other people within the hobby seems a wee bit dishonest.

It was SJW's, outside force or not, shall we now debate whether Anita was really a gamer or if she lied about that? To simplify matters, if I call you a woman hater and try to change the games you enjoy because of it, are you ok with letting that go? If I say that women are underrepresented in video games but don't mention that men are almost always the bullet sponges and the bad guys, are you ok with that biased look at video games and their fans?

Just tell me where you align with the SJW message?

It's a complex issue but I found this guys take on it interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9DiVLJO-pA&t=518s

"But Gamergate is totes about ethics in game journalism and not about Anita Sarkeesian. I mean, literally who is that?"

Guy, we had this conversation damn near 3 years ago,and the language hasn't even changed. The arguments are still the same, verbatim.

And Anita Sarkeesian never called gamers "women-haters", but I sure got called a lot of shit for having the temerity to think video games could do better on the representation front.

Which representation front?

WeepingAngels:

EternallyBored:

WeepingAngels:

Yes it was, some gamers were upset about Zoe Quinn sleeping with reviewers because it was unethical and then shit hit the fan when SJW's began accusing male gamers of hating women.

Uh, didn't she sleep with only one reviewer, who didn't actually review her game, at all? That was clear fairly early too from what I remember, so it was fellow gamers calling out the original bullshit, and then getting pissed that they were being called SJWs for it.

Or at least that's how we can frame it if we are being as blatantly one sided as you are being. Calling it SJWs like it was some outside force attacking gamers rather than people within the hobby calling out other people within the hobby seems a wee bit dishonest.

It was SJW's, outside force or not, shall we now debate whether Anita was really a gamer or if she lied about that? To simplify matters, if I call you a woman hater and try to change the games you enjoy because of it, are you ok with letting that go? If I say that women are underrepresented in video games but don't mention that men are almost always the bullet sponges and the bad guys, are you ok with that biased look at video games and their fans?

Just tell me where you align with the SJW message?

Dunno, are you ok with people calling you an SJW and saying that you are destroying games, that the games you enjoy are diversity pandering trash that should fail financially even for blatant falsehoods like someone lied about Anita being anywhere near the game (Mirror's Edge 2).

Are you ok with letting that go?

Being framed as an outside force to a hobby you've been in your whole life, that you criticizing games like normal, but somehow whenever you bring up women in any capacity you are a dirty "SJW" and that criticism suddenly takes on a destructive edge and rather than a conversation about what you like or don't like about a game you are suddenly an outsider trying to destroy and change games with your criticism.

Just tell me where you align with the anti-sjw message?

Yeah, doesn't sound any less ranty and pointless when I reframe it, also that last line seems kind of weirdly ominous, like you don't even want to have a debate you just want to slot someone into their appropriate group, "tell me where you align with the Communist/fascist/anarchist agenda"? Who talks like that?

WeepingAngels:

Casual Shinji:
Heck, I got a naked 5-year old on home video. *psst* It's me.

Try to get a picture developed of your naked 5 year old self and tell us what happens.

Well, I had the VHS copied to a DVD at a photoshop, and I ain't in jail yet, so...

WeepingAngels:

Which representation front?

Damn near all of them.

I just don't get mad if someone starts bringing up the representation they have a stake in instead of going #alllivematter all the time, every time.

If someone wants to try and make the argument that games should be more diverse because white dudes make up most of the bulletsponge enemies in games, more power to them. But I only ever, ever, hear that argument in the context of "and that's why that beta cuck feminist professional victim SJW should shut up, gaming is fine!".

EternallyBored:

WeepingAngels:

EternallyBored:

Uh, didn't she sleep with only one reviewer, who didn't actually review her game, at all? That was clear fairly early too from what I remember, so it was fellow gamers calling out the original bullshit, and then getting pissed that they were being called SJWs for it.

Or at least that's how we can frame it if we are being as blatantly one sided as you are being. Calling it SJWs like it was some outside force attacking gamers rather than people within the hobby calling out other people within the hobby seems a wee bit dishonest.

It was SJW's, outside force or not, shall we now debate whether Anita was really a gamer or if she lied about that? To simplify matters, if I call you a woman hater and try to change the games you enjoy because of it, are you ok with letting that go? If I say that women are underrepresented in video games but don't mention that men are almost always the bullet sponges and the bad guys, are you ok with that biased look at video games and their fans?

Just tell me where you align with the SJW message?

Dunno, are you ok with people calling you an SJW and saying that you are destroying games, that the games you enjoy are diversity pandering trash that should fail financially even for blatant falsehoods like someone lied about Anita being anywhere near the game (Mirror's Edge 2).

Are you ok with letting that go?

Being framed as an outside force to a hobby you've been in your whole life, that you criticizing games like normal, but somehow whenever you bring up women in any capacity you are a dirty "SJW" and that criticism suddenly takes on a destructive edge and rather than a conversation about what you like or don't like about a game you are suddenly an outsider trying to destroy and change games with your criticism.

Just tell me where you align with the anti-sjw message?

Yeah, doesn't sound any less ranty and pointless when I reframe it, also that last line seems kind of weirdly ominous, like you don't even want to have a debate you just want to slot someone into their appropriate group, "tell me where you align with the Communist/fascist/anarchist agenda"? Who talks like that?

Here is how I align. Games mostly contain male antagonists and male bullet sponges. This wouldn't be an issue but the fight was brought to us but in a 'only female representation matters' sort of way. If we are going to play the equality games then let's play it, make more female antagonists AND FEMALE BULLET SPONGES. Make as many incompetent females as they are incompetent males. That's where I align.

I don't believe most male gamers are misogynistic, I believe they just wanted to be left the fuck alone to play games and I believe that accusations of such were unwelcome.

Troy Leavitt:
Gamergate was a consumer-led revolt against the religion of Identity Politics

I agree with this. It's from the link posted above.

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:

Which representation front?

Damn near all of them.

I just don't get mad if someone starts bringing up the representation they have a stake in instead of going #alllivematter all the time, every time.

If someone wants to try and make the argument that games should be more diverse because white dudes make up most of the bulletsponge enemies in games, more power to them. But I only ever, ever, hear that argument in the context of "and that's why that beta cuck feminist professional victim SJW should shut up, gaming is fine!".

Yes, you only hear that argument when the other side demands equality. It's because one side is picking the fight and the other side is responding.

WeepingAngels:

Here is how I align. Games mostly contain male antagonists and male bullet sponges. This wouldn't be an issue but the fight was brought to us but in a 'only female representation matters' sort of way. If we are going to play the equality games then let's play it, make more female antagonists AND FEMALE BULLET SPONGES. Make as many incompetent females as they are incompetent males. That's where I align.

I don't believe most male gamers are misogynistic, I believe they just wanted to be left the fuck alone to play games and I believe that accusations of such were unwelcome.

Troy Leavitt:
Gamergate was a consumer-led revolt against the religion of Identity Politics

I agree with this. It's from the link posted above.

Fun fact, during the height of the controversy, most gamers neither knew nor cared about Gamergate. "Being left the fuck alone to play games" is the default state of gaming.

"GamerGate" was Identity Politics, "real, true gamers" protecting their hobby from feminists and SJWs and anybody else with the wrong opinion.

WeepingAngels:

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:

Which representation front?

Damn near all of them.

I just don't get mad if someone starts bringing up the representation they have a stake in instead of going #alllivematter all the time, every time.

If someone wants to try and make the argument that games should be more diverse because white dudes make up most of the bulletsponge enemies in games, more power to them. But I only ever, ever, hear that argument in the context of "and that's why that beta cuck feminist professional victim SJW should shut up, gaming is fine!".

Yes, you only hear that argument when the other side demands equality. It's because one side is picking the fight and the other side is responding.

Who's fighting? What fight? Do you actually want better representation of men in video games or do you just want to freeze out those other ideas?

EDIT: I mean, if you just want people with the bad opinions to shut up and go away, just say so. Better yet, hid their YouTube channels and the videos from the people who make a living yelling at them. Problem fucking solved mate.

Just don't feed me the "but what about the menz" line if you don't actually give a shit about the menz.

Casual Shinji:

WeepingAngels:

Casual Shinji:
Heck, I got a naked 5-year old on home video. *psst* It's me.

Try to get a picture developed of your naked 5 year old self and tell us what happens.

Well, I had the VHS copied to a DVD at a photoshop, and I ain't in jail yet, so...

If the shop actually watched the video (do they watch them all), the nakedness was obviously in context but just a lone picture without context that the lab technician will certainly view is not the same (and you know it).

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:

altnameJag:
Damn near all of them.

I just don't get mad if someone starts bringing up the representation they have a stake in instead of going #alllivematter all the time, every time.

If someone wants to try and make the argument that games should be more diverse because white dudes make up most of the bulletsponge enemies in games, more power to them. But I only ever, ever, hear that argument in the context of "and that's why that beta cuck feminist professional victim SJW should shut up, gaming is fine!".

Yes, you only hear that argument when the other side demands equality. It's because one side is picking the fight and the other side is responding.

Who's fighting? What fight? Do you actually want better representation of men in video games or do you just want to freeze out those other ideas?

I want video games to be left alone and for people to let developers decide what they want in their games. However, if we are to have equality shoved down our throats then let's really have equality, full stop.

WeepingAngels:

I want video games to be left alone and for people to let developers decide what they want in their games. However, if we are to have equality shoved down our throats then let's really have equality, full stop.

Okay, so what aspects of video games are people allowed to have opinions on? Because I think Activision's handling of the Modern Warfare remaster has been dire, but I wouldn't want to pressure a developer into changing aspects of their game.

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:

I want video games to be left alone and for people to let developers decide what they want in their games. However, if we are to have equality shoved down our throats then let's really have equality, full stop.

Okay, so what aspects of video games are people allowed to have opinions on? Because I think Activision's handling of the Modern Warfare remaster has been dire, but I wouldn't want to pressure a developer into changing aspects of their game.

Just leave identity politics out of it. Here's another Troy Leavitt video about the timeline of Gamergate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agQ0PWXb6-U

WeepingAngels:

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:

I want video games to be left alone and for people to let developers decide what they want in their games. However, if we are to have equality shoved down our throats then let's really have equality, full stop.

Okay, so what aspects of video games are people allowed to have opinions on? Because I think Activision's handling of the Modern Warfare remaster has been dire, but I wouldn't want to pressure a developer into changing aspects of their game.

Just leave identity politics out of it. Here's another Troy Leavitt video about the timeline of Gamergate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agQ0PWXb6-U

Your argument is pure identity politics. I don't care about Troy Leavitt's opinion, I want to hear your opinion.

If I'm complaining about character design, what am I not allowed to complain about without it being "identity politics"? Can I complain about Velvet Crowe wearing two quarters of a shirt held together by boot straps and a brooch while she also wears half a trench coat and no less then 4 goddamned belts? Can I talk about how, in Granblue Fantasy, Gran Valkyrie gets a cool set of white armor while Djeeta Valkyrie gets a metal bikini? (I like the game's character designs, but yeesh.)

Where's the line for talking characters? Where's the line for talking story? Is everybody who's getting mad that COD:WW2 lets you customize your character into being a lady in multiplayer an SJW' or were the devs SJWs for putting that option in? Isn't complaining about that "pressuring the developer"?

altnameJag:

WeepingAngels:

altnameJag:
Okay, so what aspects of video games are people allowed to have opinions on? Because I think Activision's handling of the Modern Warfare remaster has been dire, but I wouldn't want to pressure a developer into changing aspects of their game.

Just leave identity politics out of it. Here's another Troy Leavitt video about the timeline of Gamergate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agQ0PWXb6-U

Your argument is pure identity politics. I don't care about Troy Leavitt's opinion, I want to hear your opinion.

If I'm complaining about character design, what am I not allowed to complain about without it being "identity politics"? Can I complain about Velvet Crowe wearing two quarters of a shirt held together by boot straps and a brooch while she also wears half a trench coat and no less then 4 goddamned belts? Can I talk about how, in Granblue Fantasy, Gran Valkyrie gets a cool set of white armor while Djeeta Valkyrie gets a metal bikini? (I like the game's character designs, but yeesh.)

Where's the line for talking characters? Where's the line for talking story? Is everybody who's getting mad that COD:WW2 lets you customize your character into being a lady in multiplayer an SJW' or were the devs SJWs for putting that option in? Isn't complaining about that "pressuring the developer"?

I gave you my opinion and I offered an opinion from a developer who is better spoken than I am. Carry on with your crusade.

Smithnikov:

BreakfastMan:
The fact that any of you still actually care about GamerGate is incredibly sad. It was fucking 3 years ago, move on people, damn.

When "cuckold" returns to referring to only a specific fetish community, and "beta" mainly refers to an obsolete brand of video player, then we can start drawing up the peace accord.

Till then, the bayonets remain fixed.

Hate to break it to you, but posting isn't war, my friend.

Lufia Erim:

bjj hero:
Some people are shitty human beings who get off on seeing children hurt and abused. There are enough of them around that you will have heard of some of them.

Having said that, I dont know this guy or neoguff.

You know people dont decide what or who they are attracted to right? Pedophilia is a (unfortunate) sexual orientation. At least he didn't actually hurt anyone. The real criminal are the ones taking the pictures and posting them.

You can be turned on by almost anything. I could think my brothers wife is gorgeous... but I dont act on it.

You can say he didnt hurt anyone. Tell that to someone who is having pictures of themselves being tortured and raped passed around and masturbated too. They might disagree that he is not hurting anyone.

I respectfully disagree with you and I will not be excusing people viewing and sharing child abuse material. They are real criminals, morally and legally.

BreakfastMan:

Smithnikov:

BreakfastMan:
The fact that any of you still actually care about GamerGate is incredibly sad. It was fucking 3 years ago, move on people, damn.

When "cuckold" returns to referring to only a specific fetish community, and "beta" mainly refers to an obsolete brand of video player, then we can start drawing up the peace accord.

Till then, the bayonets remain fixed.

Hate to break it to you, but posting isn't war, my friend.

Sure, and next you are going to tell me that flame wars aren't real, I got my Purple Heart in the Bioware forum war of 2012, do not deride my honorable service in the trenches good sir. I can still hear the sounds of the incoming shit posts whenever I close my eyes.

Seriously though, like calling it a flame war, im pretty war comparisons for forum fights are pretty common, While I can't speak for smith, it's pretty standard internet analogy hyperbole, then again we've got weeping angels in here describing identity politics as a religion and making dire declarations, so maybe toning down the hyperbole couldn't hurt.

bjj hero:

Lufia Erim:

bjj hero:
Some people are shitty human beings who get off on seeing children hurt and abused. There are enough of them around that you will have heard of some of them.

Having said that, I dont know this guy or neoguff.

You know people dont decide what or who they are attracted to right? Pedophilia is a (unfortunate) sexual orientation. At least he didn't actually hurt anyone. The real criminal are the ones taking the pictures and posting them.

You can be turned on by almost anything. I could think my brothers wife is gorgeous... but I dont act on it.

You can say he didnt hurt anyone. Tell that to someone who is having pictures of themselves being tortured and raped passed around and masturbated too. They might disagree that he is not hurting anyone.

I respectfully disagree with you and I will not be excusing people viewing and sharing child abuse material. They are real criminals, morally and legally.

I know I was traumatized by those out of the bathtub shots that my mom took when I was young.

BreakfastMan:

Hate to break it to you, but posting isn't war, my friend.

Proclaiming a desire to kill, however, is.

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