Neogaf Mod Amir0x busted for child porn.

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Like with closeted gay right wing people being super anti-gay, closeted sjw pedos are the most fervent anti-pedos. Everyone's disgusted by the abuse of children but unless someone you know has been a victim, most normal people don't go on self-righteous tirades, aiming their ire at mere videogames which hurt nobody, because some pedos might potentially like them, so when one of those people gets busted for being a huge hypocrite, like with the closeted gay senators using gay hookup sites, I can understand the sentiment of vindication that a lot of unjustly maligned people felt.

As for the whole gamergate thing (I don't call it GG, that's Guilty Gear, dang it! XD) I don't really get why it has been branded "right wing" since usually it's the right wing that is the one trying to limit what videogames entail or police culture based on morality. If you find that defending games or gaming culture from an outsider controlling force is the right wing action, then there's only right wing in this country and just less strong variants of it.

I just don't like authoritarians, I didn't much care about that whole kerfuffle initially but when a bunch of sites jumped the gun and decided to call gamers a dead identity or something, that was a galvanizing moment for me and a lot of people. I didn't also turn right wing at that moment after a whole life of growing up in a socialist country and having liberal principles because I vehemently disagree with being branded as some kind of sub-human autistic man-baby lol.

To me, the thing gamergate is all about is striking back at those people who struck the first blow by maligning gamers and gaming, that we would have to side with right wind politics peddlers to do it is insignificant and not at all a show of agreeing on every other random BS thing these people believe, because gaming is more important than politics if you are to be called a gamer.

Now, that all was like 3 years ago, so I don't really know what more has to be said about this, but every time some people seem to think that everyone who wasn't against the movement was "pro harassment" or some such nonsense, one has to correct that misconception.

WeepingAngels:

Casual Shinji:

Ezekiel:
I can't judge without seeing what he looked at. It might have been art for all I know. Child porn criteria are too broad and vague.

Heck, I got a naked 5-year old on home video. *psst* It's me.

Try to get a picture developed of your naked 5 year old self and tell us what happens.

Who gets pictures developed anymore? Is that even still a service that exists?

Anyone who takes pictures on film these days knows how to develop it themselves because they're enthusiasts, and everyone else uses digital cameras and prints them out.

runic knight:

Doesn't take away what "they" did, they being what?

Death threats via helicopter tour, proclaiming me an enemy of my hobby I've defended, saying I get off on watching my wife have sex with other men....

Such as the open lie about "distributing CP"

Mods are asleep, Post CP.

You act like I haven't been to /b/.

That you demonize an entire group to this day for it is telling.

If I'm a valid target for it, so are they.

Makes me wonder if a man of Hispanic origin stole your parking spot on that day you wouldn't be blaming the mexicans instead now.

As for farcry 5? The game that got praised by a number of the far-left leaning folk, including the forums in the site Neogaf, as a far-right murder simulator until they corrected the misunderstanding of it, and then got lambasted by those who cheered it previously?

Yes, the game that GamerGate put out a petition to have the antagonists changed to Muslims, despite the cries that GG was for dev freedom to make the games they wanted.

The chans were known to work with federal investigators into actual child porn (you know, not cartoons, real children) so that is an avenue I hadn't thought of before. Perhaps Neogaf were working with the fed as a means to track down folk like Amir0x as well?

Citation needed on that one.

FriendoftheFallen:

Does being abusive to others ever do anything other than alienate?

It makes you the cool kids on the internet, actually.

Why did you just misrepresent runic knight?

Firstly, I dont' think I did. Secondly, if I did, it must be okay because GG misrepresented me, right down to my bedroom habits.

Gamergate politics are not all right wing nationalist. Some are just anti-authoritarian liberal.

When I can go post on /pol/ with actual anti authoritarian left wing views and not get called a Equalitard/cuck/Jew/faggot, I'll buy that.

Straw man. Most people didn't care who the villains were in Far Cry 5.

Enough did. The promo picture got changed.

nothing you said in this post shows that all of GG is right wing.

Matt Forney clinking beer glasses with Milo and Based Mom, and I'm wrong for assuming GG is righ wing. Sure.

If you want to misrepresent others and put them into political pigeonholes then do not be surprised if you are perceived as being rude and unnecessarily combative.

Considering what I'm already percieved as, that would be a step up. Sure is better than a Communist or Cuckold.

Does that include calls to cull those who disagree?

Definitely, which is what they wish to do. Unless being thrown from a helicopter doesn't count as "culling."

Dirty Hipsters:

WeepingAngels:

Casual Shinji:
Heck, I got a naked 5-year old on home video. *psst* It's me.

Try to get a picture developed of your naked 5 year old self and tell us what happens.

Who gets pictures developed anymore? Is that even still a service that exists?

Anyone who takes pictures on film these days knows how to develop it themselves because they're enthusiasts, and everyone else uses digital cameras and prints them out.

Yes, people get digital pictures developed all the time.

OT: Troy Leavitt has posted another video, this one about males being disposable in video games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNla4411O78&t

Dreiko:

As for the whole gamergate thing (I don't call it GG, that's Guilty Gear, dang it! XD) I don't really get why it has been branded "right wing"

Parading Matt Forney and Milo as their paladins.

Giving the NRA a pass on their anti-gaming rhetoric.

Slobbering over a Trump presidency.

Gee, I have no idea why...

since usually it's the right wing that is the one trying to limit what videogames entail or police culture based on morality

I know, right?

If you find that defending games or gaming culture from an outsider controlling force is the right wing action, then there's only right wing in this country and just less strong variants of it.

Well, it can be if you're wanting gaming culture to be right in it'self, something they proved they wanted when they demanded FC5 to change it's antagonists to Muslims and for Star Wars's writers to change Phasmal back to a man.

I just don't like authoritarians, I didn't much care about that whole kerfuffle initially but when a bunch of sites jumped the gun and decided to call gamers a dead identity or something, that was a galvanizing moment for me and a lot of people.

For a short time, it was for me too. The writers of those articles deserved every ounce of crap they got, if only for being clickbaity in their titles.

I didn't also turn right wing at that moment after a whole life of growing up in a socialist country and having liberal principles because I vehemently disagree with being branded as some kind of sub-human autistic man-baby lol.

Then how did you avoid getting branded a cuckold or a Jew?

To me, the thing gamergate is all about is striking back at those people who struck the first blow by maligning gamers and gaming, that we would have to side with right wind politics peddlers to do it is insignificant and not at all a show of agreeing on every other random BS thing these people believe, because gaming is more important than politics if you are to be called a gamer.

Including supporting a blatantly anti gaming group (the NRA)?

Now, that all was like 3 years ago, so I don't really know what more has to be said about this, but every time some people seem to think that everyone who wasn't against the movement was "pro harassment" or some such nonsense, one has to correct that misconception.

Actually, the "harassers" argument never held water with me. My entire beef with GG was their hipocrisy on claiming they want an apolitical gamer culture while not just giving right wing anti-gaming groups and people a complete pass, but wanting gaming culture to reflect right wing nationalist (if not full on ethno-nationalist) views.

Smithnikov:

Parading Matt Forney and Milo as their paladins.

Giving the NRA a pass on their anti-gaming rhetoric.

Slobbering over a Trump presidency.

Gee, I have no idea why...

Milo's support in this context was divorced from his other opinions as far as I saw it. He didn't bring them up and nobody cared about them. If you're saying the right things here, what other crazy things you may or may not believe (which is debatable in his case, as he's somewhat of a performance act) is irrelevant.

I am unaware of how the nra was "pardoned" in any meaningful sense, as it is just one more of those groups on every gamer's shitlist which doesn't even need people to debunk it because its credibility is nonexistent in the community. If you had people being white knights for the NRA as they are for someone like Anita, I expect a lot of people would not have let that slide.

Lots of (incomprehensible) people voted for Trump out of every group, sadly. I would say that more of them would have voted for Bernie if he was a candidate.

Then how did you avoid getting branded a cuckold or a Jew?

I never behaved like neither so I had no risk of being branded that. I mainly care about gaming above politics so I had very little reason of even bringing politics up at all and if you don't bring it up yourself but just focus on the cool, epic and hype game-related content while supporting freedom from censorship and try and help build up the community with a passionate approach, there's very little for people to use to brand you as anything with. (also, I didn't know that one could be branded as a Jew, is it like the class in the south park rpg? lol)

Actually, the "harassers" argument never held water with me. My entire beef with GG was their hipocrisy on claiming they want an apolitical gamer culture while not just giving right wing anti-gaming groups and people a complete pass, but wanting gaming culture to reflect right wing nationalist (if not full on ethno-nationalist) views.

Yeah see, I never associated that with anything related to anything outside of specific people thinking specific things. I never saw the reason to apply it to the whole, it's just what some people did. I know this because I never felt pressured to act in a way that is "right wing" in order to feel accepted bitching about being called a man child or when complaining about journalists blaming George Kamitani for drawing humongous bosoms or about hilariously-needless censorship and so on.

As long as you focus on gaming and ignore the politics, as most people who participated back in they day did, that right wing tint you're referencing never comes up. Just like how we don't let sjws co-opt gaming, so should we not let anyone else, either, and by refusing to let the movement get branded right wing we take away the power of those people who wish it be branded thus to further their own goals.

Dreiko:
Milo's support in this context was divorced from his other opinions as far as I saw it. He didn't bring them up and nobody cared about them. If you're saying the right things here, what other crazy things you may or may not believe (which is debatable in his case, as he's somewhat of a performance act) is irrelevant.

That doesn't speak well to Gamergate's integrity. "We'll forgive anything so long as you tell us what we want to hear."

I never behaved like neither so I had no risk of being branded that.

Wow. There's a lot to unpack in there. How exactly does a person into cuckoldry behave that would out them as such? More to the point, how does one act Jewish?

I mainly care about gaming above politics so I had very little reason of even bringing politics up at all and if you don't bring it up yourself but just focus on the cool, epic and hype game-related content while supporting freedom from censorship and try and help build up the community with a passionate approach, there's very little for people to use to brand you as anything with. (also, I didn't know that one could be branded as a Jew, is it like the class in the south park rpg? lol)

That sounds a lot like intellectual laziness to me.

As long as you focus on gaming and ignore the politics, as most people who participated back in they day did, that right wing tint you're referencing never comes up. Just like how we don't let sjws co-opt gaming, so should we not let anyone else, either, and by refusing to let the movement get branded right wing we take away the power of those people who wish it be branded thus to further their own goals.

So gaming is the one artform that must never have opinions?

BeetleManiac:

That doesn't speak well to Gamergate's integrity. "We'll forgive anything so long as you tell us what we want to hear."

I never once used the hashtag so I don't see how it would speak to anything regarding it lol. I'm just explaining how I saw the events as they unfolded from the perspective of a sympathetic bystander as opposed to an active participant. Milo was saying a lot of true, correct things when speaking about the issues regarding game's journalism. What other crazy things he said in different situations is irrelevant.

Wow. There's a lot to unpack in there. How exactly does a person into cuckoldry behave that would out them as such? More to the point, how does one act Jewish?

Both things, in my understanding, have a bunch of typical stereotypes attached. I believe not "betraying what you should be protecting" (in this case, gaming) is how you don't get called a cuck. As for Jew, I don't really know, as indicated by my question about the south park class. I have never witnessed anyone being specifically "branded" a Jew, but I know I definitely haven't been, so that must be due to some part of my conduct if it's not just plain luck.

That sounds a lot like intellectual laziness to me.

Apathy, not laziness. I'm a gamer, an anime fan, not a politics geek.

So gaming is the one artform that must never have opinions?

It can have opinions, but to make them the focal point of gaming is anathema to its point of existing. If the most standout thing about something game-related is not about games but about some outside-of-game object, then gaming is subservient and inferior to that other thing. If we wish gaming to be an end in and of itself and not merely a means to an end, as all who love gaming should, then we should try to focus more on what gaming is actually about and less on the opinions of those who like games or who pretend to do so because they get more ears for their BS that way.

Dreiko:
I never once used the hashtag so I don't see how it would speak to anything regarding it lol. I'm just explaining how I saw the events as they unfolded from the perspective of a sympathetic bystander as opposed to an active participant. Milo was saying a lot of true, correct things when speaking about the issues regarding game's journalism. What other crazy things he said in different situations is irrelevant.

Exactly, so long as he told you what you wanted to hear, you were absolutely willing to overlook his credibility problems, his hostile and dehumanizing rhetoric and general shittiness as a person. All that matters is that some of the people he shit on were people you hate.

Both things, in my understanding, have a bunch of typical stereotypes attached. I believe not "betraying what you should be protecting" (in this case, gaming) is how you don't get called a cuck. As for Jew, I don't really know, as indicated by my question about the south park class. I have never witnessed anyone being specifically "branded" a Jew, but I know I definitely haven't been, so that must be due to some part of my conduct if it's not just plain luck.

You really didn't put any thought into this, did you?

Apathy, not laziness. I'm a gamer, an anime fan, not a politics geek.

Then what makes you think it's your business to get in the way of those of us who are gamers and politically engaged?

It can have opinions, but

Interesting fact: it's been scientifically proven that in such a sentence everything before the "but" is irrelevant and will be ignored consciously and unconsciously.

to make them the focal point of gaming is anathema to its point of existing.

And there it is. No opinions in gaming. It's for mindless escapism and nothing else. It deserves all the freedom of the arts, but must never be treated as an art.

If the most standout thing about something game-related is not about games but about some outside-of-game object, then gaming is subservient and inferior to that other thing.

How does that follow? How is it inferior? What does that even mean?

If we wish gaming to be an end in and of itself and not merely a means to an end, as all who love gaming should, then we should try to focus more on what gaming is actually about and less on the opinions of those who like games or who pretend to do so because they get more ears for their BS that way.

So now you're telling me what I should think? That I'm not a real gamer if I do not possess the correct opinions? Who are you to decide what gaming is and isn't? Especially so when you've demonstrated little knowledge of basic artistic and critical theory? How is this not gatekeeping?

I always thought the gamer gate shit was funny because when it ever it comes out a youtuber is getting paid through a back door program like a Publisher giving them money to review or Play a game, the Gamer gate people are no where to be found, or even when that youtuber who ran a gambling website for CSGO but didn't announced he owned it.

Who? *Reads thread* GG is incapable of letting things go, aren't they?

Lufia Erim:

You missed my point. A shame. I said the way homosexuals were TREATED by society. What do you think happens if someone calls a helpline and says they have pedophilic urges? If they physically go out and tries to meet someone for their problem.

But i get it. Everyone thinks that way. It's a lot harder than people give it credit.

The help lines offer advice and support. They do not send a lynch mob to your home.

Smithnikov:

runic knight:

Doesn't take away what "they" did, they being what?

Death threats via helicopter tour, proclaiming me an enemy of my hobby I've defended, saying I get off on watching my wife have sex with other men....

So, the general welcome anyone gets when trying to make their presence known in 4chan, especially if they are opinionated? But ultimately, yeah,, it was just "said mean things". How monstrous. How telling of a political lean of a group of people there, and that stretched far beyond that singular site itself. Or perhaps it was after you started to condemn the entire group with dishonest guilt by association that you started to earn such a reply? Being so painfully obsessed with attacking the entire group of people through dishonest tactics and gross fallacy sure isn't going to earn you anything but scorn and mockery after all.

Ever think it was how you present yourself? Your history here sure shows it is easy to get annoyed with anything you try to argue when it is always grossly emotional appeals and fallacies, and in a site that doesn't protect its users from being insulted and hearing mean things, I am sure you would get a lot more vitriolic responses to that.

Such as the open lie about "distributing CP"

Mods are asleep, Post CP.

You act like I haven't been to /b/.

Same site that dogpiles that shit to force it to the bottom out of site/access when there are no mods on? That tracks down people who post it? Yeah, I am familiar. Curious, you are familiar with attempted raids of the site to make it look bad too, right? I mean it is 4chan, it doesn't need to be made to look bad, but still has attempts, often hilariously. You are reaching hard here, like saying the Escapist is nothing but spambots because you have some examples you can point to now, and be damned the complete lack of actual relevance to the whole. Disingenuous arguments you are making.

Hell, you are pointing to a fraction of a fraction as most of 4chan didn't care or didn't want to deal with gamergate anyways. You point to a smaller minority in order to manufacture this guilt by association than I would be in using the topic of this thread, Amir0x, to imply that all anti-GG were pedos. Do you hate gamergate so much as to so willingly take up THAT mantle just to justify your fallacy?

That you demonize an entire group to this day for it is telling.

If I'm a valid target for it, so are they.

Wow. Just, just wow.

Because you as one individual was being treated with mean words, very likely in response to his own tone, actions, and, as exemplified by this very statement, grossly selfish and irrational arguments, it justifies demonizing an entire group of people by association, most of which had no connection to things or you, regardless the truth of the matter, solely because some tangential associated with those who said mean things to you.

Makes me wonder if a man of Hispanic origin stole your parking spot on that day you wouldn't be blaming the mexicans instead now. I mean, same exact logic. Someone who "represents" an entire group of people, majority of which have no connection with, does something to wrong you, and you, you hold a grudge against all of the group they are associated with, actively spreading hate and bile about them, repeating lies that you have been corrected upon multiple times, and pretending that response is justifiable. For years.

Your argument is exactly the defense of all racism here. Congratulations, you are being intellectually bankrupt.

Do you not even get how horrible that is? You come off like a petty jilted lover blaming all of the religion they dated an individual of.

As for farcry 5? The game that got praised by a number of the far-left leaning folk, including the forums in the site Neogaf, as a far-right murder simulator until they corrected the misunderstanding of it, and then got lambasted by those who cheered it previously?

Yes, the game that GamerGate put out a petition to have the antagonists changed to Muslims, despite the cries that GG was for dev freedom to make the games they wanted.

Really? I don't recall that at all. I recall a joke of a petition tossed around and mocked by a lot of those I follow in gamergate, a petition that doesn't have a fraction of the numbers of gamegrate in support of it and as others have already told you directly in this very thread, was weak. See, it was just the last page, directly quoting you and everything.

LostGryphon:

Smithnikov:

So tell me; do you think it's the colored hair feminnazi tumblrina's saying things like this?

https://www.change.org/p/ubisoft-cancel-far-cry-5

...neither?

That's sorta the petition, similar to that Last of Us or Uncharted or whatever one, that was roundly derided by most folks, especially prominent members, of what once was GG.

Plus, it's been up for...how long? And only has 2k signatures?

Weak argument.

Gez, even rereading that thing, it reads like a troll petition. A good funny poe, but still a troll petition.

"We tell everybody the mainstream games press are a bunch of low talent cucks and then say they're masterminds behind secret hoaxes Here I am, Gamergate's greatest success and they want to say I'm some kind of IGN secret."

I mean read some of the thing, it is like a troll representation of gamergate through a funhouse mirror. It is like someone who hates gamergate tried to pretend to be it to trick others.

It is like you wrote the petition while pretending to be part of gamergate.

Lord knows it wouldn't be the first time someone manufactured a claim against gamergate, anyone else remember the "they are hacking me right now" stuff from the early days?

You're not just dishonestly pretending the entirety of the group did something just so you can continue your personal beef against it with the exact same reasoning as "see, that black person was arrested, they are all criminals!", now are you?

The chans were known to work with federal investigators into actual child porn (you know, not cartoons, real children) so that is an avenue I hadn't thought of before. Perhaps Neogaf were working with the fed as a means to track down folk like Amir0x as well?

Citation needed on that one.

Actually, no it isn't. As a wild guess, and one meant to keep the topic back on the Anti-GG mod who was found possessing child porn, I have no actual argument to be had here, so no citation either. This is like asking for a citation for going "hmm, wonder if the pedophile mod contacted and shared links with others on the site who demonstrated they shared stance in other ways". It is an idle though and one to discuss around, not a supported argument or accusation.

Also it is just funny to here demands for citation for someone who openly admits they are being grossly dishonest in their presentation of a group because of an irrational personal vendetta stemming from personally feeling insulted/rejected by people associated with gamergate.

Perhaps I should demand citation for your various claims of being insulted? I mean I already know you were, lord knows your attitude and tone around these parts alone has driven people do it here, I can't imagine how insufferable it would be in a site that isn't as restrictive. But no, it would be pointless, just as your demand here is equally pointless.

I mean look what you have done again? You've entirely derailed yet another thread to delve into your hate-boner about gamergate, injecting your obsession with it anywhere you can just for a new excuse to complain and demonize it.

You read mean words from some random assholes. Let it go man. Stop feeding that and justifying the fact they rejected you by showing how they were lucky to dodge the bullet of being on the same "side" as you.

runic knight:

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You wanna know what my actions were to warrant being labelled a cuckold Jew shill?

I made the mistake of responding to a rant about State of Decay, when I told someone how much they were reaching to try to make the game out to be a "SJW propaganda" piece. That's what landed me in the gas chamber queue line, buster. I got told that I'd be a dead Jew when Day of the Rotor came to pass. I was told that I got off on watching my wife have sex with "dindus" and "mudslimes".

I got labelled the enemy.

So yes, I have a hate boner. I have a justified one. Why am I not allowed to hate something that already hates me? Add in, as I pointed out, GG giving a pass to Rebel Media, Micheal Savage, Fox News and the NRA for their anti-gaming rhetoric, but going full steam ahead if a liberal source spouted it, and it was pretty transparent; this was about promoting a right wing agenda, not protecting games. The Conservatives were putting on dad jeans, and a lot of my hobby not only fell for it, they dived right in, and they were bound and determined to label anyone on the left as the Others. It's so bad it's spread to Tabletop gaming now, as White Wolf is getting pig shit flung at it from communitties over gender neutral language in some of it's books, enough to where WW publishing is now labeled an "SJW" company.

I'm bitter, yea. I have good reason to be.

And yea, I'm going to roll my eyes harder at people who made Pedobear a pop culture icon and demand for child porn on their board are suddenly cheering when a waste of skin on another board get's busted for child porn.

Oh, one last thing, I'm talking about 8chan more than 4chan.

Also by the way, don't know if you notice, but Escapist IS falling to the black magic spam bots. They haven't ceased.

Smithnikov:

runic knight:

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You wanna know what my actions were to warrant being labelled a cuckold Jew shill?

No, I don't. I really don't care anymore. They could have done far worse then said mean words to you. I've had far worse words said to me arguing with gamergate. You are not justified in your hatred of and attacks on people unrelated to your personal beef no matter how you try to do so any more than a racist is justified for calling all black people dangerous criminals because one time back in 73 a black person stole his gascan.

Feeding that hate by constantly doing THIS sort of crap only makes more people hate you and vindicates anyone who was a dick to you to start with as you showed they were entirely correct to label you sjw. I don't know the tone or manner in which you "responded" but if it was anything like the replies and tone you give around here, it is pretty clear you instigated as much as anyone else. And you know what, that is fine, the place is a hole and people bicker and fight like hell, so have at it there. But when you use that as poor excuse to constantly demonize, deride and damn countless people just to satisfy your bitterness, then you are in the wrong. You lose any and all sympathy when you start harming those uninvolved. and in the end you vindicate anyone who was a jerk to you because you show how right they were to reject you like that when this is how you handled it.

Now, can you let it go and at least stop usurping thread after thread just to satisfy your bitterness?

You've got a mod of a large gaming site found possessing kiddie porn. The implications and ramifications of that are worth discussing. How will it affect the site itself? How will it affect the users? How will if be reflected on gamers as a whole? Did any mods there know/help with it? Was the government involved in the site to catch them? There is a lot of avenues of discussion and relevance here.

Instead we get you once again railing against the devil gobbergrabbles in response to the fact that the mod being openly and vocally anti-gg gave you an avenue and excuse to do so.

Smithnikov:

That you demonize an entire group to this day for it is telling.

If I'm a valid target for it, so are they.

"That's a mentality you're supposed to grow out of before you're fucking six." Greg is the one who calls you a miserable failure of adulthood, not me.

Four pages for "Some guy on rival message board turns out to be kind of a piece of shit"? Is it a slow news week?

BuildsLegos:

Smithnikov:

That you demonize an entire group to this day for it is telling.

If I'm a valid target for it, so are they.

"That's a mentality you're supposed to grow out of before you're fucking six." Greg is the one who calls you a miserable failure of adulthood, not me.

They went all the way to death threats. Maturity doesn't register into it anymore.

shrekfan246:

Silentpony:
Makes you wonder what the real purpose of the anti-GG movement was...

No, it doesn't, really, given the fact that the vast majority of "the anti-GG movement" was just people who were sick and tired of "the pro-GG movement". How many people do you actually think know who this mod dude even is?

But hey, if you want to try insinuating stuff, how about we take a nice long look at Milo Yiabababolopolous again, eh? Jeez, there sure are a lot of alt-righters who are into some really kinky stuff, huh? I wonder if it's systemic... fuck, and that's ignoring how practically every talking head that Gators latched onto turned out to be some blowhard who thinks that women, gay people, and trans people don't deserve rights.

EDIT: For fuck's sake, why am I even bothering. Nope, I'm stepping out. Don't bother replying, I'm not going to respond to anything else in this thread.

Are you trying to villianize milo for being gay?

kilenem:
or even when that youtuber who ran a gambling website for CSGO but didn't announced he owned it.

Umm, guess you aren't aware that a GG subreddit had a whole bunch to say about that. Sorry, but in this case you are incorrect.

Smithnikov:

Firstly, I dont' think I did. Secondly, if I did, it must be okay because GG misrepresented me, right down to my bedroom habits.

2 wrongs do not make a right. Basic first intro to philosophy concept. Heck, i think a the prevalence of children's stories detailing this maxim would have reached more people by now.

TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT.

Smithnikov:

So yes, I have a hate boner. I have a justified one.

Nope, the actions are in no way justified. Your feelings are justified but your reactions and tone are not.
You hating being falsely labeled does not justify you falsely labeling others. Trying to justify doing horrible things because horrible things were done to you is not an ethically sound or psychologically healthy position.
I have been consistently harmed by members of particular groups. Me harming other members of those groups because of that would make me a terrible person.

Does me feeling genuine psychological harm from #killallwhitemen and #diecisscum mean I get to have a hate boner for other members of the groups that had members post this?

Smithnikov:

Definitely, which is what they wish to do. Unless being thrown from a helicopter doesn't count as "culling."

If you dislike being pigeon-holed, please refrain from doing it to others.

Someone that argues on the same side as you do here advocated culling people for disagreeing or having flags. Did you call out the person who advocated culling of people they find offensive?
Blaming GG for Farcry fiasco is disingenuous. It was obvious a troll group did that since many others have called that call for pic change what it was: blatant trolling. Trying to pin that on them is laughable and just shows obvious tribalism.

As far as your other "points," you being mis-represented does not justify you mis-reprsenting others as right wing when many are not. That being said, tu quoque is a fallacy. Anti-authoritarian liberals are not right wing. If you dislike being pigeon-holed, please refrain from doing it to others.

Sometimes (ie at least 50% of the time) it's clear the "advanced intelligence" of the human race severely works against us.

This tangled mess is one of those cases.

Casual Shinji:

Ezekiel:
I can't judge without seeing what he looked at. It might have been art for all I know. Child porn criteria are too broad and vague.

Heck, I got a naked 5-year old on home video. *psst* It's me.

*psst* That probably wouldn't save you.

Related bit of trivia, Marilyn Manson wanted to incorporate a nude photo of himself as a child into the album artwork of his first album, Portrait of an American Family. He was told he couldn't because it would be perceived as kiddie porn and his response was that that was the *point*, that this entirely innocent photo is only dirty in their minds and what does that say about them?

Unrelated bit of trivia, the album cover of Type O Negative's Slow Deep and Hard is technically pornographic -- it's actually a pornographic photo cropped very tightly around the penetration, then put through a green filter and some noise.

BuildsLegos:

Smithnikov:

BuildsLegos:
"That's a mentality you're supposed to grow out of before you're fucking six." Greg is the one who calls you a miserable failure of adulthood, not me.

They went all the way to death threats. Maturity doesn't register into it anymore.

Well that settles it, then: like a rape victim who attacks any man on-sight, you need to be put in a nifty safe-space we call a "padded room".

Because I refuse to support people who hate me?

FriendoftheFallen:

I have been consistently harmed by members of particular groups. Me harming other members of those groups because of that would make me a terrible person.

Have they actually expressed a desire to kill you?

If so, I would support you.

Does me feeling genuine psychological harm from #killallwhitemen and #diecisscum mean I get to have a hate boner for other members of the groups that had members post this?

Yes. Indeed, your sentiment is shared and lauded all over the internet.

Go on Reddit, go look up Physical Removal.

If you dislike being pigeon-holed, please refrain from doing it to others.

Too late for that.

Blaming GG for Farcry fiasco is disingenuous. It was obvious a troll group did that since many others have called that call for pic change what it was: blatant trolling. Trying to pin that on them is laughable and just shows obvious tribalism. [/qutoe]

Any proof it was trolling?

[quote] Anti-authoritarian liberals are not right wing. If you dislike being pigeon-holed, please refrain from doing it to others.

Again, the die is cast, the threats were made. They already put an X through my picture, so I ain't going to go break bread with them anymore.

Don't tell me to eat shit and like it.

Smithnikov:

BuildsLegos:

Smithnikov:
They went all the way to death threats. Maturity doesn't register into it anymore.

Well that settles it, then: like a rape victim who attacks any man on-sight, you need to be put in a nifty safe-space we call a "padded room".

Because I refuse to support people who hate me?

No, because you've forsaken the concept of individuality and shown why tribalism should be beneath anyone with Internet access. The moment you reject the difference between guilty and innocent just because they share similarities is the moment you become either worthless or dangerous to civilized society. Besides, it's doubtful that those who wronged you were anything more than idiotic trolls who get their sick jollies from making other people unhappy; congratulations, you handed them victory on a silver-platter.

Smithnikov:

FriendoftheFallen:

I have been consistently harmed by members of particular groups. Me harming other members of those groups because of that would make me a terrible person.

Have they actually expressed a desire to kill you?

If so, I would support you.

They have. I have had african american men threaten me with violence and death for dating their african american neighbour. That does not mean I have any right to dislike any other member of that group just because her neighbours were racist bigot idiots.

Is #killallmen or #diecisscum sufficient desire to kill?

Smithnikov:

Does me feeling genuine psychological harm from #killallwhitemen and #diecisscum mean I get to have a hate boner for other members of the groups that had members post this?

Yes. Indeed, your sentiment is shared and lauded all over the internet.

Go on Reddit, go look up Physical Removal.

If you dislike being pigeon-holed, please refrain from doing it to others.

Too late for that.

Blaming GG for Farcry fiasco is disingenuous. It was obvious a troll group did that since many others have called that call for pic change what it was: blatant trolling. Trying to pin that on them is laughable and just shows obvious tribalism. [/qutoe]

Any proof it was trolling?

[quote] Anti-authoritarian liberals are not right wing. If you dislike being pigeon-holed, please refrain from doing it to others.

Again, the die is cast, the threats were made. They already put an X through my picture, so I ain't going to go break bread with them anymore.

Don't tell me to eat shit and like it.

I never told you to. I think your anger is misplaced and your response further aggravates things. Stop trying to portray everyone who disagrees as all doing the things you hate. If you dislike being pigeon-holed, don't pigeon-hole either.

2 wrongs do not make a right.

Sorry people were dicks to you. Stop being a dick to me.

https://archive.is/YacaX#selection-7021.0-7021.453

Meanwhile Neogaf cries about Japanese Character designs again.

gyrobot:
https://archive.is/YacaX#selection-7021.0-7021.453

Meanwhile Neogaf cries about Japanese Character designs again.

Oh noooooo, someone has an opinion on something.

McMarbles:

gyrobot:
https://archive.is/YacaX#selection-7021.0-7021.453

Meanwhile Neogaf cries about Japanese Character designs again.

Oh noooooo, someone has an opinion on something.

It shows how sexually repressed they are McMarbles. You can get banned if you even find them remotely attractive.

You would be a good fit at Gaf though.

DudeistBelieve:
Are you trying to villianize milo for being gay?

At this point, I have to believe you're doing this on purpose. Or did you miss the kerfuffle about Milo handwaving away pedophilia and child abuse because it happened to him and it totes wasn't a big deal, so it shouldn't be a big deal to other people?

EDIT: for crying out loud why did I get dragged back into this thread. Stop. Just stop. Whatever angry post you're already thinking about typing out in response to me, just stop. Take a deep breath. Step away from the computer. And let it go.

gyrobot:
It shows how sexually repressed they are McMarbles. You can get banned if you even find them remotely attractive.

You would be a good fit at Gaf though.

How do you relate finding some honestly bad character designs bad with being sexual repressed? I am on a whole maybe too sexually.. lets just say permissive, but that doesn't make me think cutting random holes in clothing is good design.

If fact I take a lot of ummm bridge with defending these kind of poor designs with the argument that they are sexy. They often just aren't. (I am thinking maybe we should have a talk about sexy in games, but it's a thorny issue. I am pondering starting a thread about the thorns.)

nomotog:

gyrobot:
It shows how sexually repressed they are McMarbles. You can get banned if you even find them remotely attractive.

You would be a good fit at Gaf though.

How do you relate finding some honestly bad character designs bad with being sexual repressed? I am on a whole maybe too sexually.. lets just say permissive, but that doesn't make me think cutting random holes in clothing is good design.

By virtue of most of, if not all the designs being sexy, and this being a common trait in neogaf threads like that?

gyrobot:
It shows how sexually repressed they are McMarbles. You can get banned if you even find them remotely attractive.

You would be a good fit at Gaf though.

generally it's considered good forum etiquette to quote the people you are responding to so they get a notification, constantly not quoting people while directly talking to them comes off like you are trying to purposely hide your response so you can get the last word in if the person doesn't come back to the thread for a couple days. I don't know why you do it, but you aren't going to get a lot of responses if the people you respond to don't know you did unless they drift back in to the thread.

As for the actual post it's kind of ridiculous to give Neogaf shit for this coming from the guy that constantly posts about how every western character for like the last decade is ugly. You constantly slag off western designs for dubious reasons sometimes boiling down to just hiding behind 4Chan as your only justification when at best they are are often just as bad as neogaf.

Also finding a design stupid indicates almost nothing about sexual repression, Quiet is beautiful and sexually attractive to a lot of straight men (and likely some gay women) I would be extremely attracted to such a person in real life, her design is still fucking stupid within the game though. Camilla is hot, her boob job armor is ridiculous looking like a beautiful model wearing a dildo dress, a real life model would still look dumb in her outfit,the characters sexiness has little to do with the bad design.

Sexual repression usually involves feeling guilt or shame in regards to sexual feelings, thinking a fictional character looks stupid or poorly designed is not an automatic signal that they are guilty or ashamed of attraction to said character, even for people that find the entire anime aesthetic unattractive or stupid looking it is not necessarily a sign of sexual repression. Thinking that anyone that dislikes such designs must be attracted to said characters and ashamed of it is a very painful stretch in logic, it comes off like you are projecting your own feelings on to other people.

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