Saw Hands-On

Saw Hands-On

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Saw's getting the game adaptation treatment by the house that brought us Silent Hill, but does the game live up to its horror game peers or the movies themselves?

It's called the Reverse Bear Trap. From the name you can imagine the general idea, but maybe not how it works exactly. That's simple, though: it goes in your mouth, a massive steel machine with two parts clamped to your upper and lower jaw. There's a beeping red light and a timer, and if you don't figure out how to get out, well, you know why it's called the reverse bear trap? Bear traps close shut - this bad boy pops open.

"Open wide," I said to myself as I failed to figure out how to get out of the trap for the fifth time in the night. This is how Saw, Konami's game adaptation of the ridiculously popular horror movie franchise, begins. And as much as I loved hearing protagonist Detective David Tapp get his jaw ripped open off-screen, I wanted to get to the rest of the demo.

Because while Saw the movies are all about the gruesome traps that the murderer Jigsaw comes up with to make his victims really think about how they're living their lives, Saw the game is about a little bit more. It's not an hours-long succession of trap-escape minigames, but something of a third-person survival-horror game along the lines of fellow Konami scare-fest Silent Hill or Sega and Monolith's Condemned.

Saw, which is set between the first two films, takes place in an asylum controlled by the psychotic Jigsaw. Tapp will explore the asylum chasing down Jigsaw, and along the way encounter other victims of that psycho's murderous imagination: people who've suffered at his hands and gone a little batty, who want to kill you either because you may hold the key to their salvation, or just because they're all nuts.

Though we didn't get a look at any combat, Konami says that it's of the "realistic," Silent Hill variety. You're not going to be "holding two AK-47s" in Saw, they told me. Instead, you'll be solving puzzles and doing minigames that are alternately hackneyed (move the electrical breakers to restore power to a fence!) or horribly gross in true Saw fashion (stick your hand into a toilet full of syringes to get a key).

Not that there aren't plenty of traps casually placed in all corners. At one point, I was strolling through a door rigged with a shotgun set to fire when I passed through - thankfully reflexes were all that was necessary to get past this by finishing an easy quick-time event.

Not so with the Reverse Bear Trap. Yes, I did get past it. Here was the trick: the game displays an analog stick icon while Tapp's struggling to get out, which I assumed meant all I had to do was rotate the stick. What I didn't notice was that the flashing red light on the backside of the thing was supposed to be a visual parallel to the Circle button, and when it blinked, I had to press Circle. Diabolical and clever, just like Jigsaw would have it, but how was I supposed to know that?

Saw does seem true to the spirit of its source material, but how it'll make the transition from the structure of the films to one of a game remains to be seen. Fans of the movies should definitely keep an eye on it, though, as it promises to flesh out the Saw mythos by explaining Jigsaw's origin and telling what happened to the characters of the first movie after its ending.

Look for Saw this Halloween on PC, PS3 and 360, doubtless along with Saw 15, or whatever sequel they're on at this point.

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This should be fun.
I loved the movies.

Well It will certainly be better then "Saw Hands Off". Ha Ha Ha.. I'm so witty.

Dude, you're out of the loop, the next Saw movie is going to be Saw 63.5492.

Sounds like they're not knocking out a generic movie adaptation, and for that, they should be applauded, lets just hope it doesn't up a series of QTEs linked with cut scenes is all.

I'm quite the fan of the Saw movies, I feel they're above the likes of Hostel, so I'll be following the path of the game with interest.

This actually seems like an intriguing movie-to-game adaptation. I'll withhold my judgement until we know more about the game, but so far it doesn't sound like something I'd want to play - which is a good thing ;)

RougeWaveform:
Well It will certainly be better then "Saw Hands Off". Ha Ha Ha.. I'm so witty.

And so it begins, again.

Gaming as we know it, has finally hit rock bottom. Take the worst aspects of GuroChan, mix in the ability to participate in the depravity, and build this all around a game that is 98% quick-time events.

Seriously, I never SAW the attraction to that movie series.
/bad_pun

I will be more likely to play the game than watch the movies, ever.

I find the whole concept to be pretty bad.

I don't think this will work because people will not have any trouble with sticking their hands in a toilet full of needles in game because they themselves aren't getting hurt, which was half of the films, the people not wanting to get hurt. Furthermore, say the reverse bear trap, if you screw up... just hit reset - there's not fear.

Will i be murdered if I say QTE's aren't that bad? This game looks totally awesome :D

The thoughts of putting my hand into a toilet full of needles in a game doesn't creep me out where as the needle scene in the 2nd movie did. In fact I don't think I've seen a scene in a game where I've been creeped out by someone in a painful situation. Sure I've been creeped out by atmosphere and pure startle scares but never by pain driven scares. I think that video games are simply still too unrealistic to relate to a character on that strongly of a level to feel the pain they do. I can't see this game delivering the same type of pain relevent shock moments as the films, but who knows, maybe it'll prove me wrong.

Also, is it just me or have the Saw sequels just gotten worse with each film? Seems like the first one was amazing, second one really good, third okay... etc.

My curiousity will end up getting the better of me, just as well because of the fact that this game is being made by the same house that birthed Silent Hill and Metal Gear. It has a fair amount of potential...

I'm taking early bets on how many reviews of the Saw game include the phrase "I want to play a little game." My bet? All of them.

i never liked saw anyway so this sounds good

Damnit, so even this game may be good? Where have all the truly terrible games gone?

And why'd they use a toilet instead of using the bear-pit full of used needles from the second? Complete with a solution where you toss in the ex-junkie girl because you can overpower her, showing mans savage nature in the face of his own mortality, ultimately reching the point where a character slices open his own neck to try and get the key to the vaccine cabinet?

I'm one of the freaks who thinks there was a subtle point to the first movies. From three on, not so much though.

Khell_Sennet:
Gaming as we know it, has finally hit rock bottom. Take the worst aspects of GuroChan, mix in the ability to participate in the depravity, and build this all around a game that is 98% quick-time events.

man, if you seriously think this is the worst of GuroChan, you seriously underestimate the depravity of the human mind. There's stuff out there that would make grown men scream, stuff that confirms the existence of the dark gods of horror.

Interesting. It has some potential.

Oh, this game seems right up my alley...

Keane Ng:
Saw does seem true to the spirit of its source material, but how it'll make the transition from the structure of the films to one of a game remains to be seen.

No, I think it is pretty obvious how this game is going to turn out as a "Oh hey that movie was popular let's make a game" tie-in... I will be really amazed if it is any good.

Actually, with Saw it's hands-off.

Keane Ng:

RougeWaveform:
Well It will certainly be better then "Saw Hands Off". Ha Ha Ha.. I'm so witty.

And so it begins, again.

I forSAW all of this.

Khell_Sennet:
Gaming as we know it, has finally hit rock bottom. Take the worst aspects of GuroChan, mix in the ability to participate in the depravity, and build this all around a game that is 98% quick-time events.

Seriously, I never SAW the attraction to that movie series.
/bad_pun

It being all quick time events is ver unlikey because the designers can't be that stupid

Indigo_Dingo:
Damnit, so even this game may be good? Where have all the truly terrible games gone?

Oh, in previews they always sound good.

KDR_11k:

Indigo_Dingo:
Damnit, so even this game may be good? Where have all the truly terrible games gone?

Oh, in previews they always sound good.

True, even Sonic Unleashed sounded good. that being said, it is Konami.

Indigo_Dingo:

KDR_11k:

Indigo_Dingo:
Damnit, so even this game may be good? Where have all the truly terrible games gone?

Oh, in previews they always sound good.

True, even Sonic Unleashed sounded good. that being said, it is Konami.

People where optimistic? About a post-Sonic&Knuckles Sonic game?! Proof Sonic team have the lord of darkness of staff.

Doug:

Indigo_Dingo:

KDR_11k:

Indigo_Dingo:
Damnit, so even this game may be good? Where have all the truly terrible games gone?

Oh, in previews they always sound good.

True, even Sonic Unleashed sounded good. that being said, it is Konami.

People where optimistic? About a post-Sonic&Knuckles Sonic game?! Proof Sonic team have the lord of darkness of staff.

Check back that far, you'll see people being cautiously optimistic that this is the Sonic game thats going to be the good one, and people saying the other people are idiots. In fact, I think the Game Damage pilt showcases this. We just really want Sonic to be good again.

Indigo_Dingo:

Doug:

Indigo_Dingo:

KDR_11k:

Indigo_Dingo:
Damnit, so even this game may be good? Where have all the truly terrible games gone?

Oh, in previews they always sound good.

True, even Sonic Unleashed sounded good. that being said, it is Konami.

People where optimistic? About a post-Sonic&Knuckles Sonic game?! Proof Sonic team have the lord of darkness of staff.

Check back that far, you'll see people being cautiously optimistic that this is the Sonic game thats going to be the good one, and people saying the other people are idiots. In fact, I think the Game Damage pilt showcases this. We just really want Sonic to be good again.

Ah, no-no, I'd like to see Sonic back on form too - I was a nut for the guy growing up, even collected the comic over here that was always alittle too daff really, I watched the enjoyable SatAM series, and the not so enjoyable other series. I just know, from playing a few of the most recent dropping from the sega Sonic-game-crapper, and know how far he's gone.

I do wish he'd return, but I honestly don't think that Team Sonic are capable of that as they stand now. If your interested, movie Bob did outline a way to possibly save Sonic (and he freely admits that it might not even be the best way and certainly not the only way).

How Sonic got where he is now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hik-TeGQIn0
How he might get saved: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YDrVRqmrLY

the_tramp:
I don't think this will work because people will not have any trouble with sticking their hands in a toilet full of needles in game because they themselves aren't getting hurt, which was half of the films, the people not wanting to get hurt. Furthermore, say the reverse bear trap, if you screw up... just hit reset - there's not fear.

What about the fear of having to redo the same bloody thing over and over, failing for the 80th time?

Doug:

Indigo_Dingo:

Doug:

Indigo_Dingo:

KDR_11k:

Indigo_Dingo:
Damnit, so even this game may be good? Where have all the truly terrible games gone?

Oh, in previews they always sound good.

True, even Sonic Unleashed sounded good. that being said, it is Konami.

People where optimistic? About a post-Sonic&Knuckles Sonic game?! Proof Sonic team have the lord of darkness of staff.

Check back that far, you'll see people being cautiously optimistic that this is the Sonic game thats going to be the good one, and people saying the other people are idiots. In fact, I think the Game Damage pilt showcases this. We just really want Sonic to be good again.

Ah, no-no, I'd like to see Sonic back on form too - I was a nut for the guy growing up, even collected the comic over here that was always alittle too daff really, I watched the enjoyable SatAM series, and the not so enjoyable other series. I just know, from playing a few of the most recent dropping from the sega Sonic-game-crapper, and know how far he's gone.

I do wish he'd return, but I honestly don't think that Team Sonic are capable of that as they stand now. If your interested, movie Bob did outline a way to possibly save Sonic (and he freely admits that it might not even be the best way and certainly not the only way).

How Sonic got where he is now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hik-TeGQIn0
How he might get saved: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YDrVRqmrLY

I really think thats a rather superficial look. The plot in and of itself is not the problem, nor is Sonic's "coolness". Kratos was designed to be the most brutally badass character on the face of the planet, has that stopped him being a great character? Sackboy is made of weaponised cute, is he any weaker for it? Hell, Mario only came about because Nintendo couldn't draw faces, so just put black pixels in to distinguish his face. Game characters hardly ever have a solid beginning, but they can still move on to greatness.

The problem mainly comes from a lack of confidence in the product. Team Sonic can't believe that anyone wants a Sonic game with pure speed, so keep throwing in gimmicks - if you look at all their entries, you'll see they seem to center on speed plus something else that always makes it worse - RPG, Hack and Slash, whatever the hell was wrong with Black Knight. Fix the camera, and the games make themselves. There is no trick to convincing people to the appeal of going very very fast - hell, there's a very successful genre that centers in just that.

Failing that, release a pack on LittleBigPlkanet, and let Sonic go to gaming Valhalla.

Indigo_Dingo:

Doug:

Indigo_Dingo:

Doug:

Indigo_Dingo:

KDR_11k:

Indigo_Dingo:
Damnit, so even this game may be good? Where have all the truly terrible games gone?

Oh, in previews they always sound good.

True, even Sonic Unleashed sounded good. that being said, it is Konami.

People where optimistic? About a post-Sonic&Knuckles Sonic game?! Proof Sonic team have the lord of darkness of staff.

Check back that far, you'll see people being cautiously optimistic that this is the Sonic game thats going to be the good one, and people saying the other people are idiots. In fact, I think the Game Damage pilt showcases this. We just really want Sonic to be good again.

Ah, no-no, I'd like to see Sonic back on form too - I was a nut for the guy growing up, even collected the comic over here that was always alittle too daff really, I watched the enjoyable SatAM series, and the not so enjoyable other series. I just know, from playing a few of the most recent dropping from the sega Sonic-game-crapper, and know how far he's gone.

I do wish he'd return, but I honestly don't think that Team Sonic are capable of that as they stand now. If your interested, movie Bob did outline a way to possibly save Sonic (and he freely admits that it might not even be the best way and certainly not the only way).

How Sonic got where he is now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hik-TeGQIn0
How he might get saved: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YDrVRqmrLY

I really think thats a rather superficial look. The plot in and of itself is not the problem, nor is Sonic's "coolness". Kratos was designed to be the most brutally badass character on the face of the planet, has that stopped him being a great character? Sackboy is made of weaponised cute, is he any weaker for it? Hell, Mario only came about because Nintendo couldn't draw faces, so just put black pixels in to distinguish his face. Game characters hardly ever have a solid beginning, but they can still move on to greatness.

The problem mainly comes from a lack of confidence in the product. Team Sonic can't believe that anyone wants a Sonic game with pure speed, so keep throwing in gimmicks - if you look at all their entries, you'll see they seem to center on speed plus something else that always makes it worse - RPG, Hack and Slash, whatever the hell was wrong with Black Knight. Fix the camera, and the games make themselves. There is no trick to convincing people to the appeal of going very very fast - hell, there's a very successful genre that centers in just that.

Failing that, release a pack on LittleBigPlkanet, and let Sonic go to gaming Valhalla.

Kratos is an unlikable fuck. Sackboy is cute, I'll grant you. What Sonic is is 1990's cool. NOT modern cool. He was as big as Mario once. But is he cool anymore? Hell no. Mario came from a twisted Japanese mind, so I'm not even going to try and explain why a plumber is fighting ancient Japanese demons (the Koopa's).

As for the plot, you REALLY think its ok that their are 3 or 4 or more different versions of Sonic's plot that they've never bothered to clean the hell up? But also, you don't address his other points - those where only 2 of them.

This thread has officially morph form Saw to Sonic. EPIC!

 

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