Rape Games Banned in Japan

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....Ok. This is so fucking retarded, I can't even begin to list the ways, so here's a list of horrible atrocities frequently done in video games.

Gencoide(both human and non)
Mass Murder
Suicide Bombing
Killing American Soldiers as Terrorists(CoD and the like)
Gunplay
Torture
Death Games(See "Saw The Game")
Use of explosives
Arson
Ripping people to gorey bits, spraying blood all over

....and RAPE is what they're concerned about?! I like how they specifically said "women and girls" too. Thanks for making the male population feel like worthless shit.....AGAIN. Nowadays, everybody seems to be concerned about women and non-whites. Where's the love for male whiteys? D: In my opinion, I think society has grown too concerned about offending people. There's always "oh this guy called me a nigger" or "this guy discriminated against cuz I'm a girl" or some other bullshit. Get the fuck over it.

If somebody wants to play a game like this, go ahead! It'll keep those lil' fuckers off our streets. It was like this with Resident Evil 5, it was like this with GTA, it was like this with EVERY GAME IN THE 90'S THAT FEATURED WOMEN IN VIOLENT SITUATIONS. Get. The fuck. Over it. Men, women and people of all races are built exactly the same and function exactly the same. Sure women might give birth and you can SAY they're weaker but they can't get pregnant without sticking a dick in themselves and they can always hit the weights for some extra muscle. So in other words, we're all the same. Get it through your god damn heads.

Now, without that little subject out of the way, let's move onto the game itself. Hmm. Well, I'm raping a girl. Ok. That's pretty sick but there's lots of worse games out there. Hell, Team Fortress 2 is worse than this. Stabbing, blowing off someones head as a sniper, bloody limbs flying off, burning people to death, bludgeonings, etc. Not to mention there's a ton of male rape games in Japan as well so females aren't the only ones being victimized. What's this? "Well, women are weaker and smaller than men." Well that's kinda of societies fault for forcing them to play the role of "sweet, innocent and harmless" for so many years. Not to mention that there are weaker and smaller men than other women as well. Hell, most of my male friends are weaker and smaller than me to. So, if a woman, smaller and weaker than I, assaulted me and, in a different situation, one of my male friends who is also weaker and smaller, who goes to jail in each case? In male vs. male, my friend would even if I defended myself. In male vs. female, I would go to jail if I even so much as scratched her. Why? Everybody say it with me now. "Because it was a girl."

You know, I've had girls give me shit in the past, trying to pick fights with me. As soon as I started pushing back, they ALWAYS say "You can't hit a girl!" I always tell them "Whatever happened to equality among sexes?" Nobody can EVER answer my question. Why? Everybody is so obsessed with pleasing everyone that they forget that it's completely impossible to. "Well we believe we shouldn't promote such behavior." You're not promoting it! Nobody ever is! If somebody makes a game, they do it to appeal to their target audience. Teenagers typically like things that give them a sense of power and control, so you would make violent video games. For sports fans, you make sports games. For kids, you make things with Tom and Jerry style adventures. For perverts, PORN GAMES.

Now, there's a variety of genres. Incest, pedophilia, bondage, scat, gay, straight, teen, mature, fat and even rape. That's just to name a few. There's been numerous rape games over the years, but why is this ONE game targeted? Let's hear it folks because of the....? WOMEN! Yes, you're catching on! Typically, most countries don't really get into the whole porn game business. Japan here knows, or is at least willing to exploit the fact, that there's NUMEROUS perverts out there willing to try this stuff out in real life and that if they had an outlet, they'd do it. What better outlet than video games? Now you can vent all of those desires into something that DOESN'T emotionally and physically scar people! Isn't that grand? :D

I can guarantee nobody would have given a flying fuck if it had been a game where you rape males. Everybody is too focused on protecting the so called "helpless" female population that we've been all but forgotten about....unless you're black....or asian....or arabic.....fuck it, pretty much any race but white people. Honestly, can you name ONE case of racial discrimination where the victim was white and somebody got offended, besides the white person, and made this huge scene that makes it on the news or some shit? You know what? Narrow it down to white males because somebody can just say "oh it's cuz it was a chick. It's not racism. :D" even though it's just as wrong regardless of gender. Well? Nothing? Thought so.

Look, I'm not saying white people deserve to be treated better or whatever it is you're thinking. My point is that you can't please everybody all the time and that it's better to just leave things like this alone instead of making a big scene if nobody is getting hurt. Hell, I was offended that they specifically stated "rape against women and girls" instead of just rape in general! There's proof right there! Thanks to the internet, I could let my opinion be heard instead of bottling it up inside until I find someone to lash out at. Sometimes I wanna beat the shit out of people too but I don't. Why? I know I can just go home and frag some noobs. Outlets people. They work.

The moral of the story? People are being whiney ass bitches and they need to get on with their lives.

TZer0:

sirdanrhodes:
I don't know what sickens me more, the fact this game exists, or the fact that I actually played it... I'd like to point out, this was at a friends machine, he said "HAY, WATCH THIS" and it disgusted me.

Ow. I wonder if there was an awkward silence afterwards.

Yeah, those games exist, Japan = bizarre.

No, I just went home 5 minutes after.

In related news, Japan experiences a rise in rape cases.

nova18:
Its odd though, Im guessing that most of us spend a lot of time playing "murder simulators" and we are dead against people trying to ban those, because they dont offend us.

Wheras a rape game offends us so we agree to it being banned.

Good news though.

Japan's culture is completely different to our own. There are huge shops in Japan that [b]only[/i] sell hentai. They just don't find those things socially unacceptable. It's good to know that they're banned though...sex games and rape games are two very different things.

But now they'll take what they've learned onto the streets! Crazy japanese people always confuse the hell out of me. What's your obsession with children? how is this acceptable? How is "grab-ass" acceptable on the train stations? Why are you people SO racist towards whites?What's with the gameshows?Crazy food? Crazy useless inventions? What's more, despite all this, they censor genitalia!

CabooseKill400:
oh damn and were will i get all my raping needs now?

Japanese subways?

sirdanrhodes:

TZer0:

sirdanrhodes:
I don't know what sickens me more, the fact this game exists, or the fact that I actually played it... I'd like to point out, this was at a friends machine, he said "HAY, WATCH THIS" and it disgusted me.

Ow. I wonder if there was an awkward silence afterwards.

Yeah, those games exist, Japan = bizarre.

No, I just went home 5 minutes after.

Wise move. I mean, "hey, do you want to come over to my house and play porn?" (not that I would use that, as I don't have any) isn't the best way to get or keep a friend. And it is even worse when someone doesn't even ask, just opens the porn and shows it to you.. like in your case!.

JESUS, Andy, what kind of headline was THAT? Please don't say "Rape Games Banned in Japan" in the headline when the article effectively states that they're NOT.

I'm all for freedom of expression and whatever rights we have but...that is a sick game.

I BET U ALL THAT THE NO. OF RAPES WILL INCREASE NOW!!!!

edit: beaten to it

SBoggart:
1) Rape isn't just a sex crime against women. Men get raped, too. I find it shocking that some people can't understand this.

2) It's not real rape (thus, it's a victimless crime), and that's censorship. I'm not condoning rape, but how is that any of the government's business?

eh rape is deffined as " forced penetration of the vagina "

because they havnt updated the law book in so long it still has a law written in the time where people thought homosexual didnt exist

they can still get charged for it now they just havnt bothered updating it

i just thought it was a rather intresting and peculiar fact i picked up from a lawyer .... ( i live in scotland so it obviously depends on where you live if this is true )

also i must add that this was said to me about a year ago so it may have changed now...

BUT STILL!!haha

Surprise surprise.

Well the fact you can find flash 'Rape simulators' on the internet with out trying (normaly coming across them acidentaly), I'm not surpirsed there is actualy a retail 'Rape simulator' out there. I'm glad its been banned, but could have of been the only thing preventing the people that play them from actualy raping someone.

Too many psycopaths have been having a release with these games and will have to find another source, The Streets.

Good God What Have We DONE!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

Just kidding, I read about some rape simulator on Gamesradar ages ago, it was featured on some top 7 most evil games or something, lmao.

For all the people saying "it's an outlet for people who want to rape", I can see it as a somewhat valid point.

However, I've read about this game before and every time you rape one of the women involved in the game there is a chance she will become pregnant. If you don't have the time, money, or whatever you are required by the game to have to forced her to abort the child, then you lose the game.

Now, I'm all for aborting a foetus that was spawned through rape, but really now, is that appropriate anywhere? Yes, I know, different culture, different standards, but can anyone seriously say with a straight face that they brought a copy of GTA to stop themselves from murdering random people, stealing cars, picking up prostitutes, and going on drug-raids? The excuse 'it stops me from raping people' is pretty bullshitty for 99% of people in the world; and I doubt many companies would make games for the 1% borderline rapists, rather than to sell a game which celebrates women's vulnerability.

Then again, I have strong opinions on the subject of rape. If people feel this is clouding rational judgement, please feel free to correct anything that I've said that just sounds stupid.

neoman10:
wha..? these games exist?

You been living under a rock buddy?

nova18:
Its odd though, Im guessing that most of us spend a lot of time playing "murder simulators" and we are dead against people trying to ban those, because they dont offend us.

Wheras a rape game offends us so we agree to it being banned.

Good news though.

I think I shall invoke the rule of context. Very few games that get called up as 'murder simulators' actually focus on murder as the only and primary goal (I'm fairly sure Manhunt is 1 of the few expections). Add to that, the blood and gore is rarely in any detail - even having an arm blown off rarely give more than a cloud of red. Further, the player's goal isn't to torture you're enemy to death.

Rape, however, is pure torture. In fact, I see rape as worse in most cases than murder. Why? Typical murder is over in a flash, whereas rape is a continous horror that can extend over the rest of the victim's life.

Well just leave it up to white people to try and screw something up in another country. When you look at something like this its easy to understand why white people are always on the wrong end of the racist claims. I've never seen a problem with the rape genre, hell it probably keeps potential rapists off the street (so long as their PC works). However I would put good money on the people who originally objected to it were born before the 1950s or were those people who just disagree with anything that the "Bible" says is "wrong". I may be a fan of the genre, but then again I can also distinguish reality from fantasy, unlike a large number of people I know/associate with.

I don't see who would buy these games anyway but people that do why not let them? Why is rape worse than war? How come war veterans haven't got war games banned yet some stupid equality law (no matter what those retards say genders are completly equal now) can get games banned?

Doug:

nova18:
Its odd though, Im guessing that most of us spend a lot of time playing "murder simulators" and we are dead against people trying to ban those, because they dont offend us.

Wheras a rape game offends us so we agree to it being banned.

Good news though.

I think I shall invoke the rule of context. Very few games that get called up as 'murder simulators' actually focus on murder as the only and primary goal (I'm fairly sure Manhunt is 1 of the few expections). Add to that, the blood and gore is rarely in any detail - even having an arm blown off rarely give more than a cloud of red. Further, the player's goal isn't to torture you're enemy to death.

Rape, however, is pure torture. In fact, I see rape as worse in most cases than murder. Why? Typical murder is over in a flash, whereas rape is a continous horror that can extend over the rest of the victim's life.

Typical murder involves death. The end of everything for you. Nothing thats happened in your life matters once that happens. If you really think murder is not as bad as rape just kill yourself once youve been raped and the result is exactly the same.

mspencer82:

I can't believe you're trying to justify a rape game by saying "well there are things just as bad out there". First of all, murder and kill or be killed situations are different. Self defense is not murder, any idiot knows that. Plowing someone over with a car (Grand Theft Auto), now that's a different story.

Actually, psychologically, [url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_153/4960-The-Anatomy-of-Violence[/url] the effect is the same. It's teaching you to shoot real people dead. [/url]

[quote="mspencer82" post="7.115936.2155684"]However, there is and never will be a justifiable reason to rape someone.

If I don't like it I shouldn't buy it? What the hell kind of logic is that? If I don't like murder should I just not kill anyone and say it's okay for everyone else because that's just what they're into? What school did you go to? I'd really like to see it shut down if they're turning around people that think rape is acceptable as long as it's simulated.

Anyone buying this game is a sick and twisted individual, and right now I'm thinking the same thing about the people who condone it.

What the hell kind of logic is THAT? Someone's buying a rape game ergo they're raping someone? By that logic I'm some sort of genocidal maniac with all the people, cities and even planets I've destroyed based on the titles I've purchased...

Is simulated rape acceptable? Is simulated murder acceptable? YEEEEEEEEEEEES. Keyword: SIMULATED. Meaning, NOT REAL.

Remember something like 10-15 years ago, how ignorant people, much like you, went apeshit insane because "DOOM TURNED KIDS INTO KILLARS!!!"? Remember how they were so fantastically wrong? Notice how everyone with a semblance of an education today looks back, shakes their head and goes "...idiots" ? It's the same thing for those of us who actually use more than two braincells to understand there's a crucial difference between "real" and "fake", looking at people like you flailing your arms around, shouting and drooling like monkeys on meth trying to force people to live according to your arbitrary standards because your ego is too fragile to consider maybe other people like things you don't, and we're "facepalming" and going "not this shit again...".

AngloDoom:
For all the people saying "it's an outlet for people who want to rape", I can see it as a somewhat valid point.

However, I've read about this game before and every time you rape one of the women involved in the game there is a chance she will become pregnant. If you don't have the time, money, or whatever you are required by the game to have to forced her to abort the child, then you lose the game.

Now, I'm all for aborting a foetus that was spawned through rape, but really now, is that appropriate anywhere? Yes, I know, different culture, different standards, but can anyone seriously say with a straight face that they brought a copy of GTA to stop themselves from murdering random people, stealing cars, picking up prostitutes, and going on drug-raids? The excuse 'it stops me from raping people' is pretty bullshitty for 99% of people in the world; and I doubt many companies would make games for the 1% borderline rapists, rather than to sell a game which celebrates women's vulnerability.

Then again, I have strong opinions on the subject of rape. If people feel this is clouding rational judgement, please feel free to correct anything that I've said that just sounds stupid.

Same here, I can sortof see the 'its an outlet for rape urges' argument, but I think thats like putting a plaster over a blown off leg - if they have the urge to rape in the first place, its pretty likely they need a hell of alot more help than that... or chemical castration.

To be frank, I think that the harm is does is, as you say, 'celebrate women's vulernability', but also it threatens to normalize rape to some degree.

I'd be interested to see the estimated number of rapes per 1000 people in Japan vs other nations (reported rapes don't really count as its estimated that over 90% of rapes go unreported even in western nations). Especially Holland, where prostitution is legal.

AngloDoom:
For all the people saying "it's an outlet for people who want to rape", I can see it as a somewhat valid point.

However, I've read about this game before and every time you rape one of the women involved in the game there is a chance she will become pregnant. If you don't have the time, money, or whatever you are required by the game to have to forced her to abort the child, then you lose the game.

Now, I'm all for aborting a foetus that was spawned through rape, but really now, is that appropriate anywhere? Yes, I know, different culture, different standards, but can anyone seriously say with a straight face that they brought a copy of GTA to stop themselves from murdering random people, stealing cars, picking up prostitutes, and going on drug-raids? The excuse 'it stops me from raping people' is pretty bullshitty for 99% of people in the world; and I doubt many companies would make games for the 1% borderline rapists, rather than to sell a game which celebrates women's vulnerability.

Then again, I have strong opinions on the subject of rape. If people feel this is clouding rational judgement, please feel free to correct anything that I've said that just sounds stupid.

1% of rapist is a LOT of people. And even if it didn't stop anyone raping whos arsed? It's not going to encourage rape some people enjoy this sort of thing. It's not harming ANYONE AT ALL so let them do it.

Doug:

Same here, I can sortof see the 'its an outlet for rape urges' argument, but I think thats like putting a plaster over a blown off leg - if they have the urge to rape in the first place, its pretty likely they need a hell of alot more help than that... or chemical castration.

To be frank, I think that the harm is does is, as you say, 'celebrate women's vulernability', but also it threatens to normalize rape to some degree.

I'd be interested to see the estimated number of rapes per 1000 people in Japan vs other nations (reported rapes don't really count as its estimated that over 90% of rapes go unreported even in western nations). Especially Holland, where prostitution is legal.

Since when was doing prositutes rape?

Oh and the anti-censor ships people...

There's an 8 year old girl in the game. Just saying if you don't think that warrants a ban, well, okay stick with you beliefs but as far as I'm concerned censor the crap out of trash like this.

ontherisess:

Doug:

Same here, I can sortof see the 'its an outlet for rape urges' argument, but I think thats like putting a plaster over a blown off leg - if they have the urge to rape in the first place, its pretty likely they need a hell of alot more help than that... or chemical castration.

To be frank, I think that the harm is does is, as you say, 'celebrate women's vulernability', but also it threatens to normalize rape to some degree.

I'd be interested to see the estimated number of rapes per 1000 people in Japan vs other nations (reported rapes don't really count as its estimated that over 90% of rapes go unreported even in western nations). Especially Holland, where prostitution is legal.

Since when was doing prositutes rape?

Since when did I say it was?!

I meant that in theory, prostitution reduces rape - does this happen in practise is another question.

Sorry if someone's already said this , I only read the first three pages before it got too repetitive for me.

I think the important thing in censorship is not the banning of the material but expressing as a society that we're not okay with some things. People will always find a way around censorship and games like this won't dissappear, to which I say-- whatever. After all, in the hands of most people they will no more encourage rape than GTA will encourage most people to steal cars and run down old ladies.

The important thing is that that we aren't validating the values (or lack thereof) in rape games. By keeping them on the fringe they're still accessible to the curious, fetishists or whoever wants to go look for them without risking questionable attitudes to women being normalized or widely accepted. I suppose the issue in Japan is that society's attitude towards women IS questionable. As been noted, the rape rate is pretty low compared to other countries, but I wonder how that statistic would fare if it included all forms of sexual assault, eg groping etc. On a broader note, Japanese women still struggle for equal pay and recognition in the workplace, and there are less women in government than some supposedly conservative middle eastern countries.

These problems are of course bigger than can be fixed with self-imposed gaming censorship, but it's a good step in the gradual changing of attitudes that appears to be taking place in Japan.

And I do think the overall issue here is attitude of some men toward women. Somebody made a point of saying men are sexually assaulted also, but that isn't what's portrayed in these games.

The thing is that while we have violent games (and I play them happily) there is a certain line. Sexual assault is one of the most terrible crimes in the world and horrendously scarring for the victim. And so is murder, but look at the context of an average shooter- you have enemies who are trying to kill you to stop you going somewhere or doing something so you kill them to make your task easier (bit Stalin-esque really) and there's always some sort of backstory to give you a reason for doing it. The act of killing isn't a personalised thing, there are so many and it's just a question of 'click mouse/press button, dude bleeds'

Now look at this game where the soul intent of the game is to sexually assault a mother and her daughters. Pregnancy and abortion are key features too. This is pretty fucking sick and rape ranks higher than murder as a crime to me. My aunt was raped and impregnated in the years before abortion was legal in the UK and she had to have the kid. My cousin is an ok kid but imagine the distress it causes both of them to know how he was created? Rape damages you forever because if you are unfortunate enough to be left alive after the attack you will never be able to forget it.

I'm not some rabid racist but there is something very messed up with the sexual part of Japanese culture. Has anyone heard of the Rape of Nanking? When the Imperial Japanese Army captured the Chinese capital in 1937 they embarked on a six week period of murder and rape. When I lived in Taiwan I used to see busloads of Japanese businessmen being bussed to huge brothel-hotels for the weekend. And to cement my argument here is a story for you: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3146514.stm read carefully

Now we have established that Japan needs to undergo a change in its view of sex so one thing we CAN do is stop encouraging and trivialising the act of sexual assault through video games.

Rant over, everyone have a nice day.

10-20 percent of the Japanese gaming market? I have had suspicions that Japan had sexual issues and this pretty much confirms it.

how graphic does it have to become before its banned, i remember playing the path, in which one (possibly more but i only played it whit one girl) got raped yet the game was wildly appreciated, and ill say i find murder and torture till death to be far worse than rape yet those things are in bout 90% of all games made, the last 10% are games by popcap.

not to mention the hundred, no thousand of movies, books, porn, comic books, and anime/hentai shows that graphically describe or show rape, yet if it shows it so we sympathize whit the victim instead of the rapist those (mostly the movies and the books) can win prestigious awards.

its unethical to ban one view point and praise another, we dont have courts where one part gets a lawyer and the other gets a sock in their mouth.

Curiosity's Cat:

The important thing is that that we aren't validating the values (or lack thereof) in rape games. By keeping them on the fringe they're still accessible to the curious, fetishists or whoever wants to go look for them without risking questionable attitudes to women being normalized or widely accepted. I suppose the issue in Japan is that society's attitude towards women IS questionable. As been noted, the rape rate is pretty low compared to other countries, but I wonder how that statistic would fare if it included all forms of sexual assault, eg groping etc. On a broader note, Japanese women still struggle for equal pay and recognition in the workplace, and there are less women in government than some supposedly conservative middle eastern countries.

I think the thing about the stats is they don't express the sheer difference in Japanese culture. As you say, their attitude towards women is very questionable. As such, I have to wonder how many women would report rape over there? And further, if they've been conditioned to be more submissive, they would be easier to for the arseholes of Japan (a cultural universal, the arsehole) to manpilate and control, and hence not need to rape.

Its very hard to simply compare the 2 sets of figures correctly, especially as rape is usually a witnessless criminal and the issue of consent is usually a case of her word vs his word (also part of but not the only the reason why rape convinctions are so low).

Sewblon:
10-20 percent of the Japanese gaming market? I have had suspicions that Japan had sexual issues and this pretty much confirms it.

....?! You've only just worked that out now?!?

Watch the rape rates in Japan soar. Congratulations Feminists. You're making the world a worse place one country at a time.

DC_Josh:
Here is a question.

Do rape games allow men/women to experience the vile act in a safe, private enviroment which then prevents them from going out and doing it "fo'real"? Do these games act as a curiosity killer?

Although my personal standpoint is that these "games" are massivly badong (bad and wrong), I am still intrested in the opinions of this dear community.

Not saying I don't agree with you, but some might argue that those exposed to this kind of thing who hadn't previously been exposed to it might like it too much.

I think, however, that rational people can understand the difference between reality and fantasy. Many people engage in fantasies, some of them more disturbing than others, without actually doing something bad. For example, some couples role-play, where the man pretends he is raping his wife, and she struggles. It gets them off. How is this any different? Are we to ban disturbing role-playing out-of-games as well?

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