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Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2296 Joined: 16 Feb 2009     | ahna FANBOY FRENZY! I NEED TO SAVE UP FOR MY NEW COMPUTER! NOW! Battlefield 2 is perfection. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 971 Joined: 21 Apr 2009     | Well Battlefield 2 is fantastic. I hope Battlefield 3 can live up to Expectations. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4549 Joined: 25 Feb 2008     | Big hopes for BF3. Nice to hear they're giving DICE lots and lots of time to make it as well. To be honest it's whole success (with me) will depend on how heavy/dumb the DRM in it is. BF2's could be slightly annoying but it worked and kept track of your stats for you. BF 2142 decided I was a pirate after a few weeks (I wasn't) and locked me out, £35 down the drain and the EA's tech support on the issue amounted to 'Fuck You'. #Edit, finally an excuse to splash on a NW falcon... |
SUSPENDED  Posts: 6071 Joined: 25 Jan 2008    |
- Gimmicky new concepts like the Titan are only as good as the ability to play them lag-free. - Realism comes second place to enjoyability and ease of use (hence why 1942 still has the bigger player base 7 years post-release). - Jets are only fun if you can fly them (criticism of BF2, 2142 solved this somewhat). - Achievements only encourage players to be dicks. - Don't limit the co-op maps to small sizes only. - Anti-Tankers should have enough ammo, and do enough damage, to actually be a threat to tanks. - Give us back our f'ing NAVY! - If you don't include Capture-The-Flag maps, the fans will never forgive you. User was suspended for: MMOG Teaches Kids About Traffic Safety. (3 days) |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 426 Joined: 15 Feb 2008    | I just had an orgasm. Hopefully they don't go all console on this and dumb it down to much. I want at least 64 players damn it! Also what poster right over me said. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 549 Joined: 3 Jan 2009     | Awesome. I'm a sucker for anything Battlefield related... except the console releases.
I'll agree with more ammo - but they did do enough damage, just had to maneuver around the tank. I whore Anti-Tank like a mofo. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2296 Joined: 16 Feb 2009 |
Dumb it down? How the hell would it be dumbed down? MAG will have like 200+ players, and that's a console exclusive. There's also FFXI for Xbox 360, which is an MMO. I doubt it would be dumbed down from consoles. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 700 Joined: 23 Jan 2009     | Hopefully, BF3 takes more hints from the school of BF2142 then of BF2. Namely: Easy-to-learn, hard-to-master vehicles, not impossible-to-learn, rape-everything-once-you-do vehicles. Anti-Air needs to be effective at you know....destroying air vehicles? Anti-Vehicle Classes need more ammo, and more options. Better weapon balance. (Voss non-withstanding.) Less Gibralter/Karkand, more Minsk/Belgrade/Kubra Dam/Operation Smokescreen. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 118 Joined: 9 Apr 2009     |
as a seasoned BF 1942-BC player i say.... amen |
Muckraker  Posts: 238 Joined: 5 Aug 2008    |
the anti-air/vehicle class/emplacements were pretty effective in Bad Company, they'll probably bring it back |
SUSPENDED Posts: 6071 Joined: 25 Jan 2008 |
BF2 wasn't bad for this, could be better, but not bad. Light vehicles were still One-shot-kill as they should be, and you could usually get two whole tanks killed for one kit-load of missiles, provided you got at least one or two rear hits. BF2142 was down-right criminal. You had to be damn-near perfect with every shot in order to take out a walker/tank, since it was usually 4 of 5 rounds to kill one. THEN they went and gave them shields and lock-warnings, making it entirely possible that an anti-tank kit couldn't even take out a vehicle. The AA-launcher upgrade being even less reliable and coming at the cost of having any other usable weapons. Two hits should be enough on the average vehicle, three on super-reinforced rare ones. A single AT kit should be capable of killing at least three armored vehicles, with a shot or two for misses and deflected hits. Eight rounds would be fair in an AT kit, they don't get a rifle after all. And AA kits should only be two, maybe three shots, but guaranteed kills if they hit, and the trooper should still have a real rifle. That's my thoughts on it at least.
The Apache from BF-DCFinal comes to mind. In the right hands (mine, for instance), the Apache only has ONE enemy, the Shilka, and the best it can do is 1/3rd damage before I put a pair of hellfire missiles up its tailpipe. But most players back when DCF was current could not fly the helis. Fewer still could actually LAND one intact, and I knew only three who could pull off one-man/two-second flag captures with a little bird (that's dropping right beside the flag, landing at near full-throttle, hopping out, grab the flag, hop back in, and take off while the rotors are still spinning at full. Two seconds on the ground from the second the sled touches dirt to when it lifts up again).
DCFinal comes to mind, stinger missiles which somehow lacked the heat-tracking system. But that was Trauma Team's fan mod, can't blame them... So BF Nam comes to mind next, and oh damn, only ONE of the two sides even gets anti-air, and its heat tracking sucks like Monica Lewinsky under the desk in the oval office. BF2, no AA if I recall... Well, nothing man-pack. The fly-by-wire AT launcher could hit helis now and then, but that's it. And lastly, 2142... The turret emplacements tracked decently, but the damn shields thing made kills near impossible. Also, could only hit air units coming straight on, or flying away. Side hits always missed unless they were going slow. The man-pack, aside from being useless against anything BUT the one or two air units per map, sucked again like Monica Lewinsky. User was suspended for: MMOG Teaches Kids About Traffic Safety. (3 days) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3085 Joined: 13 Jul 2008    |
I would say that this would be my response. Also: Finally. But it does pose the question, where the hell is Battlefield Heroes? EDIT: Yes, I know the beta is out. And I'm playing it. See my later post on the matter. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2296 Joined: 16 Feb 2009 |
The beta for Battlefield: Heroes is running right now, you do know that, right? I got a beta key from Gamespot, but I doubt they have anyones left. So unless you're already in the beta, you'll just have to wait until it's released. :P |
SUSPENDED Posts: 6071 Joined: 25 Jan 2008 | Meh, from what I hear, Heroes is more advertisements than game. User was suspended for: MMOG Teaches Kids About Traffic Safety. (3 days) |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 3085 Joined: 13 Jul 2008 |
Oh yeah, but I'd like to be able to play the game with everyone. I've played the beta to death with random people from the internets, and I kept thinking one thing: "This would be so much more fun with friends." And that, is why I want Battlefield: Heroes to be released fully. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2296 Joined: 16 Feb 2009 |
The computer I'm currently using couldn't handle Heroes, but the friend thing wouldn't really be an issue for me. All of my friends are in the beta as well. :P |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2932 Joined: 10 Aug 2008    |
I'm playing it.... google does you good. EDIT: Seen your reply now. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 743 Joined: 10 Mar 2009   | Two words: Fuck. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 940 Joined: 25 Mar 2009   | me and my buddy Donut were just about to bust out BF2 and get some rounds in on it, but I can't find my disc. I'm gonna be fiending for this game once we get a release date, I hope I have a computer that will run it properly when it shows up. My computer still struggles a bit with BF2... mostly the MASSIVE load times! |
Beat Writer  Posts: 183 Joined: 2 Jun 2009    | Bah, Battlefield is overrated and for people that find it fun being able to win by acting like rabbits and rambo's. TBH I'm glad its coming out, it'll keep those sort of players busy :). |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 700 Joined: 23 Jan 2009 | Sennet: 2142 I feel handled things much better then BF2, in terms of everything, basically. Lets start with the vehicles. FAVs and APCs are moot-points - in both BF2 and 2142 you use them to get where you need to go, and as inpromtu cover. Anything else is suicide. At least in 2142, APCs seve another purpose as a Titan Attack Platform. Tanks are balanced for both sides, even though the PAC one can strafe. And even though they have shields, they'll often only be activated if they know the shot is coming - often after they've been hit the first time too. The shield will basically last the course of a reload - they'll shield will be gone in time for the next hit. They only take 3 hits from the starter kit from the top or sides, 2 from the back. Philum makes it one in the back and 2 elsewhere. Walkers are powerful, but they become huge targets, and they have to huge weakpoints - the back and in-between the legs. One good basic Rocket or Philum ends a walker a lot of times. Air vehicles in 2142 are fairly balanced. The gunships are powerful, but in order to make the most of them, they have to move dangerously slow for some time, allowing any Enigneer to line up shots from multiple angles. Also, Motion Mines on the Titan Hanger Shield never gets old. Unlike the jets of BF2, which are invincable, flying death machines who scoff at any attempt to combat them. Further, for ground-based targets, Engineers have the Motion Mines, which unlike the useless mines in BF2, actually track the target, and though they do slighlty less damage then normal mines, 2 or 3 will destory anything. In addition, for maps heavy with air units, the Engineer can get the SAAW in 2142, which is an excellent anti-air tool. Though ineffective against ground targets, its better then the options of....absolutely nothing in BF2 and BC. Skilled players know that both the Philum and basic Rockets are the most dangerous weapons the Engineers has, and with a sufficently skilled user, the starter Rockets in the Enigneer Kit are more dangerous then the Philum. Further, unlike BF2 and BC, the ground turrets actually dangerous to vehicles. The rail gun hurts....a lot. The anti-air tracks well, and does a huge amount of damage. Unlike in BF2, where you're just another point on the scoreboard if you even try to touch the AA, or in BC, where the AA just tickles the Helios, and the ground turrets are too easily destroyed and never come back. Including this, BF2142 was overall just a better game then BF2. Hell, I'd pay for 2142 all over again if it came with the Frostbite Engine. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2204 Joined: 6 Apr 2009 | Im lucking forward to this. But first I need a pc that runs BF2 or BF2142 all i have a mo is laptop that can handle BF hereos. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 973 Joined: 22 Mar 2008   | -facepalm- Modern Warfare 2 has a LOT behind it. Good dev team that put quality over quantity, nice, intuitive story, Soap MacTavish, snow warfare, snowmobiles. SNOWMOBILES, FOR JAYSUS'S SAKE. Battlefield 3 will have to bring a LOT to compare. |
Paperboy  Posts: 35 Joined: 2 Jul 2009   | Well this was enough to get my attention, then we will see what will happens when the game comes out. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2482 Joined: 6 Apr 2009   | This is one of the worst kept secrets in gaming but I can't wait till BF3 kicks the CoD series in the nuts. I don't care how many BF fanboys this game spawns I dislike Activision. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4889 Joined: 22 Feb 2009   | More interested in Bad Company, but you know, the third is welcome ;D |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1774 Joined: 29 May 2008  |
I hope you've played either Battlefield 1942. And by that i really mean, i really hope you've played Desert Combat for Battlefield 1942. Because after playing either of those two games, any Battlefield game was a dissapointment. And believe me, i tried to love Battlefield Vietnam, i tried to love Battlefield 2. All the actual skill was taken out of using any vehicle in that game. I could write a very, very long list about what was wrong with Battlefield 2. I'm not saying DC was perfect, but then it got snuffed out by Dice as they bought their dev team up, before it ever even hit 1.0, and it's still the best 'Battlefield' ever made. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 957 Joined: 19 Mar 2009   | I hope EA and Dice die !!! Come on millionth Battlefield game and only one has a singelplayer storyline. All these multiplayer plain shooters, better graphics and better graphics, first fix your problems on old ones then make new ones. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 418 Joined: 10 Jan 2009 |
They umm... didn't notice?
Yeah, except the guns, which are kind of important in an FPS game. Oh and the last time i played this, the moment a vehicle showed up all the infantry became meaningless fleeing target practice so i'm not sure about the balance either. And don't get me started on redeeming the booster packs! |
I just hope EA has learned some lessons from BF2/2142. Namely;Reply to Thread
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EA Confirms Battlefield 3
Electronic Arts has confirmed that Battlefield 3 is in the works, saying it's putting a "real concentrated effort" into the game in hopes it can put a dent in Activision's dominance of the military shooter genre.
Released in 2005, Battlefield 2 was the first "modern" combat shooter in the Battlefield series, following Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield Vietnam, and was a respectable sales success with over one million units sold in the U.S.; the console version, Battlefield 2: Modern Combat, fared comparably, puting out 1.2 million copies. But both games pale beside the eight-million-selling Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, the 2007 Activision FPS that went on to be the best-selling game of the year.
Modern Warfare 2 is set to come out later this year and Activision is planning for even bigger sales this time around, but EA no longer appears willing to let that thunder go unstolen. "We have a lot of IP in that [shooter] area, and we have not not noticed that Call of Duty has a significant share of that business," EA Chief Operating Officer John Pleasants said during a question-and-answer session with industry analysts. "We are putting a real concentrated effort behind those titles. Battlefield happens to be one of them."
"I've had the luxury of looking at Battlefield 3 over at DICE over in Sweden. I was highly impressed by the way the people were working on that product," he continued. "That's not for this fiscal year [which ends March 31, 2010], but that is a product that is looking very good."
Pleasants said that Battlefield 1943, which is set for digital-only release in September, is also "going well," and that with the Battlefield franchise "strengthening and moving to a service model," he is optimistic about its future. "But it's not our only title which we are hoping to gain share with in the shooter category," he added, noting that EA has high hopes for the upcoming Army of Two: The 40th Day.
Source: GameSpot
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