Alpha Protocol Sex Scenes: "Tasteful" Yet "Satisfying"

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Alpha Protocol Sex Scenes: "Tasteful" Yet "Satisfying"

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Sounding like nothing so much as a commercial for lite beer, Obsidian Entertainment says the sex scenes in the upcoming RPG Alpha Protocol will be "tasteful" but "satisfying."

Knocking boots during the slow bits seems to be all the rage among videogame characters these days and that's a train Obsidian plans to catch. Alpha Protocol, the third-person action-RPG set for release later this year, will feature plenty of weapons, combat, high-tech gadgetry - and quality time with the ladies. But this isn't going to be some free-flying eastern European boob-fest; no sir, these tender moments are all about the good taste.

"It's tasteful," Obsidian Programming Producer Nathan Davis told VideoGamer.com. "We do some things with our cinematics, too. It isn't just like a hand up on a thing! We cut around it a little bit. It's an American game! What can I say? There are limits to what we can do there."

While the inclusion of sex, even the tasteful kind, is ostensibly a sign of the industry's burgeoning maturity, Davis seemed to have trouble describing the actual scenes without sounding like a red-faced 12-year-old. "I've seen a few of the cinematics for those," he continued, "and it ends up being satisfying without being... you know... over... you know?"

Actually, I really don't know, Nathan. A hand up on a thing? Whatever that means, Davis emphasized that while players will be able to romance a number of the game's characters, the sex will be entirely non-interactive, playing out exclusively through cut scenes. "No, no, no! No God of War sex scenes!" he said. "We don't have that."

Tasteful, maybe. But satisfying? I fail to see how it could possibly be both. Obsidian's Alpha Protocol is set for release on October 6 for the PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

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Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

God, must everything contain a sex scene?

Oh, whatever.

It seems to me like game developers are still completely missing the point, putting sex in for (excuse the pun) a tit wank from the Moral Guardians. They're not putting it in to make an artistic statement or because sex has any real place in their game, it's just "hey look, boobies!"

Consider me unimpressed. Game developers seem to have about as much understanding of sex as, say, the teenage nerds to whom they're marketing this dreck.

MaxTheReaper:
God, must everything contain a sex scene?

Oh, whatever.

To paraphrase a certain writer, All true stories include sex. Except, you know, that one with the Virgin Mary.

They say that, but they're hardly going to describe it as "Tasteful yet Explicit", nor are they going to say "Hardcore yet Boring"

needausername:
They say that, but they're hardly going to describe it as "Tasteful yet Extreme", nor are they going to say "Full On yet Boring"

You could have "Tasteful yet explicit" but I don't think anyone would go out of their way to make "Hardcore But Boring".

This'll reflect badly on me, but did anyone else find the term "tastful, yet satisfying" funny?

SimuLord:
It seems to me like game developers are still completely missing the point, putting sex in for (excuse the pun) a tit wank from the Moral Guardians. They're not putting it in to make an artistic statement or because sex has any real place in their game, it's just "hey look, boobies!"

Consider me unimpressed. Game developers seem to have about as much understanding of sex as, say, the teenage nerds to whom they're marketing this dreck.

Hmm? I just wanna say that spending time with the ladies is part of being the spy/James Bond fantasy.

I just hope it really is tasteful, I don't want it to feel like I'm looking through Facebook pictures.

RelexCryo:

To paraphrase a certain writer, All true stories include sex. Except, you know, that one with the Virgin Mary.

All I'm saying is, video games don't need sex.

If I really wanted to, I could go find someone to have sex with.

But can I murder fifty heavily-armed dudes?
...Actually, yes.

Why do I play video games again?
I'm already a god.

I think the real question is, who will be satisfied by the sex? o.O

Bad jokes aside, I'm kinda looking forward to Alpha Protocol, no matter if there's sex or not.

Great, that's just what we need to save the industry, more sex scenes.

I mean come on, can't we just go back to games having implied sex scenes, you know, like the ones in GTA IV, Viva Pinata and Tetris?

RelexCryo:

MaxTheReaper:
God, must everything contain a sex scene?

Oh, whatever.

To paraphrase a certain writer, All true stories include sex. Except, you know, that one with the Virgin Mary.

Any story that intentionally derives itself pride from not having sex in it is consequently attacking the very reason that any of us exist to experience that story at all.

I find it odd that THE most critical action is the one we bash the most.

I mean don't get me wrong, if an Orgy breaks out like a dance beat in West Side Story, I might be a bit perturbed. But if my dude has been robbing for months to take his GF on a nice date I expect some sort of happy ending to the story.

OMG BEWEBZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On a serious note the game it's self looks fairly intesting, the idea of roleplaying a kind of super spy sounds cool. I think that this will be a well made game considering the lead designer is Chris Avellone, he worked on games such as Fallout 2 and KOTOR 2.

PedroSteckecilo:
Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

It runs on the same engine and the dialogue interactions look simular.

Then again, I haven't been keeping up with the game so there's probably more

MaxTheReaper:

But can I murder fifty heavily-armed dudes?
...Actually, yes.

huh. i was wondering who it was that did that.

i agree with your sentiments though. this is why i tend towards modern technologys more childish games.

Well, I guess that game won't be coming out in Australia.

An RPG from Obsidian? I'm all over that, sex scenes or not.

If every game had its own sex scene, it would stop being a novelty, and then they would have to make it good at least... Most changes start with excess. Quite often, it's simply called adolescence. Even though I agree that sex in games is generally lame, at least it will change the vision of video games as children toys. If only "Video games" were called "virtual experiences" instead, it would help the industry grow up so much.

theultimateend:

RelexCryo:

MaxTheReaper:
God, must everything contain a sex scene?

Oh, whatever.

To paraphrase a certain writer, All true stories include sex. Except, you know, that one with the Virgin Mary.

Any story that intentionally derives itself pride from not having sex in it is consequently attacking the very reason that any of us exist to experience that story at all.

Exactly what I was trying to say, nicely put :)

What like Terminator tasteful yet satisfying*, or Stardust tasteful yet satisfying?**

* - Where we get the full effect but it is crucial to the plot and sincere
** - Where it is an implied thing and we dont get to watch, but okay because the whole true love thing was done really well.

Or will it be tasteful yet unsatisfying, like Leaving Las Vegas


Or tasteless but sasitfying like Fight Club, which was stylish and plot crucial, but also pretty tasteless.
Or tasteless and unsatisfying like Crank which was basically just an excuse to sneak some Amy Smart porn into a dumb action movie.

Or just plain haunting like Jennifer Connoly's ass to ass scene in Requium for a Dream .

MaxTheReaper:
God, must everything contain a sex scene?

Oh, whatever.

Sex is a part of life, games imitate life at the most basic levels, there's nothing more basic than sex.

Anyway, I'm not complaining... I just hope I don't have to sit through five minutes of soft-core faux orgasms.

Booze Zombie:

Sex is a part of life, games imitate life at the most basic levels, there's nothing more basic than sex.

Anyway, I'm not complaining... I just hope I don't have to sit through five minutes of soft-core faux orgasms.

No, killing is the most natural thing ever.
Everything in nature kills, even if it doesn't do it directly.

Unreliable:
Or tasteless and unsatisfying like Crank which was basically just an excuse to sneak some Amy Smart porn into a dumb action movie

That's the best one of the list.

MaxTheReaper:
No, killing is the most natural thing ever.
Everything in nature kills, even if it doesn't do it directly.

That's a given, though. Everyone knows about killing.
Sex comes just after that.

PedroSteckecilo:
Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

Well, Mass Effect ripped quite a few bits from Kotor 2 too, so this is hardly unjustified.

I don't think that the demographic for such a game would find 'tasteful'(whatever that means, something like PG13 scenes I guess) sex-scenes satisfying.

Tasteful doesn't mean censorship, it means with artistic or literary purpose.

The sex scene may work, though I get the impression that they are not managing the eroticism with purpose, which means it's probably very unsatisfying. In good eroticism, the sex scene is climatic. Everything up to it is a tease (the leading of the gaze, maintaining the mystery to invoke the imagination, fostering a curious lust), but the sex should be a revelation. You build up the sexual tension and then unleash it--and at that point, the characters (and the player) should really want it.

Considering that the game seems very "action-flick", their main purpose for the sex is probably plain titillation. In that case, they should just go for it... but they won't because they're not artists and they don't care about tasteful sex or artistic purpose. At least, the prudes in charge (like this guy) don't. I'm sure--or I hope--the writers and visual artists are more open-minded.

These guys only care about getting what sales they can without pissing off the media watchdogs or going into AO territory (essentially banned from the market). The games that get out there, with serious production values, are not made with artistic aspirations, but for commercial profit. Games do not have art houses or studios dedicated to creating an artistic experience; they are trapped inside a profit-driven industry. They refuse to take risks and exploit the full artistic potential of the work, which is why their works are not tasteful, artistic masterpieces and they are not accepted as an art form by the mainstream.

Games are seen as for kids because few are pushing the boundaries and trying to make games truly for mature-minded adults. Will it happen eventually? Yes. More "mature" games will feature sexual content until it because the norm, and then they will have to make exceptional sex scenes to stand apart from the rest (but it could happen faster if the people in charge were capable of forming coherent sentences about sex in the way, y'know, a mature person would).

The game industry needs to stop making claims to being an artistic venue if it is not going to follow artistic aspirations when they conflict with producing profit. Art is not concerned with profit. Industry professionals need to stop making claims of games as art if they're not working fully with artistic aspirations instead of profit-mongering. Art is, and should be, risky.

Brotherofwill:

PedroSteckecilo:
Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

Well, Mass Effect ripped quite a few bits from Kotor 2 too, so this is hardly unjustified.

I don't think that the demographic for such a game would find 'tasteful'(whatever that means, something like PG13 scenes I guess) sex-scenes satisfying.

Anything with tits?

"Satisfying?" What, does a force-feedback codpiece come with the game?

This was already done, in Mass Effect.

Why doesn't he just say: "Our game has sex scenes in it, but they're not pornographic."? That would seem to describe it well enough.

Can't wait to figure out what the hell they're talking about.
Kind of a hard line to straddle (teehee), not upsetting the hardliners but still not disappointing the horny consumers who got their hopes up.
They're probably just going to slip it in for the sake of it, though the title of trailblazers who push the envelope of what's allowed in games has already been taken.

Arrers:
This'll reflect badly on me, but did anyone else find the term "tastful, yet satisfying" funny?

Sounds like some kind of diet bar.

Amnestic:

Brotherofwill:

PedroSteckecilo:
Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

Well, Mass Effect ripped quite a few bits from Kotor 2 too, so this is hardly unjustified.

I don't think that the demographic for such a game would find 'tasteful'(whatever that means, something like PG13 scenes I guess) sex-scenes satisfying.

Anything with tits?

Sideboob at most.

Although at least it won't be blue.

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The Great JT:
"Satisfying?" What, does a force-feedback codpiece come with the game?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

For the "full experience," you'll have to pay extra for the accessory.

I've been browsing the site and the game looks genuinely interesting, sex or no sex. Looks quite similar to BioWare's RPG style. You know, characters not standing ramrod stiff when they talk to you. They look like they actually have emotion.

I hate my brain. The phrase "tasteful, yet satisfying" brought to mind "slimy yet satisfying" from The Lion King and THAT IS NOT THE SORT OF PHRASE I WANT TO MENTALLY ATTACH TO A SEX SCENE.

More on-topic (and less nauseating, but only slightly): Are sex scenes becoming gaming advertising's new bragging point, like how "millions of polygons" used to be? "Look, we've got virtual whoopie too, but we're even more tasteful and stuff about it!" It's like mooning a television camera with the words "I AM A RESPONSIBLE ADULT" painted on your butt.

MaxTheReaper:

Booze Zombie:

Sex is a part of life, games imitate life at the most basic levels, there's nothing more basic than sex.

Anyway, I'm not complaining... I just hope I don't have to sit through five minutes of soft-core faux orgasms.

No, killing is the most natural thing ever.
Everything in nature kills, even if it doesn't do it directly.

You can't kill if you aren't born.

So you fail. Try again emo boy ;).

More things in nature breed than kill. Take hundreds of thousands of species of plants for example. Of them VERY few kill but ALL of them breed.

If you want to say indirectly things do things. Then all things do all things to all things. Which is a universal statement and universal statements are absolutely meaningless. You get a big fat F in philosophy and logic courses for using them.

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