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That's disapointing as I spent a lot of time leveling my Shep | |
Well thats lame, no matter how they put it it will still seem like a cop out. Oh well, i guess thats what new games are for, starting over. | |
I can hear the sound of a million munchkin's nerd-raging as we speak. Personally, I'm not bothered. I was kind of hoping something like this would happen, as I think it would get old if you started the game at level 60, and was able to one-shot everything that moves with your modified HMWSR Sniper Rifle. That said, I'm also disappointed that I won't be able to go around and one-shot everything that moves with my modified HMWSR Sniper Rifle from the get-go. | |
Well.....good. You'd just destroy everything at a high level, and new players would be screwed, you couldn't balance that. | |
Well starting at level X from a previous game is either going to completely unbalance the game for the player, or be forced to uber-strength the enemies meaning that you might as well start at level 1 for all the good it does you. | |
While its a shame that the carry-over won't be as in depth for Shepard as we had hoped we still carry over some things like being renegade/paragon, being level 60, etc so its not a total cop out. Plus its an acceptable sacrifice given that the new combat system looks to be miles better than the already pretty decent first. | |
normally I wouldnt be too happy, but he seems to have justified himslef quite well by saying the new systems wont fit with the old leveling. They are bringing over what they can, so kudos to them. | |
It sounds like they're going with the "lame contrivance" mentioned in the article. | |
I suggest you see what they do before you mock them, Malygris. If it's good, that statement will come back to bite you in the arse. | |
Sigh... I can already see it... A fun day in the sun. ME cast playing catch. Wrex: "Here it comes! Shepard! Heads up!" | |
I can totally see Liara saying something annoying like that, too. Why couldn't I kill HER off instead of Kaiden? | |
YOU XENOPHOBE!! Besides, you would kill a hot blue female alien (okay, ignore the squidheads) instead of a dumb generic URF SOLDA!, really? | |
I thought they'd end up doing something like this. You're meant to start over in new games, who'd want to play through the game with almost unlimited cash and the best weapons, like I had? I wouldn't. Fresh starts are good. | |
Lemme guess, He gets upgraded with a new one of those chip things (the things that allow people to use biotics and all that other cool stuff). Actually this makes a lot of sense. I'm proud of myself | |
If it's amnesia, I'm boycotting BioWare. | |
Did anyone really expect them to let you keep your super powerful level 60 stats/abilities? It should have been obvious that wasn't going to happen. At least they are actually going to give small perks to people with achievements and level 60 toons. As far as the reasoning goes it could be a number of things. Maybe the normandy getting blown to hell happens earlier then they've hinted at? That'd be a good excuse to fry all our equipment. Say Shepard blacks out and gets knocked to high hell in the destruction. I'd figure he wouldn't be at 100% ability wise right after something like that. | |
Eh, screw it. Most of the fun of an RPG is levelling up and getting spiffy gear anyways. I'll be hitting 'New Character' when asked methinks. | |
True. I'd rather have Kaidan's snarky comments and interesting anecdotes than Liara's Spock Speak and dull, monotone speech. On topic, I hope you can pick what stuff to carry over. For instance, I'm replaying the game now, going Renegade to see what it's like, but I don't want my ME2 Shepard to be a Renegade, yet I'd still like to keep my Specialization, level, and some story points (like being an ass to Conrad and releasing the Rachni). | |
Better to be a xenophobe than a homophobe. Don't tell me you didn't notice the romantic mood lighting and sexual tension every time male Shepard had a conversation with Kaiden on-board the Normandy... Kaiden totally had the hots for Shepard and he didn't let a little thing like gender get in the way, the fruity psychic nutcase. "Oh Commander, I have a headache...it's nothing though, maybe if you just talk to me a little bit, it will get better". I bet he suddenly wouldn't have a headache if Shepard propositioned him, oh no, his 'attention headache' would disappear faster than Ambassador Udina's career. I hope he makes a return in Mass Effect 2 (if you didn't kill him), and I hope things are just as awkward between him and Shepard... it's melodrama like this that makes Bioware's games stand out. | |
The game keeps the completed game save from when you were paragon. So it won't matter if you used the same profile. The only exception to that is when you do that with a level 60 character because then the endgame save overwrites the last one. To make sure, you can start a new game in ME and pick wahtever profile you were using. You should see that toon at whatever level you last beat the game at and in that save if you did it on paragon he would still be paragon in ME 2. Edit: Or at least thats how Bioware folks have said it will work on their forums, so if that changes don't sue me =p Edit 2: Just reread this and it sounds tad bit confusing so I'll give you an example. I beat the game three times with my Soldier class Shepard. So I have 3 end games saves with the same shepard, one level 34 save, one level 53 save, and one level 60 save. There all the exact same shepard but according to Bioware I can choose any of the 3 saves to start ME 2 with. So if I was paragon with the level 34 save my ME 2 shep would be paragon. Same goes with the other two saves. | |
Quest for Glory did the character imports well. | |
So, he's homosexual, but you can sleep with him if you have a female Shepard? Rrrright. | |
I'm worried now, I saw a video that had one of the characters saying 'I thought you were dead!?' to shep. Presumably this means that there was some kind of accident and amnesia is a possibility, I just pray that bioware is better than that. | |
Well, I can't see any signs of Shepard's amnesia in the teasers and footage so far... By the way, I'm glad that the abilities will not stay at the end of the game. Now I don't have to beat the game 3 or 4 more times so that I have perfect uber-Shepard build with ultimate abilities that you can only gain by doing achievements and making a new Shepard with them and then training him/her again... Oh my. The thing that's bugging me is that the the progress in ME1 isn't saved after the final cutscene. What stays is just your character (and its and abilities) without any storyline decisions and paragon/renegade pints. I wonder how are they going to pull this off.
Well, he said that Kaidan "didn't let a little thing like gender get in the way"... | |
No, he's not really, but it can seem that way. I was just making a joke about the unintentional comedy caused by Bioware's shortcuts in making the game. Bioware only made one scene for the interaction between Shepard and Kaiden, and since they used it to set up the romantic sub-plot between female Shepard and Kaiden, it also had the side effect of causing a funny, awkward and almost homoerotic atmosphere between male Shepard and Kaiden. There's only one mood for the scene between Kaiden and Shepard, and funnily enough it's a romantic one for the sake of the female Shepard. Love truly is blind. | |
I really don't mind. I never really like going into a sequel with an overpowered, overarmed, overly rich character. It's a gamebreaker. | |
Also, when I first saw this article, I did doubt take and swore I saw Corpral Shepard. But sadly no. | |
I don't mind at all. Even playing through again with a high-level character bores me. Never mind the sequel. | |
I was just thinking that I'm looking forward to see what actually like because the new changes I'v seen so far look good. | |
Hahaha, that's a totally viable theory on the XP reset. I was thinking he just gets extended leave for his amazing service to the galaxy and kind of lets himself go and gets doughy. | |
I was thinking the same thing, like it would be more of a medical thing in that Shepard is "salvaged" and rebuilt with memories intact, but the physical, learned abilities are much lower due to the reconstruction process that forces him to essentially learn how to walk again. I was hoping that they would find a way to keep the experience level going though. Why couldn't a new Mass Effect 2 character not start out at level 50? The Quest for Glory series had it right. ;-) In the end though, it's doesn't matter; I play for the story more than the action. | |
Totally. Also, I kinda deleted ME after my playthrough (didn't like it enough to play it twice) so I was wondering what happens with new characters? Will I get to say I was a renegade/soldier/pain-in-the-ass/shoot-first-ask-questions-later type of character? or will I get stuck with a middle-of-the-road type/blank slate? | |
Why would anybody want to start at the top? Isn't that like starting a game with the final credits? | |
You need to freakin start from scratch, that it what makes it fun. Its a new game, so new start. Its not DLC people. Whats the point of playing a game thats not challenging because you start off already beefed up. Theres no accomplishments and nothing new, making the game repetitive if you use one awesome skill you had in the first one on every baddie throught the entire game. | |
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Starting Over With Commander Shepard
Commander Shepard, hero of the Citadel and savior of the galaxy, is going to find himself somewhat less capable at the start of Mass Effect 2 than he was at the end of the first game, as his abilities are reset to accommodate the game's new systems.
The question of what to do with characters in sequels who, thanks to their past exploits should be virtual superheroes, is one that has long plagued developers. Most take the easy way out by either ignoring the matter entirely or coming up with some lame contrivance to explain why the hero has been dialed back to "chump" status but with players able to import their own personal Commander Shepards into the upcoming Mass Effect 2, it appeared that perhaps BioWare had come up with a better solution to the problem.
Apparently not. In an interview with Computerworld, producer Casey Hudson says Shepard's abilities will be reset to a more basic level, although he promised the change would make sense within the context of the story. "There's something that's happening with the story that explains what happens with your abilities. It's something we can't go into detail about for obvious reasons, but it actually happens the other way around," he said. "Our goal with the story, in terms of getting the game started quickly and players into really compelling story situations... that dictated and allowed us to do certain things including changing the way that your abilities work and the way you develop your character."
Part of the reason for the reset, he noted, was the sheer number of changes to "every system in the game," from character stats and inventory system to weapons, combat and other functions. "All of those things have been dramatically improved, so there's no direct way to map the stuff you had in Mass Effect over to Mass Effect 2 anyway," he added.
"That said, we're taking into account all of your accomplishments in terms of building a character from the first game. So things you'd expect to be acknowledged, like if you were a level 60 character, or you were highly Renegade and don't want to start out at the middle again," he continued. "If you import your save game from Mass Effect, these kinds of things will be acknowledged in ways that map across to the new system. You will feel, even in terms of the character that you build, that you are continuing as that character."
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