Yea.....

I thought MS would have fixed the red ring of death issue by now but nope!

We just got to love MS!

I fucking hate Microsoft, so much.

I had my 360 for like 3 years, and it never broke down on me. I'm the only person I know that's gone half that long...

I still think 54% is too high though. But what're you gonna do, (IMHO) it is the console with the best games going...

Oh, and random side note: My brother's Elite just up and died like yesterday. I laughed at him. Still though, guess it was just luck of the draw that my console lasted that long.

"one of the best warranties" this could mean third best, putting them behind the curve. I love nonsense statements.

Awesome sumuation.

Do more stuff like that in your future articles.

They messed up. I would be messing up if I paid for any Microsoft hardware more complicated than a mouse and should probably have learned enough to buy a logitech mouse next. Lessons learned all round. A real feel good story.

Machines Are Us:
Only an addict can seriously bitch about a week off of their console, it's good for you in many ways, especially if you played it too much like I did.

We should thank Microsoft for being really bad at making consumer electronics because it gives us a chance to interact with their lovely customer service personnel and gives us a nice break from gaming? Please.

i have never had the RROd i have had my xbox 2 years and i really hope i didnt jinx it ima go check now

Hmmm, I'm rather annoyed at the new model.

I got the original xbox (first day and all) and it did crash. (Not RROD, I think all the dust got caught up inside and broke it, as when we opened it after it crapped out it the whole motherboard was THICK with the stuff) I recently got the Arcade and I just put my harddrive in and it's as noisy as hell, and makes making a ratta-ta-ta noise and lagging out. >.> IDK whether it needs a good kick (like my DVD player did) or...It as poorly built being a lower model, so meh. >.<

the 54% is still a bullshit figure, but yea it is preeety bad, microsoft is right though, there extended warrenties, have worked out very well.

Guh, I'm on my 5th 360, but I still love it. Plus repair time is just a couple weeks....
At least I had the opportunity to play Hanger 18 while my 360 died.

Microsoft did it deliberately when they tried to cut production costs after the first year by adding inferior fans, microchip processors, and low cost soldering materials. This is a well-known fact that Microsoft (oh so cleverly) admitted, but side-stepped when they recalled every system from '06 through '08 and replaced with newer models that were basically recreations of '05 models.

As many of you know, I work in a used video game store and I have to tell you, the number of defective '06 through '08 models is staggering, no joke. And it's all pretty consistant: Tard buys cheap system, tard stands it up cuz it looks cooler, tard kicks system over busting soldering, tard overheats system from playing too much Halo and loose hardware connections expand under the constant heat, tard gets RROD and says 'nut mah fult, blim Macriseft'. And so they bring it to me for the $7 deposit where we put in effective soldering, new AV ports, and dvd drive, then sell them for $160.

EDIT: 54.2% makes perfect sense, totally believable.

I never did understand how some people can enjoy a console breaking on them up to 5-6 times. I guess the 360 community just has immense patience. I have to applaud that. I got pissed the first time it happened.

I loved your translation of that statement. If only every company did that.

Microsoft prides itself on its warranties? Well, they are pretty solid, I'll give them that. Good customer support too, though it only seems to extend to anything xbox360. But that's a different story.

Now if only we didn't need to make use of either. That'd be swell.

Oh well, at least they didn't feed us BS this time.

johnman:
I loved your translation of that statement. If only every company did that.

But that would mean all spin doctors would be out of a job. Which means their gardeners, poolboys and whatnot will be too. You'd need to be some kind of monster to want that.

AkJay:
I fucking hate Microsoft, so much.

Who doesn't? Oh wait, the fantards don't.

Also anyone who claims MS's warranties and customer support are superior, regardless of fanboyism or not, I respectfully request you step outside.

Still on my first 360, no problems whatsoever in the year and a half I've been using it. Same with pretty much everyone I know who has it.

Luck of the draw, or people are just exaggerating as usual :p

Did you guys notice they didn't even Question the numbers? maybe they're playing damage control and it's Over 54.4%!
Ive got the 1st wave of Halo 3 xbox, and it only did Red rings twice. And it was just the 'Overheating let me cool down' red rings, not the 'UR SCREWED' red rings. Its never failed to turn on.

Everything Microsoft has made lately has been utter shite.

The new Microsoft Office software is over complicated and difficult to use.
The Xbox 360's hardware is frustratingly prone to catastrophic failure.
Windows Vista has compatability issues with practically everything (including the user) and is basically a rip off of OS-X by Apple. Windows 7 looks to be exactly the same...

Everyone I know who owns a 360 has had the RROD at least once and has had to replace their console. When I sent my 360 to get repaired they fucking lost the thing and I had to wait for 3 months before they declared it lost and sent me a new one. They were more pre-occupied with finding out who was to blame for it being lost (them or the courier).

They got a point I did buy it and there warranty is pretty good, oh well I guess the bright side is that I could have my 5th 360 instead of my 4th.

I RRoD'd once, and they sent me a new one free, so I can't bitch at them. They might have screwed up the start, but they've certainly picked up the pieces pretty well. It's a great console, so with that warranty, it's a pretty solid buy.

slopeslider:
Did you guys notice they didn't even Question the numbers? maybe they're playing damage control and it's Over 54.4%!

Exactly.

Failure rates add up... and over the course of a console's lifespan the probability increases that it will die. Maybe not in the first year, but eventually it will croak. Which means that people who have been playing theirs steady for over 3 years without any hiccups are in the minority.

Capo Taco:
"one of the best warranties" this could mean third best, putting them behind the curve. I love nonsense statements.

George Orwell turning over in his grave makes the world go round.

Cid SilverWing:

AkJay:
I fucking hate Microsoft, so much.

Who doesn't? Oh wait, the fantards don't.

Also anyone who claims MS's warranties and customer support are superior, regardless of fanboyism or not, I respectfully request you step outside.

I am just praying that Windows 7 will restore any shred of dignity in them, so far, I've heard good things about it.

see the BIG problem here is that they keep releasing slightly tweaked models and not a good one they should devote more time into just working on it and fixing it then releasing a big fixed console instead of us CONSTANTLY having to send ours back to get a new one that will break for a different reason because they only fixed the reason it broke the first time

Echolocating:

slopeslider:
Did you guys notice they didn't even Question the numbers? maybe they're playing damage control and it's Over 54.4%!

Exactly.

Failure rates add up... and over the course of a console's lifespan the probability increases that it will die. Maybe not in the first year, but eventually it will croak. Which means that people who have been playing theirs steady for over 3 years without any hiccups are in the minority.

Whether them ignoring it proves that the Game Informer stat is accurate is hard to say, but what I think it does indicate is that the true number is not pretty. Even if it were 33%, far better than 54%, you're not going to see them come out and say "That number is a lie." Because then they'd be asked to prove it with the real number, which they're plenty reluctant to dole out.

It'd be like countering accusations that you slept with your sibling by offering sex with a first cousin as an alibi.

As far as failure rates always being on the rise, I would wonder how you effectively rate that. Is it failure within 3 years? Failure within expected life-span? All things fail eventually. One of my favorite quotes... "On a long enough time scale, the survival rate drops to zero," seems apt, but saying that all consumer items eventually reach a 100% fail rate doesn't really help in comparing them. Seems like a far better stat would be "average lifespan before failure", or "percentage of failures covered under warranty."

AkJay:
I am just praying that Windows 7 will restore any shred of dignity in them, so far, I've heard good things about it.

I've been using it for the last... 6 or so months, and I've quite enjoyed it. I never had Vista, so I can't be a good source for comparison, but Windows 7 has been a pleasure.

LeonHellsvite:
see the BIG problem here is that they keep releasing slightly tweaked models and not a good one they should devote more time into just working on it and fixing it then releasing a big fixed console instead of us CONSTANTLY having to send ours back to get a new one that will break for a different reason because they only fixed the reason it broke the first time

Unless you've got access to data that I haven't heard of, what's to say that they haven't already released one that fixes most of the issues, and brings the failure rate going forward more in line with the average for consumer electronics?

*EDIT* to avoid double-posting