I'm sure Sony has some juggernaut lawyers who smooth things over.

Serves them right. They could "at least" test the firmwire update to see if it works.

Hm, well at least i can take this as it not being worse then the RRoD, but on a less fanboy note, Sony made a mistake, as long as they fix it, i won't lose too much respect for Sony.

VincentX3:
Serves them right. They could "at least" test the firmwire update to see if it works.

A small company, with limited resources I can see them not fully testing an update.

Sony I am sure tested the crap out of that update. Not everyone has the same version of firmware they are updating from, the problem may lie in the fact that someone is updating from a very old version, rather then the tested newer version. They may not have tested with all the programs a user is likely to have. They may not have also tested with every single version of every component part they used. I am sure that this mammoth sized company at least did normal testing.

Spirultima:
Hm, well at least i can take this as it not being worse then the RRoD, but on a less fanboy note, Sony made a mistake, as long as they fix it, i won't lose too much respect for Sony.

They haven't fixed it, and the only solution they have offered so far is for the effected people to send in their PS3's and pay a repair cost. Hence the lawsuit, which may actually be a little out of hand as they have tried to release a fixed update, and the $150 repair cost might be before word filtered down to the people on the phones that this was Sonys fault, and the customer should not have to pay for it.

Casual Shinji:
I'm sure Sony has some juggernaut lawyers who smooth things over.

Made me think of Juggernaught in a business suit holding case papers.

lol.

Seriously though you are right, the company will smooth things over.

have microsoft been sued for RROD? seriously i dont know. anyway i hope they are.

Not surprising, you can't force an update on someone, break the console in the process then turn around and say they owe you $150 without expecting some kind of backlash.

Now to wait for the Nintendo one when they refuse to repair someone's 'modded' console...

Spirultima:
Hm, well at least i can take this as it not being worse then the RRoD, but on a less fanboy note, Sony made a mistake, as long as they fix it, i won't lose too much respect for Sony.

To be fair to Sony, they released a fix for it pretty quick (like you said). To be unfair to Sony, they should of tested it beforehand and this is their fault.

Surely this is an equivalent to the RRoD (ignoring the ridiculous failure rate)? I mean, these are both complete hardware failures.

I'm sure they've got enough money in the piggy-bank to settle this over without too much damage though.

All I know is that half my games haven't worked since 3.0 came out and I'm getting a touch tired of it. With Sony they will sit and deny the problem until they are blue in the face while trying to charge for repairs that don't fix the problem.

JoshGod:
have microsoft been sued for RROD? seriously i dont know. anyway i hope they are.

They haven't and won't be, they pre-empted the lawsuits by extending the warranty to cover the repairs for it as opposed to trying to charge for them. Hell, they even pay shipping.

Hmm...yet again we see the superiority of PC gaming? I know my rig inside and out and have personally done every ounce of construction and installation of software. I think that this knowledge allows me to more properly patch and update to my personal needs. I can also fix driver and software compatibility issues extremely quickly because of this first hand knowledge. Console gamers seem to be regarded as non-thinking wallets who are at the mercy of the hardware and software developers.

Hey,guys at Sony! This just in: you have millions of users,and a great responsibility!

No,seriously. Couldn't they just test it extensively? In war,redundancy is your friend,even if it's console war.

mattag08:
Console gamers seem to be regarded as non-thinking wallets who are at the mercy of the hardware and software developers.

Wrong. Correct would be: "Some console gamers seem to be regarded as non-thinking wallets who are at the mercy of the hardware and software developers.".

Marq:
I've never before seen a console generation with so many fatal flaws. It's appalling. And despite all this bricking, criticism of PC elitism is at an all-time high.

I reall makes me sad.

Thought I dont think elitism is a flaw in itself if its true. What makes it better is if my PC bricks I know who did it. (ME) I also know who is going to fix it. (ME) No selfimportant lawsuits that actually hurt everyone.

They're suing Sony over a problem that's already fixed?

Whyyyyyyyy?

manaman:

VincentX3:
Serves them right. They could "at least" test the firmwire update to see if it works.

A small company, with limited resources I can see them not fully testing an update.

Uhh... a small company? And of course they have limited resources, who doesn't?

manaman:

VincentX3:
Serves them right. They could "at least" test the firmwire update to see if it works.

A small company, with limited resources I can see them not fully testing an update.

Sony I am sure tested the crap out of that update. Not everyone has the same version of firmware they are updating from, the problem may lie in the fact that someone is updating from a very old version, rather then the tested newer version. They may not have tested with all the programs a user is likely to have. They may not have also tested with every single version of every component part they used. I am sure that this mammoth sized company at least did normal testing.

i'm not totally sure how the firmware updates but as far as i can tell, it doesn't matter the older version you have, ie it's not incremental, so the whatever version of firmware you have doesn't matter when you do an update. i'd like to see the issue with those being affected, it could have been some odd chipset or something that caused it or maybe even some mod the person did to the board, which i think would make it funnier

i don't think this case will go too far

Well the update did make my PS3 act funny too. I'm too scared to turn it on and play now.
>.<

Trotgar:

manaman:

VincentX3:
Serves them right. They could "at least" test the firmwire update to see if it works.

A small company, with limited resources I can see them not fully testing an update.

Uhh... a small company? And of course they have limited resources, who doesn't?

Did you read the next paragraph? Where Sony was listed as a mammoth sized company? I would think not as you took just the first line and commented on it. I was saying I could see a small company having problems with actually testing. Sony however I am sure did test the update and it must have passed or it would not be released. There is no way the update would be just released. Anyone at Sony could see how stupid that would be. As for as limited resources go, yeah if you want to take it literal everyone has limited resources, but I was trying to make a comparison against a buisness with a 3 man team to crank out software versus Sony.

Naturalized:
Wait what?

This is the first I've ever heard of it.

Same here my system updated fine zero issues but I never owned Uncharted but it's the "One" game I ever heard had an issue after the update. but freezing happened before for me but only rarely on certain games with alot of effects/loading like inFAMOUS or Fallout 3.

All of these consoles and their firmware updates offering "cool, new, awesome things" are truly just attempts to stop pirating. As soon as someone hacks a system, an update is released to try to stop them. It's honestly a waste of time and effort, and screw-ups like this tend to happen, which make the whole and larger waste of time and effort.

manaman:

Trotgar:

manaman:

VincentX3:
Serves them right. They could "at least" test the firmwire update to see if it works.

A small company, with limited resources I can see them not fully testing an update.

Uhh... a small company? And of course they have limited resources, who doesn't?

Did you read the next paragraph? Where Sony was listed as a mammoth sized company? I would think not as you took just the first line and commented on it. I was saying I could see a small company having problems with actually testing. Sony however I am sure did test the update and it must have passed or it would not be released. There is no way the update would be just released. Anyone at Sony could see how stupid that would be. As for as limited resources go, yeah if you want to take it literal everyone has limited resources, but I was trying to make a comparison against a buisness with a 3 man team to crank out software versus Sony.

Ok, but it could've well been sarcasm. And I'm sure they tested it, it would be utterly stupid to not to.

And the resource thing was kind of a joke. And Sony is, of course, a rich company.

cleverlymadeup:

manaman:
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i'm not totally sure how the firmware updates but as far as i can tell, it doesn't matter the older version you have, ie it's not incremental, so the whatever version of firmware you have doesn't matter when you do an update. i'd like to see the issue with those being affected, it could have been some odd chipset or something that caused it or maybe even some mod the person did to the board, which i think would make it funnier

i don't think this case will go too far

Not usually no, it does not matter on things if the previous firmware updates where done. That does not mean it is always the case.

I am betting that they have made slight revisions to most of the components over time, and that this major overhaul is having some conflicts with various older versions of some of the components in the older PS3's.

I am off the opinion that a person should be able to modify the hardware they own as they see fit. The fact that this update was forced on the people without their consent would mean that if the update did brick the PS3's with modifications then it should still be Sony's responsibility to fix it. If the customer had the choice then it would not be Sony's fault if they went ahead with the update and ruined their PS3.

Hm... My Ps3 lost it's online-capabilities from the last firmware update. Which sucks, since then I can't even download any patches for it...

Spirultima:
Hm, well at least i can take this as it not being worse then the RRoD, but on a less fanboy note, Sony made a mistake, as long as they fix it, i won't lose too much respect for Sony.

It totally is worse right now though. Microsoft at least admits to the RRoD and replaces your xbox for free when it happens. My best friend has a ps3, he just had to pay $80 plus shipping ot get this problem fixed when it happened. That's fucking awful to charge your customer for your mistake.

I didn't find too many problems with my 3.0 yeah sure a lot of things changed but I can still play games and such nothing changed from what I normally do.

EDIT: though PSP update 6.0 was a very good one if I do say so myself and its close followup (only adding SensMe) was a nice little addition