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Modern Warfare 2 Trailer Criticized For "Going Too Far"

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Beat Writer
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Certainly not. The MW2 campaign is looking to be a stellar experience and if that's how they're driving the story so be it. I'll certainly be enjoying it on the 10/11/09; no matter what some over sensitive group says.

Gone Gonzo
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Hmm. Quite an overreaction, methinks. If the developers had put words onscreen during shots of the wreckage that said "We want this to happen NAO," I might sympathize with this man somewhat, but this game's story is purely fictional. Come on.

I wonder what this guy thought of the Statue of Liberty in Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2.

Press Junketeer
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Oh no! A game has gone against America's Hollywood-built image on invulnerability!
I don't see this guy complaining about all the games set in South America, Europe, Russia and anywhere else Christian I havn't mentioned.

Woodsey:
So it's alright for mass carnage to take place as long as it's in some shanty town then?

Hypocritical nob head.

Agreed.

Infamous Scribbler
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cyber_andyy:
What about nuking Seattle or Air striking the Statue of liberty in WiC.

Bandwagon much?

Damn, Ninjad. I've lost track how many times I've nuked the Space Needle or the Statue of Liberty.

OT: Going to far? ahh Blasperry. The trailer was amazing and poured more excitement in to my already overfilled expectations bucket.

Though if Activision/IW delayes the PC-version, there will be a lot of unneccesary bloodshed. Grr

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Woodsey:
So it's alright for mass carnage to take place as long as it's in some shanty town then?

Hypocritical nob head.

I'd pretty much agree with this. How come everything's hunky dory until beloved America gets it's hair fractured? It's fine to show 'made up' country Iraqistan taking a pummeling from missiles, but as soon as it's in Washington we're all supposed to throw a hissy fit over it?

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j0z:

And besides, would it be a big loss if DC blew up?

Nothing of value would be lost, no.

Muckraker
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I would expect that the player is going to be fighting to PROTECT the city. Not actively taking part in its destruction, how is that a bad thing?

That imagery definitely cuts deep; and it is well done.

Gone Gonzo
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So wait, it's okay to depict a different state manor in flames and ruin, so long as it's not the good ol' USA? And what about Fallout 3?

Ugh, I hate the people in my country sometimes

Paperboy
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Honestly I hate this sort of hypocrisy. It's okay to slaughter Spaniards in RE4 but you start shooting Africans in RE5 and you're all a bunch of racists. You start blowing up Las Vegas, it's all in good fun. Turn your attention to DC and you're just going to far! Seriously if that had an actual credible name on the lable I'd be more interested but once I read "Christian Science" my mind blanks out and I just go on with my day.

Gone Gonzo
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Why did he have to mention Eastern Europe? Why not just mention a fictional town? Why does it have to be a fictional Eastern European town? Is it ok to blow up Eastern Europeans but not Americans because Eastern Europeans are primitive and thus it's ok to blow them to hell?

His comment is full of shit.

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mrfft:
Too far? No, people just want to censor any and all media they don't like.

Hits a little close to home? Ever read "Sum of All Fears" by Tom Clancy? Old book, similar results to DC.

People need to grow some thicker skin.

there was even a movie based on the book and nobody cried then either

Muckraker
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So its all fun and games if we get to kill people in iraq, errr I mean some unnamed country in the middle east, but when the action comes to your door step then the fun stops? I think this is a cool twist (although I wish they kept it as a hidden plot twist) but it is cool to be able to see DC up in flames and have the US be the underdog for once.

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Yeah, there's never been a game with such wanton destruction of American cities.

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MoganFreeman:
actively taking part in its destruction.

Oh, that would be wonderful.

Press Junketeer
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To paraphrase Yahtzee: "What arbitrary siliness"

Copy Clerk
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ummm... H.A.W.X. End War, Red Alert 2, Fallout 3...
They all destroyed D.C.

But! Movies are o.k.;
just look at Independence Day

The Christian Science Monitor is a bunch
of jerks who just don't give a hunch
about anyone who has a brain.
this fact, it is plain.

Copy Clerk
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Ironically the fictional victim's message of "perhaps you cannot hear because the soil is not your own" is 100% with this guy.

Gone Gonzo
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Moron.

When it's Iraq being blown to shit, that's ok. But you drop a missile on America and you've gone to far? Utter shite.

Paperboy
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I've gotta agree with the Germans here: they've seen Berlin burned, exploded, downtrodden and otherwise mistreated in dozens of games (COD World at War among them). As an American, this doesn't upset me much: games are about living in a fantasy, and this fantasy of a devastated DC is entirely plausible. The concept is much less important than how it's handled, and in COD's case, that could either mean a gunwank or a studied depiction of the horrors of war. Where everyone uses "hoo-ah" as a comma.

Copy Clerk
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Bah this pearson is a idiot why does he call it that D.C. burning is a bad thing. If this is really that bad then when ther hell was he when this was in irak, afganistan in there main city.

I am not a american, but if he can complante about his than hell everyone could complain for 10 years back (or more).

Gone Gonzo
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Guys, guys, can't you see that it's completely wrong to show Americans being killed on American soil? I mean, it's not a foreign country, those are human beings we're talking about!

Copy Clerk
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Wait a minute. What purpose does "The Christian Science Monitor" have? How self-centered do you have to be to think that YOUR OWN RELIGION needs to have science served in an easier to understand format?

Gone Gonzo
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I don't think that its too much, but then I don't live there... I think that it is OK though, its not like its a real possability in the next few years, we all hope.

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Christian Science Monitor, nuff said. It if was a christian beating up a jew, would it have garnered praise from them?

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cobaltfram:
Where everyone uses "hoo-ah" as a comma.

I dunno if you made that up or if you're quoting someone else but that's genius. +1 for you sir.

Copy Clerk
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So its ok for a middle eastern town that no ones heard of to get blown up, but as soon as its DC, there all up in arm's.

This is why I hate religion, and these types of American's.

Press Junketeer
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Well, on topic, I'm gonna say he's just not that familiar with games, as he only referenced GTA and MW2. 2 absosutely HUGE games, while ignoring all the other games that people have metioned. Moving swiftly away from the topic, that was the first time I saw that trailer, and upon seeing the Washington Monument in ruins, my jaw dropped and I stopped breathing briefly whilst wondering who I could possibly spread the news to. Wow, that's gonna be awesome.

Gone Gonzo
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Andrew Heining of the Christian Science Monitor needs to take his head out of his arse, so what just because it's your country it's wrong, I would love to play a game that would let me fight in the burning ruble of the houses of parliament or something similar.

Malygris:
But Fallout 3 was set in the aftermath; only Modern Warfare 2 will, presumably, let you fight in the city as it burns. Is that going too far?
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No it isn't what about in say call of duty world at war fighting in the burning city as the reichstag falls down??? Is that not that dissimilar to what Modern warfare 2 is doing? Only what modern warfare 2 is doing is fictional.

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Yes, most Americans know this is stupid. No using the, "Americans are stupid" racist gem, Americans generally see the bullshit here. In fact, I will go so far as to say the exact opposite: It's rather patriotic to show a brave protagonist fighting the forces of evil in justified defense. In fact, its COMMON to do so. Look at, "Independence Day". Sorry CSM, but its been a while since we were so easily duped with aggressively saying, "9/11", and then doing whatever the hell you wanted.

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I'm an American and I don't think it's going to far. In fact I admire IW for going in that direction. It would be, in my opinion, hypocritical to bomb Eastern European cities to hell and actually having a nuke detonated in the Middle East yet refuse to show America receiving a similar military based attack/invasion.
If the trailer had shown an airplane purposefully flown into a building, be it White House, Pentagon, Empire State or any other iconic American structure for the sole purpose of killing as many non-combatants as possible, then that would be going to far.

Gone Gonzo
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Shall I point out that inevitably the American forces will band together, probably with their allies like in the first Modern Warfare, and defeat their enemies before rebuilding stronger than ever?

People don't want anything but the status quo these days. And if you want to make fun/blow up something, it damn well better be someone ELSE. Or else.

I will send cookies to IW for taking the status quo and blowing it straight to hell along with Washington D.C.

Gone Gonzo
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Amnestic:
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Yeah, there's never been a game with such wanton destruction of American cities.

You have been put on probation for 'homosexuality', nice wording there!

OT: Fair point about Deafcon, but that is a bit less well advertised...

Gone Gonzo
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poncho14:
What would he say if it was say, London burning or other big european countrys.

The rest of the world doesn't care because it has happened to the rest of the world. The reason the US was so shocked about 9/11 was because it was the first real attack they had suffered on their own soil.
I know a fair few of the less-intelligent Americans, and I know the bravado with which they proclaim, "Nuke The Middle East" or "Just shoot them all.". It is quite delicious for me, and many others I'm sure, to see them getting the reality check they've needed for a long time: America is not invincible.

Copy Clerk
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As an American I have my own thoughts of how this will come to pass and will save my own opinion until the game releases and I find out for my self.. but, I really want to see where this is going, my interest is peeked. It looks like something out of a Tom Clancy Novel.

Paperboy
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Put your holier than thou overly patriotic head on the curb, give the nearest bum your wallet and ask him to to stomp you. Then have him write a letter and bitch at independence day, or CNN. Parents try to get their kids to watch whats happening on CNN (which they dont) so a game showing real world conflict shows whats going on

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