wow, really, REALLY *in my awsome really voice, if you knew me it would make sence*, destroying D.C. is too far, well isnt the Mile High Cliub mission on CoD 4 going to far then since its all about terrorists on a plane, AKA 9/11. I don't see the big deal, as someone els said, plenty of games have been based in London and no one gave a shit. Jeez us Americans are really stupid.

kleft101:
People like that annoy me so much, the arrogance of what he is saying, its ok for it to be happening in an Eastern European country but not Washington D.C.!?

It would seem that it's perfectly fine when we people from east Europe (actually south-east in my case) die, we obviously spend all day killing each other all the time anyway (sarcasm). As long as it doesn't happen in the US.

Seriously, Americans need to do something about people like this, no wonder there are so many stereotypes going around...

I don;t think it is wrong to set it in a Washington DC that is being blown apart. I mean we have played games where Berlin and Baghdad are being blown apart in near photo-realism this is just another city to check off the list of photo realistic capitals to fight in.

I also think though that this will hurt Modern Warfare 2. The previous Modern Warfare game was praised for its realistic story that felt like it could really happen, But someone invading Washington DC? that just seams unrealistic and unlikely.

if they are complaining about this i would hate to see what they said about hellgate london

"In the upcoming Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2... the gallant mansion reduced to rubble doesn't belong to some crazed separatist dictator hellbent on all kinds of nefarious acts. Instead, it's the White House,"

Depends. If it's set during the Bush administration then it's the same thing :D

cyber_andyy:
What about nuking Seattle or Air striking the Statue of liberty in WiC.

Bandwagon much?

both of those were prevented in the game though by the players actions. So I think because you protect them the CSM sees that as heroic? CSm is often a little extreme on their views about just about everything.

HAW! I love their logic! "My GOD! It's alright when we show OTHER countries going up in flames, but this is AMERICA DAMNIT! Those colors don't burn!" I might have paraphrased.
Hell the right wing has been doing this for YEARS in book form. I don't remember the series, but there's a book whose tagline is literally "First the Liberals took our guns, then they took our Freedom, now one man fights back!" and it's about some militia group taking back America from an apocalyptic war against the "liberals and punks" (I wish to God I was kidding).

Ph33nix:
I don;t think it is wrong to set it in a Washington DC that is being blown apart. I mean we have played games where Berlin and Baghdad are being blown apart in near photo-realism this is just another city to check off the list of photo realistic capitals to fight in.

I also think though that this will hurt Modern Warfare 2. The previous Modern Warfare game was praised for its realistic story that felt like it could really happen, But someone invading Washington DC? that just seams unrealistic and unlikely.

With guys going around saying that depicting an invasion of Washington D.C. is a step too far... Well, it's more likely than I think some Americans would like to admit.

Amnestic:
Dunno what they're on about. I burned the Whitehouse in Red Alert 2, I slaughtered hundreds of American soldiers. I even kidnapped and mind controlled the President. In fact, I burned pretty much every famous DC landmark. Washington Monument? Rubble. Lincoln Memorial? Trashed. Smithsonian Museum? Little more than dust in the wind of a nuclear explosion that rocked the city.

Also, as someone above said: Why is it okay for books and films to describe crazy 'traumatic' events with the incineration of our cities but when a game does it, suddenly it's 'striking'?

Sorry Mr. CSM, I think you're talking a load of codswallop.

lol one time I did that as the allies in re2 that was so much fun. the destroying the monuments thing. actually i think i got a couple of them 3 times in one campaign...

qwerty15990:
if they are complaining about this i would hate to see what they said about hellgate london

They probably completely ignored Hellgate London, seeing as it's not in the US

Sometime i wish that people which takes video games seriously like these people and makes huge news about it should be smacked in the face. Its a bloody game! Fallout 3's Washington DC was completly burned to the ground aswell and noone complained.

Chipperz:

Ph33nix:
I don;t think it is wrong to set it in a Washington DC that is being blown apart. I mean we have played games where Berlin and Baghdad are being blown apart in near photo-realism this is just another city to check off the list of photo realistic capitals to fight in.

I also think though that this will hurt Modern Warfare 2. The previous Modern Warfare game was praised for its realistic story that felt like it could really happen, But someone invading Washington DC? that just seams unrealistic and unlikely.

With guys going around saying that depicting an invasion of Washington D.C. is a step too far... Well, it's more likely than I think some Americans would like to admit.

well someone getting a foot hold in DC is pretty unlike considering the major bases near DC.

Hardcore_gamer:
Why did he have to mention Eastern Europe? Why not just mention a fictional town? Why does it have to be a fictional Eastern European town? Is it ok to blow up Eastern Europeans but not Americans because Eastern Europeans are primitive and thus it's ok to blow them to hell?

His comment is full of shit.

He probably thinks every city and town over there looks like Prypiat. What a poor, misguided loon.

OT- Now I just might buy this game. I liked the biblical reference, and the graphics looked well done. Then again, it's a trailer, so that's just the best stuff in there...

Ph33nix:

Chipperz:

Ph33nix:
I don;t think it is wrong to set it in a Washington DC that is being blown apart. I mean we have played games where Berlin and Baghdad are being blown apart in near photo-realism this is just another city to check off the list of photo realistic capitals to fight in.

I also think though that this will hurt Modern Warfare 2. The previous Modern Warfare game was praised for its realistic story that felt like it could really happen, But someone invading Washington DC? that just seams unrealistic and unlikely.

With guys going around saying that depicting an invasion of Washington D.C. is a step too far... Well, it's more likely than I think some Americans would like to admit.

well someone getting a foot hold in DC is pretty unlike considering the major bases near DC.

Hmm. I wonder if gassing the bases in a sneak attack might work. You know, like in the video.

Seems to work. Hell, if it was me, I'd gas the entire city and THEN set up a beachhead. It'd make for a worse game though :P

I have a friend and whenever we play Call of Duty he talks about how awesome it would be to go to war. We are Canadian, but I would imagine their are many American teenagers/young-adults who get the same idea. It's a lot easier to see the glory in war when it's another country that is burning. Hopefully this vivid imagery of American icons being destroyed in such violent ways will help demonstrate that war is no fun, and it is not glorious. Youre glory is anothers' terror. If people could empathetically put themselves in the shoes of those who are being attacked on a day to day basis then maybe, just maybe, our world would be a little kinder.

I get that because of the realism it strikes a bigger chord but didn't ne1 play Turning Point: Fall of Liberty? Not only do you fight on the lawn of and inside of the White House, you get an achievement for disposing of the president. Let me repeat, you get an achievement for murdering the democratically elected president in Turning Point: Fall of Liberty. If that passed everyone by without much of a problem what's the big deal now?

It's okay to show other countries in flames, but if it's in America, it's going too far.

Seriously though, fiction is just that. If the sight of Washington being attacked frightens and disturbs you and immediately makes you think of 9/11, you probably need psychiatric help.

I would say exactly what I always say about these war games, don't play them if you suffer from P.T.S.D. or are a veteran in general. In World at War, there was a warning label upon running the game.

I cannot see how a game like this would NOT make at least somebody feel uncomfortable, but that is only natural, as long as the disclaimers and warning labels are clearly presented, then the consumer is the one whom becomes liable for blame, rather than the gaming company itself.

Oh, and also the key word "MAY" in the heading "May be going to far", should be noticed. Something like this shouldn't provoke such a hateful reaction in the first place.

In a game (franchise) where the setting is supposed to be modern day with current gen weapons and conflicts, a firefight in war torn Washington DC is a shark jump. There is no way that current day politics and warfare would ever make it across the freaking ocean the the DC doorstep unless it was mutually assured destruction contingencies put into play by both Russia and the US. I highly doubt there would be anyone running about outdoors within miles of ground zero if that were the case.

It would hardly be possible for a terrorist group to get a military presence large enough to actually pose a serious threat to US militia forces let alone the actual Army on US soil. Can you even imagine the logistics? This is supposed to be real modern combat not fairy tale terrorist tunnel diggers who somehow managed to burrow through the earth's crust and come up under DC. It's a "shocking twist" without the twist and the shock deriving from the audacity to use this as leverage to sell something everyone was gonna buy anyways.

They might as well have added motion control for boob juggling to push sales. Oh wait someone's already done that. Damn I guess they just HAD to blow up Washington then.

/rant

I believe the appropriate response here would be, "CRY SUM MOAR!"

And he didn't complain about Fallout 3?

the only thing i thought when i saw DC burning was, mabey the story is going too far

You know, some of the responses in this thread are just as ridiculous as this guy's article.

In fact, some of them are a little worse.

Oh please, DC not to mention alot of other american cities get bombed to fuck during HAWX. I even bomb the cities for lulz. Loads of games have had major citys bombed and fought in. I dont see why Cod:mw2 should be any diffrent, its just the media being bitches to get a story imo.

Oh my God, the capital being destroyed is not new by any stretch of the imagination. Why are people do f**king sensitive and whiny? If you don't like it, don't watch it, don't buy it. And above all DON'T trample all over my free speach and right of expresion.

People just need to STFU.

There is a school near where I live that for 20 years the chearleaders have held up a banner that usually had a bible passage on it and the football team would run through it. One persone called to complain about it, and they forced them to stop.

There is a national park in California that has a cross dedicated to the memory of fallen soldiers in WW1, it has been there for 70 years. One person complained and they now have it covered in plywood.

Yeah, repressing religious experssion is not exactly the same as repression artistic expression, but you get my drift. STOP BEING WHINY OVERLY SENSITIVE PRICKS, PEOPLE.

Sorry if that was ranty, but this is just getting re-god-damn-diculous.

Pfft trust them to bring up 9/11. Its a game and they are being far too quick to judge.

Chipperz:

Ph33nix:

Chipperz:

Ph33nix:
I don;t think it is wrong to set it in a Washington DC that is being blown apart. I mean we have played games where Berlin and Baghdad are being blown apart in near photo-realism this is just another city to check off the list of photo realistic capitals to fight in.

I also think though that this will hurt Modern Warfare 2. The previous Modern Warfare game was praised for its realistic story that felt like it could really happen, But someone invading Washington DC? that just seams unrealistic and unlikely.

With guys going around saying that depicting an invasion of Washington D.C. is a step too far... Well, it's more likely than I think some Americans would like to admit.

well someone getting a foot hold in DC is pretty unlike considering the major bases near DC.

Hmm. I wonder if gassing the bases in a sneak attack might work. You know, like in the video.

Seems to work. Hell, if it was me, I'd gas the entire city and THEN set up a beachhead. It'd make for a worse game though :P

i missed the gassing the bases...

Fun game idea: You're in an airplane, loaded with explosives. You can fly around above whatever american city it was as had the twin towers (washington? new york?) and fly around until you're ready to crash into the twin towers. You have to time it just right so that you hit as the planted explosives are detonated, so that it looks as if the plane did the damage.

Lol I think they are forgetting about Fallout 3 which was set in DC fair enough it was not burning but the white house was more destroyed than in this trailer but I dont give two shits either way.

ZahrDalsk:
Fun game idea: You're in an airplane, loaded with explosives. You can fly around above whatever american city it was as had the twin towers (washington? new york?) and fly around until you're ready to crash into the twin towers. You have to time it just right so that you hit as the planted explosives are detonated, so that it looks as if the plane did the damage.

Nice that sounds familliar tho it may have been takin.

Well, i jizzed in my pants. I suppose that's going a bit too far.

Amnestic:

Yeah, there's never been a game with such wanton destruction of American cities.

that was a fun game, too bad I lost it

Ph33nix:
i missed the gassing the bases...

OK, I was thinking of the bit at 1.12 when it goes silent, but on yet another watch it looks like they might just be psyching themselves up for going into the battleground.

I still say gassing D.C. is a good idea, just to shut up everyone who's convinced that America is somehow immune to attack.

Ignoring the fact that the inherent interest goes up when set in a recognizable location (and therefore sells better), I want to approach this from the opposite angle: What's wrong with it?

Is it 'disrespectful' or 'insensitive' to show in a video game what could very well happen in real life? Terrorists aside, both Russia and China have the resources and manpower (if not the brass tacks [for now]) to initiate something like that.

9/11 hit us at our core, so did Pearl Harbor and maybe I'm taking a video game a bit to far but I don't see a problem with it depicting the possible, even if it's not the comfortable.

poncho14:
What would he say if it was say, London burning or other big european countrys.

It happened before, remember Resistance or Hellgate London?

Only the Chuch of England had anything to say about that....