JediMB:
Personally I'd love to play a game that took place in a post-apocalyptic (or just plain apocalyptic :P) version of my home town.

So would I, I'd love going around to all the various destroyed landmarks. :P

To steal a line from CCP's rap, the Christian Science Monitor needs to "harden the fuck up."

Really, who cares what this guy thinks?
Any event of destruction on the scale depicted in the trailer is horrible. It doesn't matter who it happens to.
This guy is just overreacting. Screaming at him isn't going to do anything, and will probably only make people even madder.

DVSAurion:
And no form of entertainment has never ever blown up American cities at all. I am stunned by the sickness of the developers. They must have serious issues with their life for playing and developing video games.

Wait, what? Are you saying the developers are sick because they never depict America getting blown up? (something which happens quite a lot in entertainment media) Or is this sarcasm? (maybe I'm dumb)

I think he's being sarcastic ygetoff. I'm going to leave it up to him to confirm though.

war is war why would one city being destroyed be different than any other? what makes D.C. so special that it cant be touched? I say go for it, it could create a very compelling story. And btw, its a STORY! not real.

Ugh, bloody patriotism.

I mean, holy hell, why is it so bad that American soil is being assaulted? Isn't the whole point of the MW series story is that it is clever social commentary? Or something like that?

Also, the game appears to be wearing the CoD title. Damn, I was hoping this would spring its own franchise. Grr...

hahahahahaha, right-wing christians make me laugh more than any comedian out there. Even the name is almost an oxymoron.

Aww, the widdle Christians can't take a little carnage?

Fuck 'em. I've never cared about the opinions of any group that aren't actually gamers, and I never will. Let the virtual world burn for our enjoyment!

Wait what? Europe is fictional?

Having loosely followed the Christian Faith for most of my life, when I saw the trailer I thought to myself "shit some Christians are gonna be pissed off about a Bible story being used to promote a video game containing violence" Then I saw this headline and couldn't believe it, Seriously? Cities in the United States get blown up in all sorts of media be it Movie, Book, or Video Game and you get pissed off about this one.

Since I live in the United States I had a sort of patriotic moment when I saw that "Yes another video game where I actually get to fight and defend something I care about instead of gallivanting around the world chasing people I don't give a fuck about"

My two cents, can't wait for the game

so if we blow up some town in the middle east its fine but now that the U.S is in it in suddenly bad
god at times i hate being American >.<

I like how he's okay with a Russian city being destroyed, but if that glorified monopoly house bites it... whoooooooooooo-boooooooooy!

"In the upcoming Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2... the gallant mansion reduced to rubble doesn't belong to some crazed separatist dictator hellbent on all kinds of nefarious acts. Instead, it's the White House," he wrote. "The scenes of post-apocalyptic scenes of carnage play out not in some fictional town in eastern Europe, but in Washington D.C. itself."

Is it just me, or if that argument were made by the MAKER of the game, it would be a positive? I mean, that seems a lot more compelling. It's why Fallout 3 (which was made after 9/11 and showed and discribed not only a nuclear weapon exploding over the white house, but the result of 250 years of detritus and debris after an apocalyptic war in washrington DC) was so good

Putting your show (movies and television do it all the time too, so I'll say show rather then game) into a real place that holds a lot of meaning to a lot of people and then destroying that place isn't an attempt to spit on the meaning.. it's a way to bring people further into the experience because it's a recognizable landmark.. If it was just some busted up bunker of some unreal dictator, I wouldn't care at all.. but the white house? that makes me want to play the game, and not because I want to masturbate on the burning american flag, but rather because the story just got interesting? Will the americans overcome and throw back the enemy? probably, but I'm sure there are plenty of twists to keep me interested, and a ruined white house is a damn good hook.

Because blowing up Eastern European cities is fine? oO I didn't hear them complaining when MW contained a nuke exploding in the Middle East.

I think it's obvious the point MW2 is attempting to make has been missed by a mile - firstly, considering the fact that we're going to be avenging the catastrophe in DC, and, secondly, that MW2, like its prequel, is no doubt trying to make a point about the horror and futility of war, and the consequences of it. But, then, expecting anti-video game crusaders to realise that video games actually have this little thing called depth is like expecting grizzly bears to make friends with the salmon.

Too far... OR NOT FAR ENOUGH!?!?!?!?
...seriously. What's wrong with blowing up DC? It's been done before... a lot. and it's a videogame... I don't see why they're making a big deal of this.

While on topic of the trailer, is there a name for the song used or was it just made for the trailer?

gRiM_rEaPeRsco:
"Christian Science Monitor"?? not too long ago christians murdered hundreds of scientists most of who were devout christians.

Thank you Dan Brown. How about something relevant to the topic now that you did not just learn from Angels and Demons?

Personally, I have no problem with this, and living in Virginia i am about as close to D.C. as you can get without actually being there. I just think that some people just like to complain and put up a fuss because they want to be talked about. I do not think people feel that reliving the attack on Pearl Harbor, D-Day, or any other significant conflict is going too far but we have been doing that for a long time. I am just glad that people are headed in new directions.

Would you expect anything less from Christian organization?

So much for freedom of speech

Ultra-nationalism hooray! People need to realize games are an art form, and this form of art weaves a story of WHAT IF... not LETS GO DO THIS. It seems as though who are not familiar with gaming fail to understand that games are not always straight forward. COD will certainly not mandate players to destory DC, but defend it. Critics need to actually know what they are talking about before they open their mouths (see fox news/mass effect)

j0z:
All of America was in ruins in all of Fallout games, with the player actually in a pretty accurate (post-apocalyptic) Washington DC. I can't tell you how many times I have destroyed America in the Civilization games (I like playing as the Romans and Germans).
Numerous strategy games have conflicts in America, WiC, EndWar, Red Alert, etc.
And besides, would it be a big loss if DC blew up?

Hard to say, we've had times when the capital shut down due to the budget not being passed, and I didn't see the country going kablooey over it. I'm strongly jaded against politicians right now, so I do like to think that we have the ability to carry on in the absence of a central power. It won't necessarily be easy, or without sacrifices, but it can be done. But not if we keep pretending like 9/11 never happened.
With that said, CSM needs to put a sock in it. We've had 8 years now to recover, and it's time we stop putting our heads in the sand. The world we live in today is not safe, with governments all around shaking their gauntlets. I'd just as soon see a game featuring our capital being attacked, with the opportunity to fight back against the instigators and shove them back into the ocean. Might be a good time for one movie remake: Invasion USA.

Goddammmit, should've heeded the spoiler warning. Oh, well, that fight in DC's gonna be epic. I've always wanted a war game that didn't suck to take place here.
BTW, that guy is sort of overreacting, but at least he's not trying to get the game banned.

Caliostro:

Malygris:

The Christian Science Monitor [...]

Aaaaaaaand, I stopped caring here.

It's kind of like posing a highly difficult quantum physics problem to a 3rd grade "special needs" class and expecting anything useful to come out of it...

Same here, besides I don't remember anyone sobbing when Fallout 3 came out.

badgersprite:
Because blowing up Eastern European cities is fine? oO I didn't hear them complaining when MW contained a nuke exploding in the Middle East.
I think it's obvious the point MW2 is attempting to make has been missed by a mile - firstly, considering the fact that we're going to be avenging the catastrophe in DC, and, secondly, that MW2, like its prequel, is no doubt trying to make a point about the horror and futility of war, and the consequences of it. But, then, expecting anti-video game crusaders to realise that video games actually have this little thing called depth is like expecting grizzly bears to make friends with the salmon.

They do try to make friends, inviting them to dinner every mealtime. :D
You make a good defense of the storyline of the game (at least that is what does seem apparent in the trailer). What makes this guy at CSM react is we have been getting too much into isolationism the past 8 years. It is time we realize we are part of the world again, and still just as much vulnerable as any other country and city in the world. I have my doubts this guy has ever been outside of the country, especially to Europe, so his point is even more invalid. I still got my faith. But anymore these days, religion is for the birds.

So wait...some christian organization is unhappy about something?

I want to be shocked...but I just can't muster the emotion.

Also...few things sound funnier beside one another than "Christian Science" but I'm assuming it is an organization by christians that monitors science to make sure it doesn't go doing anything sciency.

So what he's saying is that if the city was filled with Towel-headed Pakis or ridciouslously accented russians, it would be fine, that's just a part of life?

Hell, the trailer even mentions 'You don't know what it's like until it's in your back yard'.

Squid94:
Urgh... Can't do anything in this world anymore without someone complaning about it.

It's a story, and it's not likely to happen, unless shit goes down, which it wont. If anything, we'll just end in another Cold War for a while, until agreements have been made.

The fact is, any country with the recourses to sucsessfully invade the US has more to gain by allying beside it, and any country that doesn't is going to repelled at the first step.

There's always the nuclear options, but I'm under the impression that IW want to write a NEW story, not just update the first Modern Warfare.

mrfft:
Too far? No, people just want to censor any and all media they don't like.

Hits a little close to home? Ever read "Sum of All Fears" by Tom Clancy? Old book, similar results to DC.

People need to grow some thicker skin.

But D.C. didn't get nuked, it was Denver during the Super Bowl if I remember correctly. But you're right in premise, people take things too seriously sometimes.

OT: This has happened in so many games before, that this shouldn't be an issue. Please quit taking things so seriously Christain Magazine something or other, you're embarasing yourself. And besides, why are Christians complaining about D.C. being hit, after all, many residents of D.C. are somewhat anti-Christain.

And I know this will infuriate people, but honestly, FOX news is about as skewered as CNN or MSNBC(yes, they do still exist), just in the opposite direction. There is no such thing as objective news, because people report it and write the scripts for the voice overs, and people, no matter how decent, still have opinions, and sometimes, people think that their opinions are facts. That is called bias, everybody has it. Not just Fox news.

I don't get what the fuss is about. It's not like you're the one blowing up DC, in fact you're protecting it.

300lb. Samoan:
The imagery is definitely striking, but the CSM author is over-reacting. I don't see why it would be more acceptable to depict "some fictional town in eastern Europe" as a bombed out wasteland, perhaps because that imagery isn't pulling on your American heartstrings?

Its very hypocritical to say that its alright to depict a small European town being attacked is ok but not the US.

Anyways, I can't think of anything more badass than fighting off terrorists in your own countries capital and fight through monuments and whatnot just too kick some terrorist ass on homeland!

OORAH!

The King of Rock and Roll:

mrfft:
Too far? No, people just want to censor any and all media they don't like.

Hits a little close to home? Ever read "Sum of All Fears" by Tom Clancy? Old book, similar results to DC.

People need to grow some thicker skin.

But D.C. didn't get nuked, it was Denver during the Super Bowl if I remember correctly. But you're right in premise, people take things too seriously sometimes.

i dont remember independence day getting in trouble and they frikkin wrecked the place

mrfft:

The King of Rock and Roll:

mrfft:
Too far? No, people just want to censor any and all media they don't like.

Hits a little close to home? Ever read "Sum of All Fears" by Tom Clancy? Old book, similar results to DC.

People need to grow some thicker skin.

But D.C. didn't get nuked, it was Denver during the Super Bowl if I remember correctly. But you're right in premise, people take things too seriously sometimes.

Spoiler: Click to View

Oh, the 747, but wasn't that the end of Debt of Honor, because if remember correctly, that was the set up for sequel Executive Orders, which followed up Debt of Honor.

The King of Rock and Roll:

mrfft:

The King of Rock and Roll:

mrfft:
Too far? No, people just want to censor any and all media they don't like.

Hits a little close to home? Ever read "Sum of All Fears" by Tom Clancy? Old book, similar results to DC.

People need to grow some thicker skin.

But D.C. didn't get nuked, it was Denver during the Super Bowl if I remember correctly. But you're right in premise, people take things too seriously sometimes.

Spoiler: Click to View

Oh, the 747, but wasn't that the end of Debt of Honor, because if remember correctly, that was the set up for sequel Executive Orders, which followed up Debt of Honor.

You would be correct, it's been forever since I've read the books from start to finish, it was in Debt of Honor, I stand corrected in that fact, but the point still remains. Or something.

mrfft:

The King of Rock and Roll:

mrfft:

The King of Rock and Roll:

mrfft:
Too far? No, people just want to censor any and all media they don't like.

Hits a little close to home? Ever read "Sum of All Fears" by Tom Clancy? Old book, similar results to DC.

People need to grow some thicker skin.

But D.C. didn't get nuked, it was Denver during the Super Bowl if I remember correctly. But you're right in premise, people take things too seriously sometimes.

Spoiler: Click to View

Oh, the 747, but wasn't that the end of Debt of Honor, because if remember correctly, that was the set up for sequel Executive Orders, which followed up Debt of Honor.

You would be correct, it's been forever since I've read the books from start to finish, it was in Debt of Honor, I stand corrected in that fact, but the point still remains. Or something.

Yeah, as something of a Clancy fan, the descrepancy just stood out like something that stands out but isn't outstanding. And yes, you're point does remain the same. And it was a good one.