Though this story is more complicated than it sounds, police have arrested a woman for performing a Facebook poke.
On September 25, Shannon D. Jackson of Hendersonville, Tennessee was arrested for poking one of her friends on Facebook. A poke is performed by visiting a Facebook friend's page and then clicking on the poke button. The person is notified that you poked them, and the whole situation ends there. That is, unless you decide to poke back, but we won't go into that sticky mess.
The woman that was poked had filed a legal order of protection against Jackson (for reasons unknown), resulting in the arrest after police determined that Jackson had violated it with her reckless poking. This order prohibits any kind of communication at all, even poking via internet. Proof of the poke was provided to authorities through a print-out.
There's a giant hole in this story if you haven't caught it yet. Anybody that uses Facebook and has broken up with a significant other or ended a friendship violently knows that you can easily remove people from your friends list. Facebook by default, in my experience, does not allow the poking of people that are not on your friends list. So, in this case, the poking victim could have just removed Jackson from her friends list.
If she had gone through the trouble of filing a legal order of protection, why would she keep Jackson as a friend on Facebook? Was it perhaps because she wanted to keep up with Jackson's status updates? Or maybe they were neighbors in FarmVille and just couldn't break such a strong bond? If you don't know what FarmVille is, god bless you. Now pretend you never read the word and live a long, productive life.
This is yet another case of a virtual action having real-life consequences. The law now has to consider new kinds of situations when it comes to the rapidly evolving social networking worlds of Facebook and Twitter and MySpa... okay maybe just Facebook and Twitter. As stupid as it sounds, if Jackson did intentionally poke the unnamed woman, she probably should rightfully suffer the consequences. The problem could lie with proving that Jackson actually performed the poke in a court of law, which to me would seem like something out of Seinfeld.
This is why I don't follow internet trends. Honestly, is the victim THAT stupid that she can't even put up with that? Was it just one poke or multiple? Sadly it looks like Shannon's not going to be able to put up a fight at all.
To quote the best cartoon character of all time: "The system fails again!" --Bender.
There's a giant hole in this story if you haven't caught it yet. Anybody that uses Facebook and has broken up with a significant other or ended a friendship violently knows that you can easily remove people from your friends list. Facebook by default, in my experience, does not allow the poking of people that are not on your friends list. So, in this case, the poking victim could have just removed Jackson from her friends list.
*frowns* That's not a giant hole. Quite the reverse.
I don't know about other people, but when I had a very, very bad break-up, I couldn't even bear to log onto my page, never mind remove someone from my profile.
If they were threatening me as well, I doubt I could even do anything rather than report it.
Fairs fair Tom, this women may just be scared. And the Law does say "NO contact".
Okay, that's just silly. I agree that she could've just removed Jackson from her list and this wouldn't be a problem. It's not that hard to find who you want and delete them. And Facebook is nice enough to not notify the person that you removed them. Not til they go to your page and leave a comment or something. I understand that she "broke" violation, but this could've been easily avoided all together. Just sill to arrest someone over this. If she were sending threatening messages or something, then yeah. A poke really can't do anything. Especially since it's virtual. Jeez.
How our society is evolving into a sophisticated utopia...
I find myself slowly depressed by how childish, for want of a better word, the mainstream is becoming. Even going so far as important political announcements being made via Twitter. Ugh.
If someone robs your place, it's still considered burglary even if you forgot to lock your door. It's the same here; it's entirely likely that the person "poked" didn't deliberately leave the contact information up in the hopes that the "poker" would get in touch, and that this was an oversight. A "no contact" court order puts the responsibility on the person receiving the order to obey it, even in this case.
Stop blaming the victim, kids, unless you waive all rights to assistance when you eventually screw up.
Tom Goldman: The problem could lie with proving that Jackson actually performed the poke in a court of law, which to me would seem like something out of Seinfeld.
I'm pretty sure restraining orders aren't given out like candy. And I'm pretty sure that if you receive one, you understand the gravity of said order. I'm also pretty sure that if you despite those facts, still click on 'poke' for a person, you're doing it to deliberately harass someone who prefers to be left alone by you.
And if that person that's trying to live her life without your interference has to be reminded of the harassment you've inflicted upon her, then it's very good that the justice system can intervene.
Edit: btw the image they used at ABC news is cool!
When can we start counter-suing or, at the very least, fining people for wasting the court's time on frivolous cases?
I could understand if she had violated her restraining order and just, I dunno, grabbed her violently on the street or something... But give me a break, poking her... Online... ? Get the fuck out.
stonethered: Unfortunately it looks like I will be the first person to ask. What is farmville?
something like harvest moon (dont tell me you dont know that either) You have a little farm with plants animals and stuff and can earn money and XP
I loved that game. I bought the original on the Wii the weekend after I had my wisdom teeth pulled. Kept at it for a month before I could bring myself to play anything else.
The problem I have with this is that we as taxpayers need to pay for something like this to go to court. In reality I bet the whole thing comes down to some prosecutor trying to get his name in print and maybe make it into legal textbooks for helping establish a precedent, rather than this being even remotely reasonable.
The big failure of the system here is not more defenses in place to prevent prosecutors for wasting time and money on ridiculous cases that only serve a slight chance of furthering their careers.
Of course I am guessing from the way this reads is that it's becoming a criminal matter.
Strictly speaking with the time being wasted it's pretty obvious how this SHOULD turn out.
Basically the arguements are going to be that the person being protected by an order should not have to defend themselves from the person under order.
However given that the assailent was on the victim's "friends list", this could be seen as baiting the person they are protected from. Things can be complicated with these kinds of orders and the precedent can vary widely, but basically if the person under protection seeks contact with the person they are protected from that becomes a whole new animal, and probably the closest analogy to what is going on here.
Therumancer: Things can be complicated with these kinds of orders and the precedent can vary widely, but basically if the person under protection seeks contact with the person they are protected from that becomes a whole new animal, and probably the closest analogy to what is going on here.
Sorry, disagree totally.
I have, on my friends list, at least one person who I never want to talk to again. And I don't want to remove them, because they might find out somehow, and then try and find out why.
It's already been set out that these two women knew each other beforehand, and that the victim had a restraining order against the "poker". Had I been in that situation, there's no way I would have removed the "poker" - just in case she found out - and then when the email came through saying "Assailant has poked you", you couldn't stop me contacting the police fast enough.
For it to be a restraining order against this person, it'd have to be a pretty damn good reason why they didn't want to talk.
There's a giant hole in this story if you haven't caught it yet. Anybody that uses Facebook and has broken up with a significant other or ended a friendship violently knows that you can easily remove people from your friends list. Facebook by default, in my experience, does not allow the poking of people that are not on your friends list. So, in this case, the poking victim could have just removed Jackson from her friends list.
*frowns* That's not a giant hole. Quite the reverse.
I don't know about other people, but when I had a very, very bad break-up, I couldn't even bear to log onto my page, never mind remove someone from my profile.
If they were threatening me as well, I doubt I could even do anything rather than report it.
Fairs fair Tom, this women may just be scared. And the Law does say "NO contact".
Surely if she hadn't been on Facebook, she wouldn't have noticed she'd been poked? Hell, I know people that delete friends on Facebook out of boredom, doing it because of a restraining order is pretty much mandatory.
Surely if she hadn't been on Facebook, she wouldn't have noticed she'd been poked?
Usually it will send out a mail as well, imagine getting one in the morning saying "Creepy stalker has just poked you."
doing it because of a restraining order is pretty much mandatory.
Fine, all you have to do is return to the internet, where they could be waiting...watching to see if you remove them, with their all too-familiar avatar staring at you, waiting for you to make that first move which proves you were against them all along.
Like I say, I've still got one person on my friends list who I daren't remove. It's just easier to ignore them than have them chasing me again.
Also FARMVILLE rocks my socks. And due to my extreme love of it, I could understand that they were probably neighbours in the very addictive application.
Surely if she hadn't been on Facebook, she wouldn't have noticed she'd been poked?
Usually it will send out a mail as well, imagine getting one in the morning saying "Creepy stalker has just poked you."
doing it because of a restraining order is pretty much mandatory.
Fine, all you have to do is return to the internet, where they could be waiting...watching to see if you remove them, with their all too-familiar avatar staring at you, waiting for you to make that first move which proves you were against them all along.
Like I say, I've still got one person on my friends list who I daren't remove. It's just easier to ignore them than have them chasing me again.
Are you kidding? The first thing anyone does is turn off the email notifications so real emails can get through! Oh dear merciful Jesus... The spam, the spam...
You can remove someone from your friends list and it won't notify them, if you ditch someone it may never come up (unless you update your status message every hour on the hour. They might notice the lack)
You're sounding silly now because you're talking about things that you don't understand. Why don't you sit back and listen to the grown-ups talk for a while. Then, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
And yes, I am treating you and the rest just like I do my two-year-old niece... because you're talking like my two-year-old niece. She has a better excuse than you do, though; she's two years old.
You walking arguments for birth control have no idea how hard it is to get a court order like that; the hoops you have to jump through, the evidence you have to present, make me take one very seriously. Also, I don't think you precious brats understand how much misery is implied in getting one of these orders; you don't get one just because you're no longer friends. Very often we're talking about long-term physical and mental abuse. Think "stalker". Think "To Catch a Predator". After undergoing that, victims aren't necessarily going to be thinking straight and they're likely to make mistakes like forgetting to de-Friend the victimiser... or just can't deal with it right away, and need some time to get his/her head straight.
People aren't perfect, and their (and your) imperfections don't justify others' exploitation of them in a civilised society. Of course, those of you who mistook Lord of the Flies to be an instruction manual won't understand that.
You're sounding silly now because you're talking about things that you don't understand. Why don't you sit back and listen to the grown-ups talk for a while. Then, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
And yes, I am treating you and the rest just like I do my two-year-old niece... because you're talking like my two-year-old niece. She has a better excuse than you do, though; she's two years old.
You walking arguments for birth control have no idea how hard it is to get a court order like that; the hoops you have to jump through, the evidence you have to present, make me take one very seriously. Also, I don't think you precious brats understand how much misery is implied in getting one of these orders; you don't get one just because you're no longer friends. Very often we're talking about long-term physical and mental abuse. Think "stalker". Think "To Catch a Predator". After undergoing that, victims aren't necessarily going to be thinking straight and they're likely to make mistakes like forgetting to de-Friend the victimiser... or just can't deal with it right away, and need some time to get his/her head straight.
People aren't perfect, and their (and your) imperfections don't justify others' exploitation of them in a civilised society. Of course, those of you who mistook Lord of the Flies to be an instruction manual won't understand that.
Police Arrest Woman for Facebook Poke
Though this story is more complicated than it sounds, police have arrested a woman for performing a Facebook poke.
On September 25, Shannon D. Jackson of Hendersonville, Tennessee was arrested for poking one of her friends on Facebook. A poke is performed by visiting a Facebook friend's page and then clicking on the poke button. The person is notified that you poked them, and the whole situation ends there. That is, unless you decide to poke back, but we won't go into that sticky mess.
The woman that was poked had filed a legal order of protection against Jackson (for reasons unknown), resulting in the arrest after police determined that Jackson had violated it with her reckless poking. This order prohibits any kind of communication at all, even poking via internet. Proof of the poke was provided to authorities through a print-out.
There's a giant hole in this story if you haven't caught it yet. Anybody that uses Facebook and has broken up with a significant other or ended a friendship violently knows that you can easily remove people from your friends list. Facebook by default, in my experience, does not allow the poking of people that are not on your friends list. So, in this case, the poking victim could have just removed Jackson from her friends list.
If she had gone through the trouble of filing a legal order of protection, why would she keep Jackson as a friend on Facebook? Was it perhaps because she wanted to keep up with Jackson's status updates? Or maybe they were neighbors in FarmVille and just couldn't break such a strong bond? If you don't know what FarmVille is, god bless you. Now pretend you never read the word and live a long, productive life.
This is yet another case of a virtual action having real-life consequences. The law now has to consider new kinds of situations when it comes to the rapidly evolving social networking worlds of Facebook and Twitter and MySpa... okay maybe just Facebook and Twitter. As stupid as it sounds, if Jackson did intentionally poke the unnamed woman, she probably should rightfully suffer the consequences. The problem could lie with proving that Jackson actually performed the poke in a court of law, which to me would seem like something out of Seinfeld.
Source: ABC News via Slashdot
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