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Really? I still don't see why everyone's making such a big stink about this. | |
Agreed. | |
that is fucking stupid | |
Nevermind. /dark_black_humour Seriously, what did they expect was going to happen if they put someone infamous for being anti-authoritarian in with pop songs? | |
Oh, the hypocrisy... | |
honestly, who gives a shit. what makes him so special that they have to remove videos of people playing as him in a game they put him in? | |
By next week there will be just as many videos and they got so many views Seriously though I can't believe they actually did anything about this | |
Double agreed. I just don't see WTF is the big deal with him "singing" another song...I mean for the love of god it's seriously NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. | |
Well this is Activision we're talking about here. So I'm guessing it was just the people up stairs not thinking. Still funny as hell to watch though haha...I'm going to get flak for that aren't I? | |
We live in an evil, greedy world. What's the problem? What does ActivisionBlizzard or Courtney Love gain or lose from this? Nothing? Well then what on earth is the problem? | |
It would be nice if these articles about Cobain and GH5 would reiterate WHY people are upset about it. It would only take a sentence or two: "One of the issues that lead to Cobain's suicide was the commercialization of his work." It's been left vague in almost every article I've seen on it, and the comments for each article inevitably ask "why do people care?" A very brief refresher for those who don't read every Escapist article and those who don't devote much of their memory to Cobain and the issues thereof seems prudent. EDIT: Granted, the article does link to previous articles, so I suppose that's the reiteration ^^; | |
Hmmm... I now feel the urge to go looking for some of these videos. | |
I don't see why they removed the video. I also don't get what the problem was... | |
Oh no a dead person! Oh no wait, that's no big deal... | |
Exactly. That is the problem here, for many of Kurt Cobain's fans, this akin to dragging his corpse out the ground, slapping a smiley face on it and having it perform the chicken dance. Its the evil twin or anti-christ to what Kurt Cobain and his music were all about. And even if you are unwilling to accept that, it still reminds people of his suicide, which I personally really wish he hadn't gone through with. | |
You guys are cold. I'm not a big Cobain fan but do you not think it's a little disrespectful? I'm not saying they should have pulled the video, I'm saying that they shouldn't have included Kurt Cobain in the first place. The game itself is to blame, not some guy who made an admittedly funny video. Actually, whoever signed over the rights is really to blame, they should have read the contract properly... oh sorry, I forgot it was Courtney Love who signed it. | |
Him being Kurt motherfucking Cobain, that's what. | |
I feel like it's pretty self-explanatory. | |
Hmm. Are there any videos with Johnny Cash singing Nevermind? | |
I don't get it. A singer sang a song, who is this guy and why is it so offensive? | |
About time, how dare they violate Kur..... just kidding folks. | |
And now Activision is getting videos pulled from Youtube. They REALLY don't want my business, do they? | |
It's sad that more people can't see how disgusting this protrayal of Cobain is (I'm not even a big fan, but the man had the balls to stand up for his creative beliefs and now in postmortem he's been turned into a marionette - the irony is cringe worthy even if you don't like the band). But what's really disgusting here is that, rather than try and rectify this hero's image with his fans, Activision is of course just going on a clean-up campaign and using copyright as the bucket and mop. | |
Hilarious, I better get GH5 so I can make him dance! MUAHAHAHAHA!! | |
Bah. If they made a GH game with Jon Nodveidt as a usable avatar, I would play it. His suicide was tragic, but as a fan of Dissection I would be thrilled instead of appalled to be able to use him as an avatar. I don't understand why Kurt Cobain is any different. So the man made some music that gained him lasting fame and a loyal fanbase. Nodveidt did the same...except fewer people even know of the existance of Dissection, and fewer mourn over his death. As to videos of Kurt getting banned...I don't see why they bothered putting him in the game in the first place if it was going to be such a "legal hassle". | |
I remember those cold nights with depression in late high school, holding a knife to my skin and wondering what the fuck was wrong with me as Rape Me played almost ten years ago... Hell, I wish I could say I was Emo because then it would be wankery instead of actual depression. Hell, I still wouldn't have that shit going on in my head... Hell... Wait, nobody here cares. I get the supposed atrocity of Cobain's death vs this scenario. However, I also see how it doesn't really matter. At all. He didn't die for your sins. He didn't die to make the world a better place. He died because he chose to die. He gave up. Fuck him. I mean that. I mean that with every little bitter mote I can conjure right now. His death has all this magical meaning that is projected on by every little wannabe rebel still shopping at the GAP (Fun Fact: Hot Topic is owned by GAP) and all that projected and forced meaning just cheapens whatever he DID die for. Johnny Cash is in there as are a number of other cultural icons. Cobain killed himself because he didn't like the commercialization of his band. Well, I don't recall the story about a gun to his head forcing him to sign with a record label. Love had all the power in the world to stop this and she signed it away either because there were pretty colors or she just needed more coke money. Guess what? Grow up. It was done and done legally. Enjoy the irony. | |
There's somthing really uncofortable about forcing him to do vocals on Peter Frampton's "do you fell like we do?". | |
Don't worry. It was wankery. ;) Nah, I'm just messing with ya.
Don't hold back man. Tell us how you REALLY feel. | |
LOL, awesome. Thank you. That was the laugh I needed for the day. :D | |
Maybe if Cobain sang a song every now and then that wasn't about life-crushing depression he might not have killed himself. Then again, he was married to Courtney Love. I find little reason to actually care that someone out there might want to use a Kurt Cobain avatar to sing a song that isn't dreary. And even less reason to care when the primary advocates of that position are Courtney Love and Dave Grohl. | |
Don't just use this as yet another opportunity to bash Courtney Love, Dave Grohl and Krist Novaselic agree with her. From Kotaku http://bit.ly/BE7Nj
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Whilst I can understand why they would pull Kurt Cobain due to the controversy behind this (as mentioned in previous news articles including the one in listed in the OP), I don't think calling copyright infringement would've been the best way of going about it. There are loads of videos of Guitar Hero songs on Youtube, yet they seem to have decided to target only the ones featuring Kurt Cobain covering other people's songs in this case, and not even all of them at that. | |
Who cares what they think? That seems like a rather elitist point of view to me. No one is denouncing Kurt Cobain's talent and creativity. I, myself, see it as a testament to his legacy that fans would want him to be singing every awesome song ever created. What's really hilarious is the insane number of people who assume they can speak for Kurt Cobain in this instance. I know the guy is dead, just because he changed the direction of music, does it necessarily mean he hated all other music? I'm not about to speak for him. That would be hypocritical. But I think it says a lot that people love the guy and what he did for music in general that they would want to honor him. And the only people who are pissy about it are those who are too stuck up to see it in a decent light, or those raking in the bucks every time someone buys his material. Speaking of which, why would I pass up an opportunity to bash Courtney Love? She practically stole his material after his death and used it to further her own career. Then when she had to write her own material, it was such garbage that no one cared. But by then, she had enough exposure to move from being a crappy singer to a crappy actress. She can kiss my ass. And so can Grohl and Novaselic. | |
I think its in good taste. He's in the game, use him for what you want. | |
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Activision Pulls Kurt Cobain GH5 Videos From YouTube
Activision is reportedly pulling videos of Kurt Cobain performing non-Nirvana songs in Guitar Hero 5 from YouTube, claiming they violate copyright.
For those who care about such things, the infamous video of Kurt Cobain singing songs by Public Enemy, Bon Jovi, Megadeth and others in GH5 was tantamount to sacrilege and also painted a painfully vivid picture of why so many people were unhappy with Activision's decision to include the former Nirvana frontman as a playable character. Watching Cobain belt out "You Give Love a Bad Name" may or may not be a hilarious spectacle but it's hard to argue regardless of your opinion that it's not in extremely bad taste.
That's a tougher call to make now, however, as the video has apparently been pulled from YouTube following a copyright complaint from Activision. YouTube user Corporalgregg3, who originally posted the video, told Kotaku, "My last account was permanently disabled due to (I think) Activision. Right before my account was shut down, the Kurt Cobain vid was removed due to copyright claim by Activision Games Inc."
It's unclear whether this is the only Cobain video Activision has pulled or if the company is going after all videos featuring him performing non-Nirvana material. CVG suggested that all such videos were being removed and an admittedly cursory search of YouTube shows that the vast majority of Cobain trailers online feature Nirvana tracks, but of course that only makes sense, since Cobain and Nirvana are virtually interchangeable. And videos of his avatar covering other material (including a rendition of No Doubt's "Ex-Girlfriend," my personal favorite) are still kicking around.
It's a potentially dicey situation because there are literally hundreds of thousands of Guitar Hero videos on YouTube and Activision, as far as I know, has never before shown any interest in them, yet unflattering portrayals of Cobain are apparently bringing down the copyright hammer. Maybe it's a response to Courtney Love's threat to sue the company over its use of Cobain's image, despite her earlier approval? Be that as it may, I'm no expert on the matter but I don't think copyright laws were meant to be wielded quite this selectively.
We've asked Activision if it can give us the real skinny on what's happening here, an inquiry I expect will go completely ignored, but if they happen to get back to us on this one we'll be sure to keep you posted.
(And if you haven't seen the video in question yet, you might still be able to get a look at it, maybe... here.)
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