Tactical nuke seems like a pretty retarded idea.

Rahnzan:
I like the balancing issues thing people keep complaining about - Not like every person in the game can't get those perks and Killstreaks.

Also if there's a guy getting 25 kills without DYING, that is 250 points all by himself, chances are, you're losing the match anyway.

Actually that's a good point. Tactical nuke sounds slightly less retarded now.

Scavenger, stopping power, commando it is, then.

That nuke's not a good idea. I know people that can very easily get 25 kill streak in matches, but just because they get that high of a streak doesn't mean that their team always wins. That nuke would turn them into gods.

So, Nuking yourself and your entire squadron is the most awesome way to win? Oooooooooookay.

D_987:
Ugh - once again as more multi-player information floods out I'm not liking it at all:

* Bling - Tier 1 - Standard: Dual attachments on primary weapon - Pro: Dual attachments on secondary weapon

Is something I completly oppose.

and

* Last Stand - Pro: Use grenades and equipment as well as your pistol

Could be horribly abused in the wrong circumstances.

I understand last stand but Bling is by far the coolest thing they can add. Its not cheap at all.

The only ones i trully hate are last stand and stopping power(why make the guns stronger, defeates purpose and is to cheap) i hated it in the last game. The nuke may get taken out but if we are lucky it might not happen much. It would really break the flow.

Dirty Apple:

Guitarmasterx7:
What the fuck? No Juggernaut? Great. I look forward to dying in one body shot from a guy with stopping power that I couldn't even see giving me absolutely NO chance to defend myself and making the game even less skill based than it already was. Though no martyrdom is always a plus. *Looks at level 2 last stand* That's it. I'm abusing that. You take my juggernaut, I'm abusing the hell out of that.

How does juggernaut make the game LESS skill based? The bullet sponge perk was always a safety blanket for those unwilling to check corners. Come play hardcore, it'll toughen you up a bit.

O.P. Bling sounds interesting. A silenced, red dot mp5 would be a beautiful gun to use.

No MP5, only mp5k. I personally despise stopping power and juggernaut. Stopping power just pissed me off it really gives balance to another player. Hardcore fixes that I suppose.

Am I the only person in the world that hated the kill streak idea to begin with. I hope there's a mode where you can turn them off. When my little brother catches wind of these, He's going to go insane with joy and I don't know how I'll stop him. Good men will die! Anyway, why do I get the feeling that this game is receiving way too much coverage, I mean its only 8 days away and we're still getting news about it like it won't come out for months. I'm pretty sure most people know if they're getting it or not by now.

Somehow I think if one team allows a member on the other team to get a 25 kill streak, that team deserves to die.

However wouldn't a tactical nuke kill everything?

McCa:

Amnestic:
Tatical Nuke?

That's just silly.

Highest killstreak I ever got in a CoD game was 17 (Hardcore Team Deathmatch, Cod4) and 15 (WaW multiplayer beta team deathmatch).

Getting a 25 killstreak would be...impressive, to say the least

Not too hard... Essentially one good player can win for the whole team now.

Dude have you ever tried being a one man army in CoD4? Even the craziest players die every once in a while.

Amnestic:
Tatical Nuke?

That's just silly.

Highest killstreak I ever got in a CoD game was 17 (Hardcore Team Deathmatch, Cod4) and 15 (WaW multiplayer beta team deathmatch).

Getting a 25 killstreak would be...impressive, to say the least

it wouldn´t. ive seen someone get a 67 kill streak in WaW (no hacks), and many with over 30 kill streaks in COD4.

OT: god dammit, i want to try out the "tactical" nuke.

Tdc2182:
The only ones i trully hate are last stand and stopping power(why make the guns stronger, defeates purpose and is to cheap) i hated it in the last game. The nuke may get taken out but if we are lucky it might not happen much. It would really break the flow.

stopping power isnt cheap. you can easily counter it by:

taking him down from a distance (unless hes a sniper).
use Juggernaut, it cancels stopping power and vice versa.
use cover if hurt.

In normal Deathmatch games I can't see the nuke being much of a problem because of the huge lead that team would/should have (although I've seen comebacks both helping or victim to them).

What worries me is when it starts getting involved in objective games. 25 kills is still 4 more than I've ever gotten on CoD4 but I suck. One good sniper that people ignore because he's a mile away from the real objective could have a shot. Hard call now though. We'll have to see how it plays out in real matchmaking to see if it really is unfair.

Holy shit. Nukes.

I doubt many players wil be able to get that though...

Wait! Where is Matyrdom? They said they will put it in, but change it so it is fair!

There are death streak perks too, like copycat and jugg aswell as matyrdom. This isn't a complete list.

Hm, I don't like the tactical nuke at all. Anything that's insta-win does not get my approval.

But I already know my setup now: Sleight of Hand, Cold Blooded and Ninja. Stealthy, mobile sniper here I come. Or I could variate with Bling (silenced, red dot mp5k) and Stopping Power to create a close combat ninja. Ohhhh I can't wait!

Catkid906:
Wait! Where is Matyrdom? They said they will put it in, but change it so it is fair!

I guess it's covered by the 'pro' upgrade for last stand - you can use other stuff when shot, rather than just your pistol. I'm also assuming that if you've used up all your nades before you go down, you won't have one to pull for last stand.

Well at least Martyrdom is finally gone.

Sucks that there's now a nuke though.

There's no tactical nuke. My friend got a leaked version of the game. I've already played through the whole campaign and part of the spec ops. I can assure you though that there is no tactical nuke. The highest kill streak reward is the 13 kill streak for the gunship.

And though there is a lack of perks, there are a lotttt t more guns and a lot of different options on how to set them up i.e. red dots/acogs/holographics/thermals/silencers/akimbo/foregrips/shotgun attachment/203 launcher...so yeah, theres a lot of options oh, and theres like 6 camo schemes per gun

I really hope the necessary billion hours of beta testing has made sure these perks are remotely balanced.

Tdc2182:

D_987:
Ugh - once again as more multi-player information floods out I'm not liking it at all:

* Bling - Tier 1 - Standard: Dual attachments on primary weapon - Pro: Dual attachments on secondary weapon

Is something I completly oppose.

and

* Last Stand - Pro: Use grenades and equipment as well as your pistol

Could be horribly abused in the wrong circumstances.

I understand last stand but Bling is by far the coolest thing they can add. Its not cheap at all.

Keep telling yourself that - the best thing about the last game was the balance with the attachments - sacrifice silence for a better scope etc...they are just pandering to campers now...

Oh my...I love IW but there gonna have to patch that!

I'm a terrible player and I've gotten 15 killstreak once, while it is a cool idea it is poorly excuted, at least by 10 numbers.

It should be more than 25 kills for the nuke. My record is 30+.

They sound legit enough for me.

D_987:

Tdc2182:

D_987:
Ugh - once again as more multi-player information floods out I'm not liking it at all:

* Bling - Tier 1 - Standard: Dual attachments on primary weapon - Pro: Dual attachments on secondary weapon

Is something I completly oppose.

and

* Last Stand - Pro: Use grenades and equipment as well as your pistol

Could be horribly abused in the wrong circumstances.

I understand last stand but Bling is by far the coolest thing they can add. Its not cheap at all.

Keep telling yourself that - the best thing about the last game was the balance with the attachments - sacrifice silence for a better scope etc...they are just pandering to campers now...

Its still gonna be the exact same accuracy and you sacrifice perk 1.

If these are true they have seemed to make the game more imbalanced and added in more unnecessary killstreak bonuses.

Damnit I hope it isn't.

Christemo:

Tdc2182:
The only ones i trully hate are last stand and stopping power(why make the guns stronger, defeates purpose and is to cheap) i hated it in the last game. The nuke may get taken out but if we are lucky it might not happen much. It would really break the flow.

stopping power isnt cheap. you can easily counter it by:

taking him down from a distance (unless hes a sniper).
use Juggernaut, it cancels stopping power and vice versa.
use cover if hurt.

Stopping power is making your weapon stronger than it already is. And when you go toe to toe with someone its basically if he sees you first you lose. They could take out juggernaut and stopping power and it would be fine. Its an unfair kill unless its a sniper in my opinio,.

Guitarmasterx7:
What the fuck? No Juggernaut? Great. I look forward to dying in one body shot from a guy with stopping power that I couldn't even see giving me absolutely NO chance to defend myself and making the game even less skill based than it already was. Though no martyrdom is always a plus. *Looks at level 2 last stand* That's it. I'm abusing that. You take my juggernaut, I'm abusing the hell out of that.

You have everything ass backwards.
pretty much.

Also, since you will be killed oh, (10?) of your own teammates, including yourself, wont the tactical nuke actually LOSE you points rather than gain you?

There shouldn't be killstreaks at all tbh. Theres no skill to killing someone with an AI chopper or a lucky aistrike. At least there should be a way to turn killstreaks of when searching for servers.

rofl if they hadn't screwed us PC gamers over with the fuxored multiplayer bullcrap they are pulling on us, I'd love that tactical nuke :), 25 kill streaks are not incredibly common on the PC servers in cod 4, but they do happen occasionally :)

:(. Stop calling it Mewtwo...I don't want you mixing my awesome pokemons in your generic shiny shooter.

*runs around ranting with a Pikachu costume on*

daheikmeister:

McCa:
[quote="Amnestic" post="7.153329.3681049"]Tatical Nuke?

That's just silly.

Highest killstreak I ever got in a CoD game was 17 (Hardcore Team Deathmatch, Cod4) and 15 (WaW multiplayer beta team deathmatch).

Getting a 25 killstreak would be...impressive, to say the least

Not too hard... Essentially one good player can win for the whole team now.

Dude have you ever tried being a one man army in CoD

Yeah quiet easy; use tactics you know? Cover?