Glademaster:

Guitarmasterx7:
What the fuck? No Juggernaut? Great. I look forward to dying in one body shot from a guy with stopping power that I couldn't even see giving me absolutely NO chance to defend myself and making the game even less skill based than it already was. Though no martyrdom is always a plus. *Looks at level 2 last stand* That's it. I'm abusing that. You take my juggernaut, I'm abusing the hell out of that.

I'm sorry you complain about lossing juggernaut probably one of the worst perks out there and then say because of it you are going to abuse another perk because YOU think the game has become less skilled.

I'm sorry but there is so much wrong with that statement and I think you probably need to man up and play better if you can't get by without juggernaut.

QFT.

Juggernaut was the bane of my existence in CoD4. So many sniper kills nullified because THAT GUY is using a terrible perk instead of Stopping Power like he should be. /eyeroll

I understand why the last Kill Streak bonus just gives you an instant win, but why does it have to be a nuke? Nobody wins when nukes fly.

Umm nuke isnt that un-reasonable since u win at 25 anyway....but seriously that is ALOT of killstreak bonuses. I can only imagine this will make superior vets even that more frustratingly dominant to newer players. Or just pure all out warfare and chaos. I'm counting on both >:D

Oh and btw, stop thrashing a game you haven't played yet. Even though it pretty much known whats to be expected. Go play halo.

Octorok:
HA! Seriously - no. While the killstreaks may be right, there are more perks than that. There were more in Cod4, and this is promised to have more, and there are 70 levels now!

More perks than this is my option.

There are many more including one where you can duel-weild pistols, which is annoying because you can get an automatic glock.

keybird:

Octorok:
HA! Seriously - no. While the killstreaks may be right, there are more perks than that. There were more in Cod4, and this is promised to have more, and there are 70 levels now!

More perks than this is my option.

There are many more including one where you can duel-weild pistols, which is annoying because you can get an automatic glock.

Actually, I know Akimbo is in it but it's either a perk or a weapon attatchment, but either way, there's 70 levels. They wouldn't give us fewer perks.

Plus last year Treyarch released a list of perks and while it was mostly right, it threw in a few duds and took out some real ones, to confuse people.

Hmmm, a nuke at 25? Doesn't the match end at 25 kills already?

the nuke, the mulitiple killstreak bonues' per kill, and some of the perks and the what seems like a small list of perks are makin me call hoax

Tactical Nuke ends the game? I've seen plenty of people get more than a 25 kill streak not that far into the game. Plus a perk which gives you full grenades and ammo just by walking over a dead body? Great, more grenade spamming. This game just gets more and more unbalanced the more I hear about it, and COD4 wasn't exactly that balanced either.

That's what I hated about COD4. The skilless crap of calling in a helicopter to do all the work for you, nade spamming across the map, noob tubing across the map, cheap ass perks and cheap ass guns.

OK does anybody know if you can revived in last stand like in WaW?

I've gotten 25-kill streaks before. Its hard, but not even close to impossible. My highest streak in COD4 was 36 kills. That said, I hope that the nuke is bull. Its just unsporting.

Hold on a tick. Why are there 2 different killstreak rewards for 4, 5, 7, 9, and 11?

I've gotten a 27 kill streak, but it was against my brother and his friend, no online.

Seems like a nice list

Skooterz:
Hold on a tick. Why are there 2 different killstreak rewards for 4, 5, 7, 9, and 11?

If I understand it correctly, you get to customize your killstreaks. You're allowed to "equip" 3 going into a match, and you can fiddle with them just like perks. Which makes taking a nuke along seem silly, because, while a 25 kill streak is possible, it's just not likely. It would be better from a tactical point of view to take regularly attainable killstreak bonuses along.

BaldursBananaSoap:
Tactical Nuke ends the game? I've seen plenty of people get more than a 25 kill streak not that far into the game. Plus a perk which gives you full grenades and ammo just by walking over a dead body? Great, more grenade spamming. This game just gets more and more unbalanced the more I hear about it, and COD4 wasn't exactly that balanced either.

That's what I hated about COD4. The skilless crap of calling in a helicopter to do all the work for you, nade spamming across the map, noob tubing across the map, cheap ass perks and cheap ass guns.

Then DONT PLAY THE GAME..dont buy it.

IRL you can launch a 40MM about 400 meters from the M203..so how is it cheap??

Dirty Apple:

Skooterz:
Hold on a tick. Why are there 2 different killstreak rewards for 4, 5, 7, 9, and 11?

If I understand it correctly, you get to customize your killstreaks. You're allowed to "equip" 3 going into a match, and you can fiddle with them just like perks. Which makes taking a nuke along seem silly, because, while a 25 kill streak is possible, it's just not likely. It would be better from a tactical point of view to take regularly attainable killstreak bonuses along.

Oh, alright. Yeah, the only reason I'd equip a nuke is if I'm actively trying to use it one time. Otherwise, it'd be better to have different rewards equipped.

While 25 kills is pretty epic, ending the game is a bit much.

The rest looks great though, and I like the new system they've set out for it.

Why complain that juggernaut is missing? Its about time they got rid of it.

I dunno.

They seem cool, I guess. Haven't played MW multiplayer; how many perks can you have?

I'd totally take Marathon and Sleight of Hand if I could.

CantFaketheFunk:

5 Kills -- Sentry Gun

Am I thinking along the right lines?

I refuse to believe that you could get a "tactical nuke" for a killstreak. maybe it'll be like the mercy rule in baseball, if you're losing that badly, then just end the thing.

obviously IW have no idea how skilled their players are.
I've come across many people who can get 25 kill streaks.

I have a feeling there are going to be quite a few short games in MW2 online.

gamefreakbsp:

park92:
you can only have 3 of the kill streaks so unless your really really good your not gonna choose the nuke

If you are telling the truth, you just completely nullified half of the complaints for the tactical nuke.

He is telling the truth. You can choose 3 of those, then you go. People seemed to have missed that

bjj hero:

biggles1:
I think the perks are a bit overpowered especially the nuke -_- basically a few good players will end matches in less than 10 mins and get billions of point while the rest of use get to WoW at the possible Hi-Def graphics they better put with that weapon or I will have to kill someone.

If you've let a guy get a 25 kill streak you've been out classed and its better to be put out of your misery.

28 is my biggest kill streak. I still wouldn't call a nuke though, Id have stayed on to pad my stats.

This has got me excited. I need to play this.

even better, I saw the trailer today, blowing up space stations, bike fights, assassins creed style roof jumping, this might just be awesome :D

Fucking shit. Our radars are going to be constantly fucking up then huh? Too many perks and killstreaks that effect radars. But I guess its alright. Looks good, but these perks look really over-powered.

Wow tactical nuke........what's tactical about a nuke?.....but seriously why are we encouraging camping?

Amnestic:
Tatical Nuke?

That's just silly.

Highest killstreak I ever got in a CoD game was 17 (Hardcore Team Deathmatch, Cod4) and 15 (WaW multiplayer beta team deathmatch).

Getting a 25 killstreak would be...impressive, to say the least

seriously, only 17? my record is 74, hardcore match on crossfire, total noobs and some serious rushing/sniping tactics on my part (though im on a pc so our servers are larger with bigger kill limits)

anyhoo i totally agree with the tactical nuke being stupid, i manage to get 25 killstreaks on a regular basis so this could call alot of matches short. if only IW had still backed up the dedicated servers so we could have "no tactical nuke" servers

uuuurgh, i wish they hadn't catered to the console playing masses and had left the real gaming behind for PC players, IW have sucessfully destroyed the greatest franchise they ever created

inevitable i suppose...

I hope no one calls the tatical nuke stupid. If you get a frickin 25 killstreak, there is a good chance you are going to win anyway.

Ok, not sure how many have gotten over their specific complaints yet but let me address a few:

1. Juggernaut was a gay perk in the first place for ppl who couldn't shoot the other person first. It's a GREAT thing that they took it out.

2. The nuke requires a 25 kill streak and the entire time, you're gonna have people hunting him down based on killcam views and often using predator missile strikes. Personally, I think that if you can manage to get a 25 kill streak, you DESERVE to win the game. Oh, and with the grenade launcher as a starting attachment as well as the bazooka as a secondary, good luck "grouping up to protect the leader."

3. Again, regarding the nuke and perks in general...if you pick the nuke, you're basically sacrificing one of your more likely perks on the longshot that you'll get the nuke often enough to make it worth the slot. Not...very...likely.

4. The only thing great about One Man Army is that you don't have to wait to die to switch classes. Anyone who isn't a n00b should already know that you could already switch classes on your next respawn by hitting "start" and using "choose class" to switch it. This just means you don't have to die first to get it. Not really that big of a deal if you ask me. Not to mention, once you switch classes, more than likely the class you switch to won't have this as a perk so it'll be a one-time switch until you die again.

5. Bling is nice but it's not like you can pick to add 2 grenade launchers. Usually it just means that you can have a nice scope AND an undercarriage attachment. Again, not a big deal really.

6. Finally, for anyone who wants to complain that n00bs will inevitably be dominated by players with more unlocked weapons and higher levels than them needs to think about the Deathstreak perk, Copycat, which is the only deathstreak perk you even start out with. When someone kills you, you can copy their entire loadout, perks and all, then use it against them, regardless of levels, challenges, etc.

At this point, any "unfair advantages" people want to whine about are simply their way of covering for their own shortcomings as a player.

Amnestic:
Tatical Nuke?

That's just silly.

Highest killstreak I ever got in a CoD game was 17 (Hardcore Team Deathmatch, Cod4) and 15 (WaW multiplayer beta team deathmatch).

Getting a 25 killstreak would be...impressive, to say the least

My second ever game online on MW2 and someone called in a Nuke, I was like O.o the hell.

Ravencroft82:
5. Bling is nice but it's not like you can pick to add 2 grenade launchers. Usually it just means that you can have a nice scope AND an undercarriage attachment. Again, not a big deal really.

Bling is awesome for having a sight and a silencer, or a heartbeat sensor and sight or rapid fire and a akimbo. The possibilities are endless