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Beat Writer
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AceDiamond:
So wait, he sends the money to a company that made games where you had to buy DLC to get an edge (i.e. the first Bad Company) to protest the business choices of Activision/Infinity Ward who are also after your money?

...I don't think he thought this through.

You had to buy DLC to get an edge in BC?

Pray tell.

Press Junketeer
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I respect that guy. I wonder what DICE thought of his letter.

Gone Gonzo
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Lvl 64 Klutz:
I see this whole controversy as just more proof of the sad, sad fact that multiplayer makes the game these days.

Because their 5 hour long single player would help?
Sure, there are more multiplayer based games now, but there are still plenty of single player only games. CoD has never been big on Single PLayer. THat is like begrudging a TF2 fan for not caring about a lack of story mode.

Gone Gonzo
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bad company 1 was the best

Press Junketeer
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Now you see if everyone in the L4d 2 boycott was like this guy maybe people would have taken them more seriously...

Paperboy
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Wow...he has absolutely no life.

Anonymous Source
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I wish Eddie J was my friend, since he obviously has so much cash he just sends it to fully functioning companies he has never heard of. Therefore, he must really hook his friends up with nice stuff.

Infamous Scribbler
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In the words of Walter: "Dumb ass."

Beat Writer
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gof22:
So instead of buy BF BC2 when it comes out for $60.00 he sends DICE $60.00 instead and will pry have to pay another $60.00 when BF: BC2 comes out? I don't think Eddie thought this through that well.

I think he was hoping for a free copy of the limited edition game, a multiplayer skin based on him. And maybe steak and a blowjob on a rollercoaster, I dunno.

Paperboy
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Eddie, you deserve cookies, oreos, cakes, and kudos.

Yes, a whole lot of c.o.c.k. for you. Well played, sir.

Copy Clerk
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"the money I was going to buy on [blank]" GRAMMER POLICE ALERT!

I personally think that was sort of immature of him.

Press Junketeer
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good for him. Most people would just complain about the change but live with it. This guy actually did something.

Hats off to you Eddie.

Beat Writer
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orannis62:

The Great JT:
Way to lose a sale, Infinity Ward. Not that it'll make any difference in the longrun, MW2 is already more popular than Halo 3 at its launch, but I can't help but wonder if this all could've been avoided if you had devoted servers.

Not to mention all the 360 sales they're losing (like mine) due to not supporting Party Chat.

All I can ask is: why? Why the fuck would you do that? IT ISNT THAT HARD TO HAVE PARTY CHAT AND DEDICATED SERVERS. Goddamnit, you go all out on the game and you neglect the important finishing touches? Come on, IW.

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Furburt:
Us PC gamers are an angry tribe, mistreat us and we'll impale your head on a stick sooner than you can say 'equal experience across all platforms'

Equal experience across all platforms...anyways i can see why he would do it, but wouldn't that money be better spent on another game or DLC?

Muckraker
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The look on his face when people either 1) realize its tolerable without dedicated servers or god forbid 2) mp actually got better without it.

Gone Gonzo
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I think it'd be hilarious if the new system turned out to be better than dedicated servers.

Paperboy
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Folks, you have to remember something important about Activision: Their CEO is a total douchebag. I quote him (Bobby Kotick):

Bobby Kotick, Activision CEO:
[Kotick] pointed to changes he implemented in the past as being particularly beneficial, such as designing the employee incentive program so it 'really rewards profit and nothing else.'

No incentives for satisfying the customers and giving 'em what they want - just making the company money. Additionally, I quote the article on Hot Hardware:

Hot Hardware:
According to the CEO, studio heads now regularly argue with CFO's over the allocation of funds, each competing with the others for cash. If this doesn't sound like much fun - and it doesn't - that's Bobby's stated plan. "We have a real culture of thrift," Kotick said. "The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games."

The CEO's long-term vision, in his own words, is to instill the corporate culture with "skepticism, pessimism, and fear...We are very good at keeping people focused on the deep depression." You'd think the man might've learned his lesson when indivuals and press organizations decried his plan to strictly focus on games that "have the potential to be exploited every year on every platform with clear sequel potential and have the potential to become $100 million dollar franchises." Evidently not. In Bobby's world, the best games are produced when every employee is in a constate state of fear, projects are always on the brink of being killed, the ability to generate profit is the only yardstick by which an employee's value is measured, and - let's not forget - making video games is not fun.

Original source:
http://hothardware.com/News/Activision-Blizzard-CEO-Bobby-Kotick-Talks-Gaming-Hates-Happy-People/

Folks, when I read this story as first posted on Gamespot I thought it was a joke...it's not. Their CEO is really that much of a...well...
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ToxinArrow:

AceDiamond:
So wait, he sends the money to a company that made games where you had to buy DLC to get an edge (i.e. the first Bad Company) to protest the business choices of Activision/Infinity Ward who are also after your money?

...I don't think he thought this through.

You had to buy DLC to get an edge in BC?

Pray tell.

Basically the DLC weapons for Bad Company were better than the standard kit and therefore people would be outclassed if they didn't get the DLC. Not that it happened to me personally for all I know people could've been blowing it out of proportion.

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AceDiamond:

ToxinArrow:

AceDiamond:
So wait, he sends the money to a company that made games where you had to buy DLC to get an edge (i.e. the first Bad Company) to protest the business choices of Activision/Infinity Ward who are also after your money?

...I don't think he thought this through.

You had to buy DLC to get an edge in BC?

Pray tell.

Basically the DLC weapons for Bad Company were better than the standard kit and therefore people would be outclassed if they didn't get the DLC. Not that it happened to me personally for all I know people could've been blowing it out of proportion.

Oh, you mean the guns that everyone had access to, but had to do little marketing things to use in game.

Most of those were shit anyways.

Gone Gonzo
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and then they decide to make dedicated servers for MW2 just to mock this gesture

jejejejeje that would be awesome but meh, i am still getting it for my 360... even if it is right now RROD....

damn...

Infamous Scribbler
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I just wish the the PC base was bigger so that when we got mad at a decision IW would actually listen and change their decisions. But 360 and their frat-boy fanbase is so f**king huge that they just laugh when us PC gamers get mad. They don't care because there are not enough of us and its a sad reality we have to get used to. Sucks to be a PC gamer...

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ToxinArrow:

AceDiamond:

ToxinArrow:

AceDiamond:
So wait, he sends the money to a company that made games where you had to buy DLC to get an edge (i.e. the first Bad Company) to protest the business choices of Activision/Infinity Ward who are also after your money?

...I don't think he thought this through.

You had to buy DLC to get an edge in BC?

Pray tell.

Basically the DLC weapons for Bad Company were better than the standard kit and therefore people would be outclassed if they didn't get the DLC. Not that it happened to me personally for all I know people could've been blowing it out of proportion.

Oh, you mean the guns that everyone had access to, but had to do little marketing things to use in game.

Most of those were shit anyways.

... they simply released the codes for them awhile ago, and its not like they were any sort of advantagr.
beauty of BC1 is even at max rank, the standard weapons are STILL USEFUL.
such as the snipers, AUG, S20k, and more.

Gone Gonzo
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maddawg IAJI:
Well at least he put his money where his mouth is.

I suppose that he'll just miss out on a great game though.

As much as I liked Modern Warfare one, and two does look good, who here can honestly say to me that the Battlefield series hasn't already presented war better than MW ever could?
Battlefield was there at the beginning of muliplayer PC gaming, and it still does everything better than the Modern Warfare series (as much as I like both).

Paperboy
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All this charade is is a "WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH it doesn't have dedicated servers so instead of being a mature human being and getting over something so inconsequential and buying a different game, i'll waste the money by sending it to another company that i'm not even buying games from."

Just someone being a baby and feeling high and mighty. A.k.a., an idiot.

Gone Gonzo
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S-Unleashed:
In the words of Walter: "Dumb ass."

You mean that annoying fucking puppet that's like a Strassman ripoff of Chuck?
That man isn't funny.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Oh... SNAP!

Damn, Infinity Ward, you got owned.

Paperboy
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If the definition of being owned is a whiny kid wasting his money, then yes, IW did get owned.

Gone Gonzo
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If he had given the money to something useful (Child's Play for example) then okay, noble fight.

As is it just seems petty.

Gone Gonzo
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pigeon_of_doom:

mikecoulter:
Awesome idea. But he's still down $60... I suppose it's the principle.

I'm kinda hoping that they send him a free copy of their next PC release, as it would be little expense to them. And it should be some time in the future so the likelihood of it being turned into some PR spin would be small (I think). They'd have some respect from me if they did that, not puffing up their chests and bellowing PC Gamer warcrys.

This whole sever controversy has really passed me by, but I'm not that much of a multiplayer gamer.

monetary donation, he gave them $60, DICE doesn't have to give him anything whatsoever, so really he is out $120 if he's planning on getting Bad Company 2 [I refuse to call it a Battlefield game], and thanks to him giving his bank account number, he might want to keep an eye on his statements for a few months, after all, DICE employ's humans, and after all, we are a greedy species.

Muckraker
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DaxStrife:
I'm impressed by the statement he made, but why $60? If he was upset over the PC version of MW2, why did he pay the console price of $60 when it's usually $50 for PC?

I think it shows that it isnt about the amount of cash involved. He wants dedicated servers.

Paperboy
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You are all RETARDED!

Instead of making absolutely no impact on the market he created a spectacle which managed to make headlines somewhere aka here on the escapist. Eddie got what he wanted and that was for people to fuss about and anyone who thinks $60 is a lot of money is dirt poor.

(skip BOT for bottom line on the impact of $60)
Here's a lesson on currency and economics... Inflation is the increase in currency and equal decrease in currency value which is rampant in US currency which affects all other currencies considering the US investments in countries and vice versa. This is why there is a worldwide depression. Somewhere in the 1800's the US adopted a Fiat money system after effectively stealing their citizens gold meaning that US currency has no value.

$60 = $0

Now lets talk about how much MW2 is going to disappoint everyone but people who have been using P90's and MP40's, never communicate with their team, have never heard of the word team, and think they pwn cause they can hold a trigger on an automatic weapon.

Gone Gonzo
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LoopyDood:

DICE, the studio behind Battlefield: Bad Company 2... promised that it would never turn its back on loyal PC gamers.

I would like to direct your attention to the PC version of Battlefield: Bad Company 1.

Wait, I can't find it...

Funny enough, you are right. There only seems to be a P3 and Xbox360 version. I'm confused now.

Gone Gonzo
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Shintsu2:
Folks, you have to remember something important about Activision: Their CEO is a total douchebag. I quote him (Bobby Kotick):

Bobby Kotick, Activision CEO:
[Kotick] pointed to changes he implemented in the past as being particularly beneficial, such as designing the employee incentive program so it 'really rewards profit and nothing else.'

No incentives for satisfying the customers and giving 'em what they want - just making the company money. Additionally, I quote the article on Hot Hardware:

Hot Hardware:
According to the CEO, studio heads now regularly argue with CFO's over the allocation of funds, each competing with the others for cash. If this doesn't sound like much fun - and it doesn't - that's Bobby's stated plan. "We have a real culture of thrift," Kotick said. "The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games."

The CEO's long-term vision, in his own words, is to instill the corporate culture with "skepticism, pessimism, and fear...We are very good at keeping people focused on the deep depression." You'd think the man might've learned his lesson when indivuals and press organizations decried his plan to strictly focus on games that "have the potential to be exploited every year on every platform with clear sequel potential and have the potential to become $100 million dollar franchises." Evidently not. In Bobby's world, the best games are produced when every employee is in a constate state of fear, projects are always on the brink of being killed, the ability to generate profit is the only yardstick by which an employee's value is measured, and - let's not forget - making video games is not fun.

Original source:
http://hothardware.com/News/Activision-Blizzard-CEO-Bobby-Kotick-Talks-Gaming-Hates-Happy-People/

Folks, when I read this story as first posted on Gamespot I thought it was a joke...it's not. Their CEO is really that much of a...well...
image

Don't worry. ATVI's stock is down 40% since last September and their earnings not related to World of Warcraft are so bad, you'd think they were General Motors. Kotick will be fired within a year.

Gone Gonzo
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Because I love being on teams that help out their buddies on the other team instead of trying to win.

Copy Clerk
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park92:
DICE should make a battlefield 2 except with bad company graphics and the ability to blow up almost everything and BFBC only has 24 players for PC so MW2 is still better

Well MW2 has 18 player max, so 9v9.

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