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Logic solution but why don't just give in to Steam. It rulezz!! Except the pricetag on 59.99 €... | |
All HAIL STEAM! | |
Thats weird, when i bought Saints Row 2 (for $5 before any one shouts) from D2D i had to install it on Steam. | |
Well done D2D! Steam is still brilliant... I love Steam... I get most my games from Steam... D2D still made the right move. | |
No objections here - I'd rather Steam not take a monopoly on Digital Distribution. Don't get me wrong, I like Steam and I continue to use it, but as always, competition breeds improvement and monopolies do not.
SR2 isn't as popular as MW2, I assume they did it now to make a bigger 'splash' so to speak. | |
SR 2? never played it on the computer, but that would be one of the last games I would think of being on Steam. as for this whole boycotting thing, they have a point, its a conflict of intrest endorsing a competitor through sales, but to be honest, it is not forcing you to use steam to buy games. but thats business for you, any word if steam will take up digital distribution now that D2D has pulled? | |
With MW 2 about to be the biggest flop in history (im not going to explain it, look around, theres tons of threads about it) I would say they did the right thing | |
I can see where they are coming from - and I agree with Amnestic regarding monopolies. But this particular move isn't going to help them. It's not like Steamworks will suddenly be pulled from the product because D2D isn't selling it; and with MW2 being what it is, they'll just end up losing a whole lot of money from people still using their services in this Steam-age. EDIT:
Yeah... we'll just have to see about that one. | |
Biggest flop? your forgetting a the console player that are'nt really pissed off.(except for the whole removing party chat thing) | |
Doesn't seem very smart. Refusing to sell the game because it "endorses" their competition will just end up with all potential MW2 customers being sent directly to their competitor. But whatever, Steam is better than D2D anyway. | |
Oh yes because this will most certainly hurt the sale of the game........ LOL! | |
EU players will take D2D over Steam any day, any time. I don't think I ever bought a full-priced game from Steam except for Team Fortress 2. Even then I managed to get it for 20 USD instead of 20 EUR, before they changed the prices for no reason and no purpose other than to rip people off. | |
I don't use digital distribution, but I can see why they're angry. | |
If all this crap was being so integrated into Steam, why not just make it a Steam exclusive? This is basically exclusivity by force. IW didn't have the foresight to create a non-steam DD version of this game? | |
Why are people advocating for market monopoly? Did the world suddenly decide to drop capitalism while I wasn't looking? Not surprizing really. Not too much sense hosting something to promote your competitor and playing yourself out of the market. | |
the problem here is that steam is the most popular not because they are involved in shady business pracitices but because they offer a better service than their competitors. if direct2drive, impulse and others want to compete with steam they have to do what valve is doing and offer a service thats as easy to use and as feature rich as steam is, something that NONE of its competitors offer. impulse, d2d, gamersgate, etc. all have one thing in common and that is that all they offer is a digital distribution platform. none of them have community features as steam has, none of them have anything like steamworks, vac, etc integrated into the platform as valve has done. valve has gotten a monopoly because they offer a more comprehensive service with a single application, not because of shady business practices, and valve, despite having such high market share in this area, is constantly improving steam in every way. this is the epitome of capatalism really, offer a better product and reap the rewards. | |
I'd sooner buy a game through Steam than D2D anyway, so its not a huge loss. Steam is an awesome content distritbution system and its little surprise MW2 has decided to go through that (especially considering all the measures they're taking to avoid piracy, and the level of protection Steam offers inherently). | |
I dunno it's not as good as total consciousness when I die or anything. | |
When DD service that actually matters and treats their customers decently boycotts MW2 PC tell me, otherwise this is just boring. In many situations competition is good, but when discussing the acceptance and quality of a platform, above all else, standards are key. Standards are the reason why Windows is so widely accepted and are the primary explanation of why consoles are so popular. If you have 3-4 equally competitive DD(digital distribution) services, you have 3-4 equally popular standards.(even 3-4 isn't technically competitive as it would still be an oligopoly) That means that there are 3-4 standards that PC games now have to be programed to work with on top of the Dx API and optimization all for a moderate increase in sales.(DD hasn't dethroned retail by a long shot) Now, since the companies in question are separate they each have their own distinct standard. After all, if they all operated like D2D or Steam they would essentially be the same service with a different name(not to mention the lawsuits and licensing fees). Steam is the dominant service for a reason, they pay developers a reasonable royalty(unlike retail), they don't rape the customers up the bum(like D2D), and they are not a fledgling copycat(like Impulse)(gross over-simplifications on all examples... well except retail, EA and Activision have no qualms about paying devs next to nothing; almost reminds me of a pre-Fair Trade South America[FT still hasn't taken off to well :s]) If Steam maintains dominance by providing a better service for all involved, I have no problem with Steam becoming the DD standard. Ehh... sort of a rambling nonsense, but I haven't had any caffeine in a few days and am about ready to kill someone. So, if you will excuse me! | |
Good move from D2D. Steam gives me the feeling that I don't own the game I bought. Sometimes it freezes updating or won't install properly and leaves me without the game I own. | |
At least someone's doing the right thing and not letting that horrid filth out of its pen. | |
I like Steam, but I still think this is the right move. Way to go D2D! | |
I've always refused to have anything to do with D2D anyway, but not for the usual reasons. D2D is an extension of FilePlanet, and FilePlanet is the root of all evil for inventing the concept of standing in line on the internet. They can kiss my shiny metal *bleep*. | |
Let's hope more people boycott this game. Perhaps they'll put some good features back in and make it more accessible. | |
There's a boycott every week in gaming. | |
"If you send us money for the game, you have to install our competitor for updates! And that could show them that it is better than us! WE'RE NOT SELLING IT!" *sigh* Oh well, if D2D and Impulse doesn't want to carry what will be the biggest game of the year, then so be it. Their loss. | |
What? Do you know what Steam is? | |
yes I do, Im asking if steam was going to take up digital distribution now that D2D [direct to drive, a company] had dropped selling MW2 instead of just offering the support for it. | |
Steam has been selling stuff since it came out... You've been ranting about PC games in a lot of threads and you don't even know what Steam is?... I like the way you felt you had to point out what D2D is as well. Cheers for the clarity lol. | |
I wasn't suggesting that Steam was dealing in shady businesses in any way. My point is that D2D's decision made perfect sense. It really doesn't matter if Steam is better, the point is that D2D doesn't want to promote their competition. I read a lot of posts that suggested that D2D/Impulse/Playasia were being morons by not selling MW2; my response is that by selling MW2, they would effectively be providing a huge advertisement campaign for their largest competitor for free. No sane company would willingly do something like that. Valve has been doing well, and for good reason. But monopolies are never good for any market. Monopolies cause markets to stagnate; in the case of community software, where a large amount of success is dependant on how many users you already have, it becomes very difficult for anyone else to enter the market. So it becomes possible for Valve, if they achieved market monopoly, to simply keep what they have and never improve their system. They can do this simply because anyone who wanted to compete with them would need to have extremely deep pockets and a system that is so good that it can blow Steam out of the water; quite a rare combination. | |
okay, let me make it a little more clearer: Now that D2D has dropped MW2 for being sold, will Steam add MW2 to its buyable list. or even more simpler if you cant understand that even: Is steam going to sell MW2 now. or if that is still to hard: IZ S734|\/| g01|\|g 2 $3|_|_ |\/| \/\/ 2 n40? lulzlulzlulzlulz | |
Seeing as you need Steam to play it, and wherever you buy PC MW2 you're going to need Steam, why wouldn't it sell it? It sells the rest of the franchise so are you really asking if the one that requires Steam is going to be sold on Steam?
Clearer still for you, it has been on sale on Steam way before this was announced. | |
Can't really blame them for doing so. Why would you want to sell a product that requires the use of one of your competitors. As much as I love Steam, there is room for improvement and I would wish that Direct2Drive or Impulse would create a service that gave Steam a run for it's money. Regardless, it's almost amazing how badly MW2 for the PC has self-destructed just before release. First you piss off your fanbase, then you piss off your online retailers. It's hilarious and pathetic all at the same time. | |
and yet the only time I opened steam is when I turn on my computer, before promptly closing it because im too lazy to turn off its auto launch. so instead of sarcasm you could of simply just said yes and moved on. | |
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Digital Distributors Boycott Modern Warfare 2
Direct2Drive and other digital distributors refuse to sell Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 citing the need to install Steamworks as why.
The boycott is directed at Infinity Ward's decision to use Valve's Steamworks to authenticate and update Modern Warfare 2. Steam, as a digital delivery system, is in direct competition with Direct2Drive and selling the game would essentially be endorsing their competitor. Direct2Drive seems to have led a revolt against Steam, as VE3D confirms that both Gamersgate and Impulse have embargoed MW2 for the exact same reasons.
From the announcement on the Direct2Drive page that would have sold MW2:
It's a bold move to refuse to sell what many predict is going to be the biggest game of the holiday season and what Activision itself touts as the "biggest entertainment launch of all time." Just like shooting yourself in the foot is a bold move.
But in a show of class, and to show Activision that it's still on board with selling their other games, Direct2Drive is offering a coupon for $5 off any other Activision title until November 30th. So if you had your heart set on buying MW2 through Direct2Drive, at least you got that going for you now, which is nice.
via Gamasutra
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