Slow year indeed...

Shouldn't it generally be released first before they start putting it on lists of top inventions?

Wow its not even released yet, probly has alot of bugs they need to work out still.

edit: now that I look at it alot of things on that list aren't out yet...

Hold on...I think we're missing something here...Mouse Levitation? Like, for real?

I, for one, welcome our new psychic rodent overlords. Squeak.

Proteus214:
"Tron-like immersion"???

Whoever wrote that article obviously hasn't played video games since the 80's.

ohhhh god lol that is so true

"You move your hand, and the Master Chief (or whoever) moves his hand," the site says. "It's that simple. And that cool."

Why didn't they just say character.....but it would be nice to have a fake weapon and pull the trigger on the fake gun to shoot and when you move around masterchief moves with your movement...a man can dream

Susan Arendt:

Amnestic:
Shouldn't it generally be released first before they start putting it on lists of top inventions?

You know, that was kind of my reaction.

And mine as well. They must have been grabbing for whatever was left at the bottom of the barrel.

Tron like gaming...
I can't remember exactly but didn't that end really badly?

Also, when are we finally going to get over this annoying hands free thing and return to good old controllers? I'm almost tempted to call for a resurgance of the two button and joystick days.

Amnestic:
Shouldn't it generally be released first before they start putting it on lists of top inventions?

Yeah...this should be on the 2010 list...

Lilani:

Susan Arendt:

Amnestic:
Shouldn't it generally be released first before they start putting it on lists of top inventions?

You know, that was kind of my reaction.

And mine as well. They must have been grabbing for whatever was left at the bottom of the barrel.

Natal's technology is apparently over a year old. I heard on a tech podcast that it was done by an Isreali company, and was shopped around since 2008 until MS purchased it in 09.

Proteus214:
"Tron-like immersion"???

Whoever wrote that article obviously hasn't played video games since the 80's.

That too.

The_root_of_all_evil:
Hold on...I think we're missing something here...Mouse Levitation? Like, for real?

I, for one, welcome our new psychic rodent overlords. Squeak.

Did you miss that news article? No worries! I've got your back. Cute and cool wrapped up in one tiny furry package.

Squeak!

Amnestic:

The_root_of_all_evil:
Hold on...I think we're missing something here...Mouse Levitation? Like, for real?

I, for one, welcome our new psychic rodent overlords. Squeak.

Did you miss that news article? No worries! I've got your back. Cute and cool wrapped up in one tiny furry package.

Squeak!

Oh yeah, I remember, I was mountain trekking then. Can't be sitting at my desk every day.

So it is like the Eye Toy and Wii but not released and not proven to be any good?

Zenode:

"You move your hand, and the Master Chief (or whoever) moves his hand," the site says. "It's that simple. And that cool."

Why didn't they just say character.....but it would be nice to have a fake weapon and pull the trigger on the fake gun to shoot and when you move around masterchief moves with your movement...a man can dream

Also, why would you want such a thing (outside of military training simulators of course). I've no idea how to load and fire a real gun, why should I have to learn that so I can load a fake gun with Natal?

Doug:

Zenode:

"You move your hand, and the Master Chief (or whoever) moves his hand," the site says. "It's that simple. And that cool."

Why didn't they just say character.....but it would be nice to have a fake weapon and pull the trigger on the fake gun to shoot and when you move around masterchief moves with your movement...a man can dream

Also, why would you want such a thing (outside of military training simulators of course). I've no idea how to load and fire a real gun, why should I have to learn that so I can load a fake gun with Natal?

I didn't imagine it like that, maybe a button on the side of the gun to reload instead of the actual way to do it and just a simple trigger to shoot, You know something similar to the old time crisis game on the PSone

Doug:

Zenode:

"You move your hand, and the Master Chief (or whoever) moves his hand," the site says. "It's that simple. And that cool."

Why didn't they just say character.....but it would be nice to have a fake weapon and pull the trigger on the fake gun to shoot and when you move around masterchief moves with your movement...a man can dream

Also, why would you want such a thing (outside of military training simulators of course). I've no idea how to load and fire a real gun, why should I have to learn that so I can load a fake gun with Natal?

Not to mention that you are effectively holding air unless you have some sort of props (which will likely be purchasable from retailers for a high price low, low price).

Reloading an invisible gun! Just what I always wanted to do with my spare time.

Ok if I want to look like an idiot while I play games I'll bash my head against the table while doing so. It's cheaper and probably, after you've done it for sometime, more fun!

Lilani:

Susan Arendt:

Amnestic:
Shouldn't it generally be released first before they start putting it on lists of top inventions?

You know, that was kind of my reaction.

And mine as well. They must have been grabbing for whatever was left at the bottom of the barrel.

My reaction too, It's nice to know we're not hitting a golden age where nothing more can be thought of though.

I don't care who says it's great, I'm still going for cynical optimism.

Eg "That sounds awesome, but I'd like to play it before I'll believe it"

Zenode:

Doug:

Zenode:

"You move your hand, and the Master Chief (or whoever) moves his hand," the site says. "It's that simple. And that cool."

Why didn't they just say character.....but it would be nice to have a fake weapon and pull the trigger on the fake gun to shoot and when you move around masterchief moves with your movement...a man can dream

Also, why would you want such a thing (outside of military training simulators of course). I've no idea how to load and fire a real gun, why should I have to learn that so I can load a fake gun with Natal?

I didn't imagine it like that, maybe a button on the side of the gun to reload instead of the actual way to do it and just a simple trigger to shoot, You know something similar to the old time crisis game on the PSone

What gun? Natal is 'controller-less'. If you have a gun prop, thats a controller. And it raises the question of why you'd want 'full body' control in an FPS, given no-one has a 360-degree vision TV (i.e. If you lean to look around a corner, all you're going to see is the wall been your TV) or full body feedback.

Sorry, but Natal, and Sony's motion controller seem like gimmicks for their audiences - the Wii at least is honest in its appeal towards the Casual audience, and has games built around the controller.

Susan Arendt:

Amnestic:
Shouldn't it generally be released first before they start putting it on lists of top inventions?

You know, that was kind of my reaction.

Makes me think of Obama and the Nobel prize, for some reason.

Here's why I didn't buy a Wii:
I play games to relax. To chill. To forget about my day. I don't play games so I can wave my arms around like a fucking moron who has a tarantula crawling up his back. I also don't invite my friends over so we can all do said fucking moron dance together. That's a good way to lose friends. And so while Microsoft greedily attempts to jump on the motion-sensing bandwagon by taking it one step further then the Wii, the unfortunate thing is that the one step forward leads into a pit of used needles and condoms.

#28 - YouTube Funk.

I WISH I WAS FUCKING KIDDING.

whether it turns out to be an actual effective gaming implement. I don't think anyone can deny that it's a huge leap forward in technology. it's incredibly complex and lightyears ahead of the eyetoy and such.

Also, it's fully possible to be finished but not released. the list is the 2009s top inventions, not 2009s top consumer products.

I... what? In many ways, this makes even less sense than Barack Obama winning the Nobel Prize.

eh?

Its not even out yet. Also its a bit stupid to make bold claims of it being the awesome because it eliminates the controller since the EYE-toy did this years and years ago back on the PS2.

This is why I have an utter lack of faith in journalism.

This will be great for Microsoft and they will be very happy and make many other people very happy, though I will probably get this just to try it out I suspect I will not like it unless they mainly implement it in a hardcore manner (i.e. in combination with gamepad for precision).

Overall, I support any move by Microsoft to towards the Wii style casual market...

I have a bad feeling about the years to come.

Malygris:
Controller-free gaming, perhaps better known to you and me as the slightly darker and crusted bits of ketchup around the lid of a bottle.

Hey, perhaps they saw in it the potential to cure cancer too, that's why they put it on the list. Oh wait, Time magazine's last shred of dignity and reputation died for me when they had that internet survey that was rigged and spelled 'the game'. Atleast I think that was Time...