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*Joker Laugh*. Well, maybe PSN will improve. | |
I am one of those fanboys that always held our free network up in the face of Xbawks users. However, I am not upset so long as I can still game for free. I really enjoy the Sony products and if they have to add a premium pay service to maintain enough revenue to continue support for the playstation, then so be it. | |
Whaaaaat?! I don't CARE what the premium content might entail, I don't like subscription fee's and I never will! Surely they get enough revenue from people buying stuff from the PSN Store??? Can't they just give us this 'premium' content for free like everything else? | |
im not paying for both psn sucks anyway. he's going to put people off with this everyone i no only got a ps3 coz u dont have to pay for psn. (i no u still get online gaming but i dont no anyone who even uses it on the ps3) | |
I'd imagine that most of the PSN revenue goes to the people making the content. If you buy fl0w, your money goes to ThatGameCompany (with probably a small portion going to Sony); it's not all change in Sony's pockets. | |
ITS OPTIONAL PEOPLE! I'm not gonna subscribe but surely someone out there will XD | |
The ability to know what the hell is going on in half of Sony's ads would be nice. | |
I've never minded paying for LIVE..infact I've spent more money on original Xbox games when they first came out then the 4 years I've been on LIVE. Hell you should see my 360 game collection..with the exception of 3 titles,I've spent almost $2000 on games..and thats not including DLC or other things. | |
I'm gonna bet its the download speeds thing, I mean hell the only other thing they could do is make it so you can access porn and even then the download speed thing would still bring in more customers. | |
Hey, Sony is taking a small play from Microsoft's book. A paid subscription service isn't bad. And since it's optional, like Live is, they should stop crying wolf. | |
Behind the Scenes as premium content. :) | |
Pry not best to openly say you are a fanboy. 360 fanboys may start to flame you. | |
My PS3 downloads quickly, its really quite quick in fact... | |
I don't see what they could add as premium service that would be worth paying for. It really depends on the price. For example if the price was, say... about $5 a month like XBL they would have to implement some really good services or else it wouldn't be worth it in my eyes. | |
First, they came for the premium services, and I didn't speak up because I didn't care about downloading comics on my PS3. Then, they came for the online gaming, and nobody was left to speak up because Sony has us by the balls. | |
actually ive just gone and checked and the browser on ps3 does allow you to watch porn videos. | |
If it included faster downloads, I'd be very happy. | |
Actually it cost the companies more to put up DLC on the PSN versus what it would be on Live. Escapist Article Maybe this will allow more content for the PS3. If I was a smaller company, I wouldn't want to put out a demo that could potentially cost me a hefty amount of cash. | |
No, Xbox live isn't even worth paying for with all it's kids, cluttered interface, ads and laggy P2P servers. | |
Hurray for an online idiot like myself :P | |
that's easy, just go to a street corner and find yourself some weed and you'll understand them a bit better, if not then at least you'll have a good time
i've never had an issue with download speeds. me thinks it's your internet connection | |
and psn with its hackers, 10 year olds who think they can rap, bad connections I have yet to see an improvement from the PS2 in terms of dealing with any of those things, atleast Live lets you permanently block people form contacting you. | |
Yeah the interface really is so damn cluttered, why it was impossible for me to find things like the DLC for Fallout 3, or the Xbox Live Arcade Titles I was looking for. Wait no it wasn't, it was extremely easy. As for kids, well whatever, the mute option was invented for a reason. And laggy P2P? Really? When? I haven't had a problem. People really need to stop making it a case of "PSN vs. XBL" because so far I've heard enough bad things about both to come to the conclusion that nobody is ever happy. | |
Slow down there big fella.We gotta take it one step at a time.First premium accounts,then understandment. | |
hmmm interesting :) | |
Stuff on Xbox Live for me easily downloads three/four times as fast as PSN. | |
Truthfully, I think the game industry is getting too greedy and this is a sign to be honest. See one of the things that makes gaming such a big deal is the perception of value compared to what is being spent, despite what has always been massive overpricing. Things like the coordinated $10 accross the board price hike a few years ago, and the desire to get people to pay for simple online multiplayer which has always been free. Subscription fees like those charged for MMORPGs being justified for things like around the clock staffing and support, which in general your typical fighting game, FPS, or racing game does not apply. Nor does that subscription include free content upgrades like for a WoW (holidays, new dungeons, etc...) especially given the mania over DLC which is already being exploited. Simply put I generally do not maintain a "gold" subscription for XBL except in very short bursts when I have a new game with multiplayer (typically a fighting game). Honestly though I am gradually leaning towards PSN for when I want to do fighting games, because despite early problems with slowdown I think the last couple of updates have increased the quality substantially. As far as what could get me to pay for an online subscription to PSN, or more regularly pay for gold? Well, right now I have my internet provided as part of a package deal that includes TV, Internet, and a lot of free "on demand" content as far as TV, movies, etc... To get me to pay in addition to that, and feel the service was worthwhile, it would ultimatly have to provide services I do not currently receive. Such as free movies and shows that are not currently availible on free "on demand" servies, or simply taking a lot of these DLC games that you pay for and providing them free to subscribers the first month they are out or whatever. Let's say that PSN offered a free game, and a free first run movie every month along with access to the same services provided by an "on demand" service. So basically instead of charging me a buck or two to watch an episode of a TV show from last season, it would be free. This being more useful to those who don't receive a "package deal" as it is right now. I'd consider that service worth say $10 a month as a recurring subscription. It would be fairly competitive with other services. As it is right now I find it vaguely ironic that both PSN and XBL try and charge people for content that is free even without such a package deal. For example with just an internet fee (which you paying to access PSN or XBL) you can hop on something like Fear.net and see a lot of the same horror movies at various time for nothing but enduring an advertisement or two, yet your console company wants anywhere from like $2-5 a pop. Sometimes it makes me wonder what these guys are smoking and if the guys evaluating the usefulness of these services and such even consider alternative (legal) ways of getting the same content. I mean anyone on say XBL already has an internet connection (duh). | |
It'll be interesting to see how this goes down, and how PS3 users take it. I'd be mildly fucked off if I were them, to say the least. Anyway, back to Steam. | |
It makes me wonder, what would Sony consider to be "premium" content? | |
Ok. So let me get this clear in my head: Splitscreen has been largely phased out in favour of online multiplayer (so that everybody has to own a console). Prices of games have been hiked (in order to justify the production costs for the game). And now we are reaching a stage where both Microsoft AND Sony will charge people for online content. At what point did they just decide to shaft us for as much cash as possible until their golden goose dies? Tch. | |
I like XBL, I like PSN. XBL is better. If paying for PSN will help towards improving it, I'd be willing. (depending on the price obviously) I'm curious about what the premium content will be though. | |
Well then we know its no that one thing to check off the list till they tell us | |
The number of Sony fanboys (not necessarily on this site - but other places I've seen it around the net too) that can all of a sudden say "well, it's Sony and PSN is great so I'll pay", honestly shocks me. I know the first two rules of The Escapist are "we do NOT talk about Destructoid!", but it needs to be said... | |
I can see if they want to add a subscription fee for psn/psp game/movie rentals by download. That's fine. But if they want me to pay for access to demos, netflix, and stuff like that which we already get for free, they're going to hear from me. | |
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PSN to Get Premium Subscriptions?
Sony's PlayStation Network could be joining its rival Xbox Live with a subscription revenue model - but only for "premium content," says Sony boss Kaz Hirai.
One of the advantages frequently pointed out by PS3 fan(boy)s is that Sony's PSN is free, whereas Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold requires a subscription fee. When some sharp-eyed folks noticed that Slide 39 in this Sony presentation at a "Media/Investor Conference" labled one of the PSN's strengths as a "new revenue stream from subscription," predictably, some Sony fans reacted as though the sky was falling - how could wonderful Sony turn their backs on us devotees?
Not to worry, says Mr. Ridge Racer Kaz Hirai. Yes, the media giant is looking at adding subscriptions to PSN, but only for new forms of content - in other words, Kaz is saying that you'll be still be able to play online for free:
"SCE will further increase sales by offering users new entertainment through the combination of hardware, software, peripheral and PlayStation Network ... [e]specially in the online area, we are studying the possibility of introducing a subscription model, offering premium content and services, in addition to the current free services."
Of course, now the question becomes, "What, exactly, does 'premium content and services' entail?" Let's take Sony at face value for now and assume that nothing will be removed from the current PSN, everything included with the subscription will all be additional. What would Sony have up its sleeve to make it worth the fee? Extra demos? Exclusive skins and artwork? Download speeds that don't suck?
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