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More likely because he hasn't had a truly original idea in 8 years. | |
For every flak Nintendo gets these days...Miyamoto is probably one of the few people in the business that understands video games and why they made. Which is probably the reason he wouldn't get hired today alongside his college degree. It's the mark of a good professional and business man. Something that some people(You know who) seem to be missing. | |
But...but... its Mario IN A PENGIUN SUIT! How's that not original? ;)
True. | |
Nice to know - sometimes college degrees can't hold up to real life experiences and many talented people end up getting passed over due to lack of a piece of paper. Hard work, creativity and motivation can make up for a college education in the workplace. It really sucks how much of an emphasis is put on a diploma and likewise how expensive they have become to get. I wish more people were like Miyamoto! | |
Amen. Also, can you imagine any of his original IPs getting made in todays environment? Both Mario and Zelda would probably be shot down in the 1st development meeting. | |
I'm trying to find a way to put things in perspective as a recent college graduate trying to get into the games industry and finding it hard to do so in a way that doesn't make me seem like I'm comparing myself to Miyamoto, but it wouldn't come out right anyway. The point being he's probably right. These days even a college degree isn't usually viewed favorably, and in the Games Industry more often than not they want people who have worked on at least one published title. Still, it's good to hear he's trying to do what he can to involve himself in the process of finding new talent. | |
I love his work, but he looks kinda scary in that picture. | |
So what's it to be for the next year Mr. Miyamoto, another 7 mario games, 4 zelda games and maybe another smash bros and mario kart? Good to see the old creativity still flowing. | |
We get it already. Anyway, I found the last part interesting and sort of neat. | |
I'm suddenly reminded of Willy Wanka. He even seems like the eccentric sort of fellow who would send out golden tickets, but in Wii game boxes. | |
Unfortunately this sort of thing is pandemic in todays society. Hell i'm doing a medicine degree and i still fall victim to it: those who get astounding grades are often the ones who get the best jobs, despite the fact that give them an actual patient to talk to and they're fucked. Nice to know he's doing his bit to try and turn it around though | |
*shudder* | |
I've heard time and time again that developers are more looking for physical evidence of ability than a degree. If Miyamoto had never been hired and Nintendo still around for some reason he could probably show evidence of skill and most likely get a job. Although that depends entirely on how Nintendo would be like at that time, it is interesting to think about how different gaming would be if weren't for this one man. | |
Most likely dead or not at the level it is now (i.e. the 1980s industry crash would've lasted even longer). Granted he didn't create the NES but who can say how well it would have done without a title like Super Mario Bros. | |
I know exactly what you mean. I've lost count of how many degree holding retards have resorted to ad hominem in discussions. I also recall auditing a psych course to help my mom study, and I kept hearing the same questions reiterated to the prof over and over. | |
Hahaha, this. | |
This. | |
he's right, neither bill gates would be hired for microsoft now. | |
lmao oh wow. Wonka. | |
"I might pick up on them and try to find out something really different within them which you can't judge just by a college degree," he said. "That's one of the special little jobs I set myself." I wish more people would do that. After switching my major, my GPA took a hit, but I know I'm just as talented as some of the kids with straight 4.0's, and 0 social skills. One of the hiring bosses at my job actually admitted to me once that he would prefer to hire the kids with the average GPA's over the ones with the 4.0's because they tended to have more common sense and were a bit more well rounded. I guess his argument was that the students who made straight A's did nothing but study and in some cases, he called those kids entitled and cocky because of their grades. I work for the government. I remember him laughing that a lot of the fresh graduates "wouldn't last a day". But then again, I know some kids with perfect GPA's who are the full package. No over-throwing those guys. | |
I agree with that, he really does care. | |
As long as the new Mario Kart and Smash Bros is better than the rubbish sequels on the Wii, I would be very happy. | |
Good on him, the industry needs more people like him who looks for how ambitious or talented people to hire, or at least gets to know the employee rather than looking at grades etc. | |
Nice to hear. I'm definitely the type of person who would hire someone with great hands-on ability and some good theory knowledge rather than someone with great grades and no practical ability. In the long run, the person with great grades might actually have a better career. But things in the high-tech industry move so fast...and unless you're in a huge company, it's hard to justify the investment so often. Especially if that person will be gone in 2 years. Now someone with great grades and some internship work? Write your own ticket in tech. | |
It's reassuring to know that Miyamoto is prepared to take an active role in hiring to make sure that people with genuine talent get into the industry too. I'm studying Maths at university and I'm hoping to get an internship with a games developer next year, though I'm not sure if I'll manage to get it. I also happen to spend lot of spare time trying to put together my own small games to try and build a portfolio, so I won't be relying on my degree to make it into an industry that is notoriously difficult to get into. I just hope that it will be enough, but nowadays aspiring developers seem to need to either work their way from the ground up as indie developers (such as 2D Boy, for example) or simply create something exceptional and hope it gets noticed (such as the people behind Portal, which was simply a modded version of an existing game created by several of the developers when they were at university - the original game caught Valve's attention and they were offered jobs instantly requesting they modify it to make Portal). | |
it would make a damn good porn name OT: its because companies dont hire people like miyamoto that we dont get the kind of uniqueness nintendo brings to teh table | |
"Original" doesn't mean "good". And Miyamoto knows "good" better than anyone else in the industry. Hell, he knows "originality" better than most of them too. He might be on his 100th Mario game, but he still knows how to make it good and fun, so as long he can keep doing that, I don't think anyone will mind 100 more Mario games. | |
so many businesses these days care only for that piece of paper, and they loose the genuinely talented rounded people with actual life experience | |
I know how that it like. That published title and 3 years experience looks like an insurmountable obstacle when you have neither. Especially since the only way to get them is to take a job that whose prerequisites you don't qualify for. Having worked with some real dopes in my time I can understand why they set the bar so high. With regard to the article I am glad Shigeru Miyamoto is taking an active roll in recruitment, even if he is just looking for younger versions of him self. If you hire people only trained to think one way, you are going to get the same thoughts out of them time and again. For a creative industry like gaming, that is not a good thing. | |
I find this rather heartwarming. And I'm quite looking forward to that next Zelda, It's a good series Even if it's not the most original game in the world, doesn't mean we can't enjoy it anyways. | |
This is why people love the pioneers of game industries, they understand through their age how the times have changed and look at people as people and not profit making bags of meat. Say what you will about Miyamoto but he knows that there is more to life than having that degree or having that imagination. People mock him for making wii fit but he understands where he is in life and lets that affect him to what games should be made which many developers just look for a quick buck. This is a reason why getting a career now is a lot more difficult, the standards are raised but the majority of people still need the actual training and experience in the field which colleges and high school have omit. Sure there is the networking but not everyone leaves college with a network to create a small business. Which is why companies need to stop going through stacks of resumes and start interviewing people and ask themselves "can I train this person?". Generation Y while having the most amount of education available have the least amount of experience and the smallest amount of chance to start their career after college which is raising the amount of working poor in the United States. | |
Sure, Miyamoto hasn't had the most original ideas lately, but his work is a lot more original and creative than everything on the PS3. | |
Hell, a chance to troll on the Wii. | |
So instead of just facing the cold Nintendo executive hiring board, Miyamoto is getting involved? Well, I can see this going very right. :D Truthfully, not enough talented people get hired. And Miyamoto is one of our last great game makers. | |
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Miyamoto: Nintendo Probably Wouldn't Hire Me Now
Shigeru Miyamoto is a pretty talented guy but in a recent interview he said that the videogame industry has become so competitive that if he applied for a job at Nintendo today, he probably wouldn't get hired.
You likely know who Shigeru Miyamoto is and if for some reason you don't, you definitely know his work. Miyamoto is one of the most famous and prolific videogame designers of all time, credited with designing or producing an unprecedented string of hits from Donkey Kong to Wii Fit. But things are a bit different now than they were when he signed on in with Nintendo in 1977 and in today's highly competitive job market, he doubts he'd even get hired in the first place.
"Nintendo has become one of those companies that graduates from colleges and good universities really want to work for," Miyamoto said in the most recent issue of Edge. "Because of that, the competition's really become so fierce for positions. And that means that a lot of the recent recruits for Nintendo have tended to have the higher degree from the prestigious colleges and universities and whatnot."
"I often say to [Nintendo President and CEO] Mr. Iwata: 'If I was applying for a job here today, I, with my actual college degree, would probably not have been employed by Nintendo!'" he added.
As a result, Miyamoto said that he's begun involving himself in the hiring process in order to help the company avoid missing out on talented applicants who may not bring a pile of fancy degrees to the table. "I might pick up on them and try to find out something really different within them which you can't judge just by a college degree," he said. "That's one of the special little jobs I set myself."
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