EA Ready to "Attack" Modern Warfare

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Danny Ocean:

Kalezian:

Most games allow you to talk to EVERYONE on your team, not just 4 people.

it gets pretty annoying when your trying to get someones attention without talking to them simply because they are not in your squad.

This thing fixed that.

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This is where I really believe the impetuous behind gamepads is a bad thing. There simply aren't enough buttons! In the battlefield games for PC, you had two of these. One tactical, and one general. There were around twenty different commands in all, ranging from "I need backup" and "MEDIC!!" to "Enemy Spotted" and "I need a ride!". On a gamepad there simply isn't enough buttons. That's a feature that's been cut to accommodate the gamepads, and it's a terrible omission. Now we're stuck with the retarded spotting system and no way to communicate outside of your squad.

I just hope they prove me wrong.

see, if BC 2 even had something like that I would think better of multiplayer for it, but if it follows like how BC 1 used the auto call system, as in if you happen to see an enemy you shout it out and a small fairly illegible text appears if you have a standard 30" crt TV still, like mine, since my hdmi cable for some reason wont put sound through my hd monitor and hope that people atleast have their volume set to 10 or pay attention to the call out's.

heck, even having a system like L4D would be better than hoping your teammates have telepathy.

Andy Chalk:

"The shooter space is one we don't want to give up. It's an important genre and we were the number one,"

When the hell was EA "Number one" in shooters? Anyways bad company 2's multiplayer will have to be waaaaaaaaay better than the first ones if it even wants to touch MW2. Unless they overhaul it completely I don't think it'll be up to standards.

Hopefully this takes down Call of Duty once and for all. My once favorite game series has turned into a generic brown-and-gray kiddie fest like all the other games.

I agree when they say if anyone can do it, DICE can. Battlefield 2, 1943, and Bad Company are the only games by them I own and every single one of them are just great.

what always annoyed me was how modern warfare is always attributed to being the first proper game about modern warfare

it's like everyone just forgets about battlefield modern combat and writes ea off as ripping of ifinity ward who have about as many original ideas as a box of cheerios

AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt:
what always annoyed me was how modern warfare is always attributed to being the first proper game about modern warfare

it's like everyone just forgets about battlefield modern combat and writes ea off as ripping of ifinity ward who have about as many original ideas as a box of cheerios

ProfessorLayton:
Hopefully this takes down Call of Duty once and for all. My once favorite game series has turned into a generic brown-and-gray kiddie fest like all the other games.

I agree when they say if anyone can do it, DICE can. Battlefield 2, 1943, and Bad Company are the only games by them I own and every single one of them are just great.

Don't even get me started. I think the Battlefield games are the best games I've ever played. Mainly 2 and 2142, as those are the ones I got really involved in. Squad leading be fun.

Judging by the picture, B:BC2 will have the XM8 as an available weapon. EA's argument is invalid.

There won't be a fight between MF2 and BF:BC2.
Bad company will destroy modern warfare 2

Weird how anything successful will by definition have people hating it only because it is successful, such as MW2.

Also weird that EA wants to fight MW2 with an existing franchise instead of starting a new one.

Well I still say Bad Copmpany 1 is better then COD 4. (Its is however to outdated to better COD 6) So hopefully if done right this game can make the Battlefield Franchise #1 again in the world of the FPS.

In that gameplay video on the DICE site, the playermodel's arms look like a bear suit :3

OT: I don't know, i think we've really hit a peak with these modern-setting shooters. THere will be more released, but in terms of content and gameplay i don't really see how the can differentiate themselves anymore.

Danny Ocean:
Don't even get me started. I think the Battlefield games are the best games I've ever played. Mainly 2 and 2142, as those are the ones I got really involved in. Squad leading be fun.

Well honestly, I thought that Call of Duty: United Offensive was better than any Battlefield game I've played, but then again I think that Call of Duty: United Offensive was better than any game I have ever played except for Resident Evil 4. I still love Battlefield because of their gameplay and I love the way that the games work, but I think one of the best aspects of the Battlefield games is the sound. The music is absolutely fantastic in every single one and the sound effects, especially in Bad Company, are realistic and are more immersive than just about every other game out there.

BF2 and BF2142 were great. Never did try BF:BC, since it wasn't a PC game. Here's hoping BF:BC2 is a great game.

I question how well another modern military shooter will fare so close after COD:MW2. The people who bought MW2 (which is basically the entire market) are still playing. What will BC2 have to offer that MW2 doesn't? And will it be worth spending another $60 for?

Then again, people paid $60 for MW2, and it offered little over (and was in many ways worse than) COD4. Perhaps people will buy anything as long as it's new.

Now if only EA hadn't missed the Christmas season.

ProfessorLayton:

Danny Ocean:
Don't even get me started. I think the Battlefield games are the best games I've ever played. Mainly 2 and 2142, as those are the ones I got really involved in. Squad leading be fun.

Well honestly, I thought that Call of Duty: United Offensive was better than any Battlefield game I've played, but then again I think that Call of Duty: United Offensive was better than any game I have ever played except for Resident Evil 4. I still love Battlefield because of their gameplay and I love the way that the games work, but I think one of the best aspects of the Battlefield games is the sound. The music is absolutely fantastic in every single one and the sound effects, especially in Bad Company, are realistic and are more immersive than just about every other game out there.

Ah I've never played that. Now I feel like I'm missing out. :P

I just loved the sheer teamplay at work in the Battlefield games. You could actually talk like a soldier and not sound like an idiot[1]! The mix of vehicular and infantry combat made it even better, as you'd engage in moments that were so cinematic that they could well have been scripted, but they weren't[2].
I enjoyed it more before they sped it up and consolified it. I don't mind consoles, but the effects they have can't be denied.

[1] "Move up.""Cover me""I need support!"
[2] Low hitpoints, skulking around a tank, get caught in the open, but it's blown up by a gunship before it can fire!

Guitarmasterx7:

Andy Chalk:

"The shooter space is one we don't want to give up. It's an important genre and we were the number one,"

When the hell was EA "Number one" in shooters? Anyways bad company 2's multiplayer will have to be waaaaaaaaay better than the first ones if it even wants to touch MW2. Unless they overhaul it completely I don't think it'll be up to standards.

Well if we ignore Halo and perhaps something else, then yes, they were number 1. Back before, the Battlefield games pretty much was a shooter everyone knew and loved.

ReverseEngineered:
BF2 and BF2142 were great. Never did try BF:BC, since it wasn't a PC game. Here's hoping BF:BC2 is a great game.

I question how well another modern military shooter will fare so close after COD:MW2. The people who bought MW2 (which is basically the entire market) are still playing. What will BC2 have to offer that MW2 doesn't? And will it be worth spending another $60 for?

Then again, people paid $60 for MW2, and it offered little over (and took much from) COD4. Perhaps people will buy anything as long as it's new.

Now if only EA hadn't missed the Christmas season.

Aye, I thoroughly enjoyed previous Battlefield games but never played Bad Company.

To answer your question, in my opinion I think they will be able to compete. They may be similar genres, but Battlefield still has a strong following. On PC I can totally see them winning (BF is still not giving up modding, dedicated servers, and large player counts, among other things). On consoles, I'm not sure, but they'll make a profit anyhow.

They can compete because they've got some tricks up their sleeves. BF:BC2 does seem to offer a lot that MW2 does not. Amazing sound effects, higher player count, vehicle usage (killstreaks from MW2 don't really count; you're not driving something and using it as you see fit) and an actual battlefield to fight on (aka larger maps) are just a few examples.

Oh, and who can forget, the whole destructibility and physics thing? This is one of the best features I've always longed for in a polished first person shooter. It gives people more options and makes for good eye candy.

They've also got fresher multiplayer modes and a much better emphasis on teamwork.

All in all, I sound like I'm really impressed with BF:BC2, and I am. MW2 was pretty entertaining for a while, but I'd like to see how BF:BC2 plays out.

D_987:
The problem with the Battlefield franchise - when compared to something like Modern Warfare 2, is that it's not casual enough. Modern Warfare 2 has a huge movie-like story, fast easy-to pick up and play gameplay and a sense of progression whatever you do.

Battlefield can try to copy that sense of progression, but by its very nature large scale team battles aren't going to attract the same attention as small, fast paced games that anyone can play. What's more, Battlefields last title in this franchise (Bad Company) was a terrible failure - an extremely poor single player campaign with a sometimes fun multi-player; not really the sort of game you want to compete with Modern Warfare 2's adrenaline-rush style gameplay. However, the success of the spin-off 1943 might have given the series sufficient public knowledge to get a large number of sales - who knows?

Medal of Honour might have a better chance as it's a more console-orientated franchise - even so, many "non-hardcore" (you know what I mean; the sort that don't spend their time discussing games on the internet but play Call of Duty for hours) gamers have never heard of either franchise, and if they have their experiences are mixed (from personal experience).

Sorry EA, I wouldn't go around claiming they can challenge Modern Warfare 2 in terms of sales just yet...

I actually enjoyed Bad Company, just thought I'd put that out there. In any case BC2 looks like the CoD killer we've all been waiting for, key word LOOKS.

I'll feel horrible but, GO EA! In any case, I'm concerned about the rating, not that it would matter to me, it would just be like losing a good friend, I wouldn't have even gotten into Battlefield 2 if it weren't rated "T" (my parents were a little paranoid that I might go shoot up a school when I was about 9-ish. Apparently the appearance/lack of blood makes worlds of difference in a child's psyche, I can shoot a squadron of enemies, but god forbid they bleed, I might snap!) I'm just rambling now, so I'll leave you all to your forum mongering.

if they had weapon customizations..

I love the XM8/M8 platform. IMO Ghost Recon series did the XM8/M8 weapon right.

I've never played BF:BC before but that Panama Canal gameplay has sold me:D
It just looks more visceral than MW2 ever could be.
I'm going to get it for both my 360 and PC:)

PayJ567:

Gilbert Munch:

PayJ567:
I hope this outsells MW2 on pc, that would really shove it to IW. Yeah take that while you sit on your tonnes of bank notes not caring.

The 'tonnes of bank notes' prove that Infinity Ward have won, and I doubt they'd care if BW2 outsells it on the PC. In case you haven't noticed, it's owning the console market.

It appears the concept of sarcasm was lost on you. I geuse its hard to convey properly without signage, or tone of voice.

You guessed correctly. Combine the fact that sarcasm is very hard (read: impossible) to convey across the Internet and that your original statement was poorly worded, and you end up with something like this.

Kalezian:

Caliostro:
[1]

Kalezian:

of course multiplayer sucks ass for simple reasons that are in every single online shooter of the same type.

prone, powerful sniper rifles [as in you DIE from a 12.7x99mm round, not run off and insta-heal],and overall squad gameplay

Those sound like good things... Definitely better than the assorted junk MWII has. If you think being sniped is bad, what about nuked? Or shot from a gunner plane? Or killed by a thrown knife that should never in a million years pierce kevlar by a person holding a shield that makes them practically bullet proof?

[2]

Kalezian:
, yes it was a good idea, but then again I hate how I tried to tell my team-mates about the rifleman behind him only to find out that he doesn't have a mic. not only that, but you can only talk to the 4 people in your squad, so there is no cross squad tactics you can even think about using.

if they even just fix the squad thing, I might try out the online part, but besides that, a rent for me.

FYI: Retarded team mates exist in every game that HAS team mates. Not really a good reason to evaluate a game by.

[1] you missed the point, BC didnt have those things unlike every game out in the market, and it gets annoying since I mainly play a sniper in most maps. While I agree about the shield part, MW2 actually does those better, since you can shoot down the plane, and sniping really consists of getting to the hghest point and hoping no one saw you climbing, unlike in BC, where its crouch behind a rock [since, you know, in the future humans have devloved to the point we cant lay down] and attempt to hit someone in the head, since hitting central mass does nothing. im pretty sure if you got hit with this:

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note, the one on the far left is the 12.7x99mm.

Im pretty sure you would die if you were shot in the chest with that, not being able to run a hundred yards behind a rock and instantly inject heroin magic into your bloodstream and instantly heal all your wounds.

I think the reason that the insa-heal was there was to give it a slight sense of cartoonishnes or not-so-realism. not every game needs to be super realistic. I played battle field 2, and it was annoying when you would be fight and no matter how much you tried, if you where close to the person, you would be relatively close to death. and, ho say, you where alone or without any medic nearby(as you would be a lot) you would die. not saying they needed an infinite health re-gainer, but I think letting the basic foot soldier have something to heal himself with makes him a little more useful. and ya, only being able to 4 people is supposed to promote team work, but all it does is get people mad because you can't talk to anyone else you just happen to be near by. still, I agree with most everything you said, just the health heroin was adding a little bit of comedy(like how the grenades have smiley faces on them.) now, I'll get back to lying down by squatting to sleep, good day. *crouches and promptly falls asleep.*

Even though I like MW2 I do hope this will be better as I prefer the kind of gameplay they offer... So I will have to say GO DICE!!! (See, I didn't say EA so I don't have to feel dirty)

Wow! I hope Battlefield badcompany can take on Modern Warfare. and I hope it wins. I'm gonna need to dig up my copy of the first one and give it a good re-play....there, I said it....EA still scares me.

Thank god they chose to bench Medal of Honor.

The graphics for it made me weep tears of pity.

Sulu:
As long as BC2 uses fantasy guns that will never be in service (see pic in OP) then I won't be very attracted to it. That and the last Battlefield game I bought had the rediculous punk buster software for the PC which made online play useless.

The XM8 is very real - it may not be the official weapon of any military, but it is still real, and can still be obtained, such as if you were a PMC.

And it was going to be the new MBR of the US Armed Forces, but then for some reason they completely switched courses and took the relatively inferior SCAR series weapons instead.....

Caliostro:
Let me point out that ever since I saw gameplay videos for Bad Company 2, I immediately saw it as vastly superior to MWII.

Although, it's all down to words and specs right now, the final word isn't till BC2 is playable and in the hands of the people.

If there's anyone capable of tackling the money shitting behemoth that Call of Duty became, I'd say that's undoubtedly the Bad Company franchise.

Indeed. I like me some Modern Warfare, but I think I'm only using it as a hold-over until my next hit of Bad Company. Hopefully by spending all this time developing this next installment, EA will have fixed some of the buggy AI from the first Bad Company.

I doubt it will take a big chink out of IW's profits. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game (judging by the beta) but MW2 made an awful lotof money.

Caliostro:
Let me point out that ever since I saw gameplay videos for Bad Company 2, I immediately saw it as vastly superior to MWII.

Although, it's all down to words and specs right now, the final word isn't till BC2 is playable and in the hands of the people.

If there's anyone capable of tackling the money shitting behemoth that Call of Duty became, I'd say that's undoubtedly the Bad Company franchise.

Agreed, Battlefield 2 was the first non quake online shooter I got into.

And there was this sweet sniper spot in Mashtuur city that was hilarious fun pissing off USMC snipers from.

It's interesting how EA is advertising the multiplayer part of the game and not the campaign. Maybe they've come to realize that the hick with the "hilarious" dialogue and how danger isn't his middle name, equivalent to Starwars' Jar-Jar Binks, isn't showing their best side. So EA is going to challenge IW with the possible continuation of the brain dead hick, a shaky campaign from the lack of advertisements and the ability for your teammates to shout fuck every five paces taken in multiplayer.

How bout you guys not try and one up your clone games to be like the other and make one stand out over the other?

Ya know. Like real competion? There are so many FPS clones out there...What will the game breaking gimmick be? As we know what fails...

0z0wen:
There won't be a fight between MF2 and BF:BC2.
Bad company will destroy modern warfare 2

Really? How, exactly?

Also, to all you naysayers: MW2 is a really good game. Yes, the plot is ludicrous, but I loved the ridiculous story and played for the fantastic settings and gameplay. The multiplayer is also really fun. It's frenetic, and fast-paced, and you feel compelled to keep playing to unlock all the guns and things. It is like an MMO in that way, but with the draw of an MMO, and not many of the flaws. The gameplay trailers for BC2 look amazing, but I doubt it can topple, what is it now, the best-selling game of all time? Something ridiculous like that.

We don't need to put down one game to like another. If we do that, we're just doing what the warring developers want us to do.

I saw silencers on some guns from the first game. Is there weapon customization?

Carlston:
How bout you guys not try and one up your clone games to be like the other and make one stand out over the other?

Ya know. Like real competion? There are so many FPS clones out there...What will the game breaking gimmick be? As we know what fails...

Maybe you should ya know. Actually play a battlefield game, leading squads around open maps while players hop in tanks and aircraft and bombard eachother is nothing like ya know. Modern Warfare.

Dark Templar:

dommyuk:

Coaxill:
Bad company 2 is without a doubt better than MW2 but I still hate EA. I will support IW to the end no matter what stupid shit they pull.

Despite them reducing the quality of your gaming experience, you'll let them walk all over you?

That would be true if we supported EA.

Lesser evil= Modern warfare imo.

Yeah, because ActiBlizz is the lesser evil. They raise game prices, pump sequels out at a dizzying rate and then tell you to fuck off if you don't like it.

In the last three years, EA has brought out franchises such as Dead Space, Brutal Legend and Rock Band, revamped the Fight Night series, and published L4D and Spore.

What exactly has Activision done? The bought Blizzard and they sequel the Call of Duty and Guitar Hero franchises. For the life of me, I can't think of anything else that publisher is doing.

If it wasn't for their purchase of Blizzard, I doubt Acti would be the juggernaut that it is.

hypothetical fact:

Carlston:
How bout you guys not try and one up your clone games to be like the other and make one stand out over the other?

Ya know. Like real competion? There are so many FPS clones out there...What will the game breaking gimmick be? As we know what fails...

Maybe you should ya know. Actually play a battlefield game, leading squads around open maps while players hop in tanks and aircraft and bombard each other is nothing like ya know. Modern Warfare.

Still, give a corp dipstick a idea and they tend to go right back to thinking in qa box while spouting corp buzz words of being outside it. They like non-original, nonnew ideas to pool from.

And in my experience letting corperate make a choice on their own is bout as smart as leaving a turn on plasma torch in the hands of a retarded pyromaniac lobotomy patient with the weak side of the stroke effected body is reaching out to the torch... and they are on a small hill of freshly thrown away gas cans, all full....next to napalm. "Ohh money rolls in when we are safe and do whatever one else does..." wuff another franchise up in flames.

This may make me seem like the idiot that I am, but, what does DICE stand for?

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