Chances are I would buy Nintendo's latest machines, since I have bought every one of their consoles they have made. With the exception of some of the more obscure ones. | |
^Ditto up until SP. Since then I haven't bought anything handheld-wise from Nintendo. I admit I'd probably go out and buy an HD Wii if one ever came out, but that may be just because I got my actual Wii at 1/4 the cost of current retail. That being said, if the iPad really is just a larger iPod touch (haven't been following the flow of information myself, you see), I can't see myself bothering with it. I didn't jizz myself and rush to the store every time a new nano was released when my original one is still working, so why would I for an over-sized one? | |
Man there seems to be alot of hate on the ipad... this is a chance for Microsoft and HP's Slate to try and fill the void. | |
(On the topic of 3D, not the ipad cause I don't really care about apple). | |
"it will have to study the possible health effects of long-term exposure to 3D graphics" I can assure you that there is no risk of long-term exposure to the Wii. Besides, Avatar was three hours long. Just have someone watch it a few times and that will be all the information you need regarding exposure. Just go ahead and make 3D games, Nintendo; it's not like anyone is going to continue playing them after their friends leave. | |
Gee, "being wrong" sure has worked out well for them. | |
Tomorrow's headline: Apple Exec Unimpressedd With iPad, Loses Jobs. And I agree with Iwata, both on the 3D gaming and iPad platforms. I mean, 3D gaming would be cool--very cool--but now is just not the right time for it. I think this article explains my sentiments better than I can. | |
I'm still giggling at the iWii joke. But I'm not really sold on 3D games or even motion sensors. I don't want realistic, I want to shoot an alien with a 5 ton gun that shoots doom! | |
Wow, the CEO of a company publicly comments that a potentially competing product isn't of any interest? I mean, that's crazy. I fully expected a "this is amazing! Why would anyone want to buy a DS when they could buy this?" and "I really wish we thought of a 3D console, it will completely blow anything we're making out of the water" | |
iPad, I agree with it's stupid just a bigger iPod/iPhone, what would have actually been good is if it was a macbook iPad... fools And 3D gaming will be epic. It's in it's infancy and the technology is a little more invasive than at the theaters but it will develop. I'm very, very excited about 3D gaming. Depth perception will bring games much closer to reality. Some games may not benefit from this a great deal, but many will. Seriously, I can't wait and I will definitly buy 3D glasses when enough media is going that route. Racing games where you can actually see the speed, how fast corners approach... there's a reason that in real life I can drive like Shumacher and first time in any simulation game I'm spinning out in most hard corners. The reason is: Depth Perception (IE: Stereoscopic vision) | |
30 minutes with 3D gaming and you have a headache. Also, you need a really powerful machine for 3D, if you want to enjoy good graphics. | |
I want a Gamecube 2.0, not a more annoying Wii. But yeah, iPad really is just a bigger version of the iPod | |
Ahem...
He has a point though. I'm not into 3D gaming | |
Is it me or is he just unimpressed with basically anything that Nintendo haven't come up with themselves? | |
You mean a PS3? If anyone can do it Sony can. I'm not being a fanboy either. They produced a powerful console, they have the perfect set up to try. More so than any other console. Why? They have a very powerful and now affordable console with a good base, they have the biggest disc size, they run using HD components, all PS3s have a hard drive. They also have experience with making TVs and are a hardware manufacturer. Assuming it's successful in it's infancy, they can sell the idea to other companies, and it can be the new standard. Remember when games all came on a cartridge? Sega and Sony broke that, only Sony was successful. It's now the new standard for consoles (See non-portable). Now the headache thing? Yeah, that can stop a lot of people, here's to hoping though. | |
I'll give Nintendo a chance if they make a 3d style gaming thing...but after i experienced Virtual BOy my eyes still need to adjust from all the red | |
Nice one, Funky. I agree with him on most things he says. The iPad is a bigger iPod touch. Without the great benefit of being able to put it in your pocket. I've never really thought of 3D being a "big" thing in games and I'm not looking forward to it. Oh well, I'll go back to my games and hope 3D isn't one of those "necessary" features in the future. | |
Cant say I blame them...I cant say I am too impressed either! | |
How do you figure 30 minutes would give a headache? I watch all 2.5hrs of Avatar without issues. I realise the technology is a bit different, requiring shutter glasses, but the only real issue that should present is that your image will appear a bit dimmer and of course there's talk about how heavy the glasses are currently. Anyway, people get headaches from all sorts of things, but I'm very headache resistant (unless I drink waaaay too much) so maybe I won't be affected that way? Unless there's some conclusive evidence citing 40% of people who try them get headaches after 30 minutes, I don't believe it. There's always reasons why not to do something new and innovative, but I think this case in particular has far more reasons to do it. And as mentioned, ps3 can handle it... technically it doesn't need that much processing, since the image just fluctuates between "left eye" and "right eye" images with the refresh of your TV, and the shutter glasses go in time with that. Consider any game you play and how quickly you can switch views without any sort of stutter or lag... it's basically the same thing just really, really fast. Granted, I don't know all the specifics but I can't see it being super difficult to pull off... From what I read, they're just going to do a firmware update on PS3 and voila, working 3D technology. Since I have a new 42" Samsung, I should be all set! | |
iPad didn't really interest me either. Or 3D gaming funnily enough. I want my games flat on to stay on the screen where they belong. But I think a Wii HD would sell like hotcakes. | |
What's interesting are the things he's chosen to diss. As pointed out above, competitors products, surely, but why those specific things? To my mind, that's because these are the things he sees as upcoming challenges to Nintendo. If anybody knows what making gaming a "casual" activity can do, it's Iwata.. and one thing the iPad has, and has in spades, is loads of "casual" games already made for it. And in a way, the iPad is a direction Nintendo was already headed -- dual screen gameboy is, in some ways, just a larger screen. What's iPad's big (read:only) draw over the iPhone? The larger screen. Fortunately for Iwata, I think the price points established by Apple means he doesn't need to have a lot of fear over that. And then with 3D gaming, one of the Wii controllers current weaknesses (addressed only somewhat by the motion+) is full 3D motion.. specifically that of toward the screen and back. Oh, I know the controllers can do it, but it's a bit of a struggle to get it to do it well, because they're motion sensing more than position sensing, and the two aren't quite the same thing. | |
Even PCs that are more powerful than the PS3 struggle with 3D. It 'may' be possible but I have severe doubts. | |
This is the internet and no one has picked up on the irony yet? You should all be ashamed of yourselves. | |
Hey for once I totally agree with Nintendo... normally I'm not a big fan of their current stuff (the Wii is okay... but very much not for me)... Seriously the iPad and 3D gaming are big old MEHs. 3D gaming is the biggest meh, people hate wearing the stupid glasses at the movies, only doing it when they have too to see a good movie, so why do they think it's a good idea to try and make us wear them at home? And he's dead right on the health issues, I walked out after Avatar knowing that if I didn't get home, take my migraine preventive pills and then lay down in a dark room with a wet cloth over my eyes I was going to end up at the hospital getting an injection, I already knew it was a killer migraine coming on, and anyone who has ever had one knows when one is coming, the pain is something else. Funny thing is before my Avatar experience I hadn't had or felt a migraine coming on in over 5 god-damn years, only keeping my pills current out of habit rather then need. | |
And Nintendo will be interested in that level of sales when there is a 3 year shortage of hotcakes due to frothing consumer demand. | |
Marching down a golden road, that leads right off a cliff may be all well and good for Nintendo. I'd just rather that they didn't take the whole industry over with them. Or did we all forget that the Wii fad is starting to die out? Anyway, this is all just more pointless blathering by Nintendo execs. No real intelligence or comprehension behind it, just Nintendo spouting their trademark arrogance and ignorance. I just thought of something, actually... I've oft compared Nintendo's recent business practices to those of McDonald's, but now I think they're taking a page out of the Steve Jobs playbook. Apple made crappy, underpowered but slickly designed computers for years. But nearly fell by the wayside due to Steve Jobs arrogance and ignorance about the very industry he claimed to be so knowledgeable of. Now he's rearranged his company to make slickly designed "tech-toys" for rich people. But it still doesn't change the fact that he got hammered by Microsoft and Bill Gates. Nintendo seems to have reacted similarly to years of being dominated by Sony and the Playstation. And now they have their "tech-toy" that they claim makes them an industry leader, but is just a joke to real consumers. | |
Yeah that's a little ironic, but the ds xl is really just a portable game console that is made bigger so as to be marketed to older people, while the ipad was/is expeceted to recreate some technology (in this case the tablet computer) like apple did with mp3's and the smartphones. Instead they just made a giant, $500 ipod touch. | |
Thanks Iwata...we had no idea... | |
The PS3's GPU is worse off than the 360's... | |
Ummm....you all are aware NVIDIA has a 3D system that can run on all GForce 8800+ cards + win7? And is compatible with most games released over the last 4 years? As for Iwata being unimpressed, I think he sees what Apple just done there, with the iBookstore being launched. | |
The method that will be used for 3d TV (initially), (and on PC's), is alternating frame stereoscopic 3d. And the reason for the headaches is pretty simple; So... Headaches... | |
Yeah Nintendo does indeed make crappy, trendy, expensive hardware. No wait they don't. Your analogy fails on numerous levels. And as for "marching off a cliff" they did that already during the 32/64 bit era. And yet they're still here and still doing extremely well. And speaking as a real consumer, I don't consider their ability to stay competitive a joke. Or do I not count because I don't share your vision for "the way things are" | |
I once posted on another website, "The sky is blue." I had hundreds of posters jockeying for an opportunity to disagree with me. I feel this reply runs along the same ideology. And for that reason, I don't care to rebutt it. | |
I kind of wish Nintendo had named their console the iWii. Then, whenever somebody said "iWii", I could interject with, "You certainly do! In your pants, that is!" Okay, perhaps not. But on a related note, concerning some people forming associations between the iPad and feminine hygiene products, I saw a hilarious little comment on YouTube the other day underneath a related 'Hitler Rants' video. I don't remember the exact contents, but this was the gist of it. "Mac's iPad = macsipad = Maxipad" Good times. :) And to include a more related opinion, the reason Nintendo is still afloat, in spite of any hardware-related ineptitude, is that they make really good games. Pokemon, Metriod, Zelda, Super Smash Bros., Starfox, and of course the entire gamut of Mario games (most notably the Mario Kart series) represent some of the best games, and biggest sellers, of all time. I know the only three games I ever owned for my N64 were Mario 64, Zelda: OOT, and the original Smash Bros. and, in spite of the N64 being a POS, these were really good games that I played for a long time. In the modern day we have stuff like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and several representatives of the previously mentioned franchises, and although most are treading old ground they're still quite good games. Think for a moment; have most of the big standout games for the last three Nintendo consoles been 3rd party titles, or Nintendo titles? The point is, I would argue that Nintendo's success has been as much due to their game development and publishing chops as it has the success of their hardware. More so perhaps. I mean come on, after Pokemon the company was pretty much set for the next thirty-odd years, so they could probably afford to kick back and start doing weird stuff with their hardware (hyperbole). | |
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Nintendo's Iwata Unimpressed With iPad, 3D Gaming
Nintendo head honcho Satoru Iwata feels the same way about Apple's much-heralded iPad as he does the prospect of 3D gaming: "Meh."
It looks like Adobe isn't the only tech company not ready to jump on board Apple's iPad train. Speaking with the New York Times, Nintendo chieftain Satoru Iwata said that he was frankly underwhelmed by Apple's new device. "There were no surprises for me," said Iwata, "It was a bigger iPod Touch."
It's intriguing to hear these statements coming from a Nintendo representative, given that the company has effectively been the videogame industry's equivalent of Apple as of late, preferring form and accessibility of use to raw power and customization - and profiting immensely because of it. Hell, just look at the Wii and tell me its "sleek white plastic" appearance doesn't seem like something that Steve Jobs could have first presented to the world (though thankfully, we dodged a bullet on the name iWii).
Do you know what else Iwata isn't thrilled about? 3D gaming, currently spearheaded by Sony (though not so much on Microsoft's end). While Iwata was positive on the idea of 3D movies like James Cameron's ridiculously successful Avatar, he questioned bringing the experience home. "I have doubts whether people will be wearing glasses to play games at home. How is that going to look to other people?"
I'd be tempted to say that Iwata really shouldn't be worrying about that sort of thing given that he makes the "stand up and flail around" console, but that isn't his only hangup, either. Before Nintendo is ready to move into the realm of 3D gaming, says Iwata, it will have to study the possible health effects of long-term exposure to 3D graphics. After all, pointed out the executive, people spend much longer in front of their games than they do a two-hour movie (or hell, even Avatar).
Iwata also took the opportunity to deny rumors that his company was working on a motion-sensitive DS successor or a high-definition Wii. While he admitted that Nintendo's engineers were working on new, top-secret machines, he wasn't sure whether or not those features were things that consumers actually wanted: "I question whether those features would be enough to get people to buy new machines."
Considering that people bought every iteration of the Game Boy ever made, from original to Pocket to Color to Advanced to Advanced SP? I think that they just might be. But hey, this is why he's the head of a multibillion-dollar corporation and I'm not.
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