NO.

Hasn't Watchmen been treated badly enough already? They will NEVER be able to make a film that even approaches the complexity and scope of the graphic novel. This sequel should not be made.

Without Moore it wouldn't be the real thing.

But....so long as you give me Rorshache then I have to admit I'd be interested.

Honestly I think that's why a lot of this kind of stuff gets made, because although someone like me, that might think "ugh, they're right, this isn't adding to the universe, it's thinning it out", if they give me something fun and entertaining with my favorite fedora wearing psychopath (yes that includes Yahtzee) then I'm probably going to give it a go.

On behalf of all who loved Watchmen both as the book and as the movie:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

KILL IT! KILL IT NOW WHILE ITS STILL WEAK!

Absolutely no point whatsoever. The story was told, with enough flashbacks to flesh out the characters' backstories. Any more is a complete waste of time.

This is my not surprised face

I will however enjoy people bitching about it/praising it for the next couple of months, seeing it released to a big fat 'meh', and people getting over it in time for Halo Reach however.

I think a couple of filler episodes of Rorschach's adventures prior to the events of Watchmen, when he was the dirty, violent vigilante in the shadows would be well worth reading.
ALOT that can be done with that, WITHOUT ruining or harming anything of the Watchmen mythos.

Could be good, could be bad.

But I have a feeling that nothing good will ever come from making a sequel to Watchmen.

No!!! This abomination cannot be allowed!!! Alan Moore will explode like an atom bomb and destory half of England if this happens.

Tom Goldman:
Again, I'd still probably buy it anyway, even though it'd make me hate myself a little. Admit it, you would too, even just to see how Watchmen was ruined.

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HyenaThePirate:
I think a couple of filler episodes of Rorschach's adventures prior to the events of Watchmen, when he was the dirty, violent vigilante in the shadows would be well worth reading.
ALOT that can be done with that, WITHOUT ruining or harming anything of the Watchmen mythos.

They sort of did that, have you heard of Watchmen: The End Is Nigh? It was a couple of episodic games that were made for XBL a while ago, it followed Rorschach and Nite Owl taking down some mob boss or another in the back story. General consensus is that it was crap.

Aw man, it's a guarantee that any spin-off they make will be a big steaming pile of crap. Especially with all the corporate meddling I imagine would take place.

Watchmen Origins: Rorshach. Guest starring Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.

considering how the changes the directors made in the first movie were disappointing and incongruous with the rest of the picture (Matrix kung-fu fight scene, anyone? we have plenty!), I'd say that a movie generated entirely from the screenwriters' heads should not happen. the original work had a depth and quality of writing that was competently preserved in the movie, but the movie made it obvious that the writers were not Alan Moore, and should not pretend that they are.

my worst fear is that they'd glamourize the setting or the characters. everyone in Watchmen is fundamentally flawed, and their dysfunction is one of the story's major pillars. I'd hate to see them become some dimestore-heroic cast of archetypes.

I think Rorschach said it best: "No...no, no, no, no, NO! Stupid, stupid, STUPID!"

NO.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

NO, NANKA, NEIN, NON, NEGATORY, NAW, NYET, CAPITAL FUCKING N, CAPITAL FUCKING O.

WORST IDEA EVER.

ALSO, CAPS LOCK = CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME

THAT IS ALL

AnarchistAbe:
Npt true. I would love to see a fully developed movie about the comedian. Either him or Rorshak.

problem being that it would all just be conjecture on the parts of the screenwriters. they don't know the Comedian or Rorschach any better than you or I do, and without Moore's input the work would have no more depth or insight than your typical fanfiction (and may I remind you that Moore is generally as cooperative as a mountain having a sulk).

This is like when I fell in love with Final Fantasy Tactics for being a fantastic story that was self-contained, focused on realistic class-struggles, abuse of power both religiously and royally and so many other adult themes, and remains as the greatest tactical JRPG ever conceived due to its complexity and customization. Then Squenix went and made a "sequel" that made it a bunch of kids getting sucked into their favorite book series called "Final Fantasy", simplifying the combat and turning it into a piece of junk overall.

I avoided that bastardization like the plague, and I'll do the same for whatever bullshit they do to Watchmen.

Heh, but didn't Moore already make, like, half of a tabletop roleplaying universe for Watchmen before the project was scrapped? I don't think Watchmen needs a sequel, it stands up on its own just fine, but it's not like it's blasphemy for a new author or director to explore someone else's setting.

Because that's what Alan Moore did in the first place. All the Minutemen stated off as palette swaps of Charlton Comics characters.

orannis62:

HyenaThePirate:
I think a couple of filler episodes of Rorschach's adventures prior to the events of Watchmen, when he was the dirty, violent vigilante in the shadows would be well worth reading.
ALOT that can be done with that, WITHOUT ruining or harming anything of the Watchmen mythos.

They sort of did that, have you heard of Watchmen: The End Is Nigh? It was a couple of episodic games that were made for XBL a while ago, it followed Rorschach and Nite Owl taking down some mob boss or another in the back story. General consensus is that it was crap.

That was a Game, not a graphic novel or a movie or even a miniseries.
Games can sometimes suck even though the story DOESN'T. For example, Too Human... to be fair, I thought Too Human's story and universe were rather epic and interesting.. but GOD, having to play through the GAME was torturous just to see it through...
another game like that -

Advent Rising

Great story, less than thrilling game play. Now I'll never know how things turned out.

Frankly I see no point of continuation, all the flashbacks elequently explained all the character's pasts as well as the past of the Watchmen universe and everything wrapped up nicely. What would be the point in a sequel or prequel?
Besides given how angry Alan Moore was about people making a movie of his works at all I imagine something like this would be the thing that makes him go supernova and kill everyone in a five hundred mile radius*.

_{* That said I still respect the man as an artist}

NO

NO

NO

NO

RRRAAAAAAARRRRRL

I agree wholeheartedly with the basic theme of this thread. Watchmen is more or less a rebellion against what was the superhero narrative norm of the time, showing complexity and darkness and harsh realism where before there was just "POW!" and "ZOK!" and a total lack of moral ambiguity. To add to it and sensationalize it and franchise it out and turn it into a breakfast cereal and pocket the proceeds stinks of the same unabashed irony as seeing t-shirts with the visages of communist revolutionaries on them in the windows of mega-conglomerate department stores, which would seem funny were not the subject matter so very near and dear.

In translation: ohholyhellkillitwithfire.

my problem isn't that GRRR NO ONE SHOULD DO WATCHMEN EXCEPT MOORE; it's just that the people who in this case would be "doing Watchmen" have already proven that their vision is quite far-removed from Moore's, and can generally be called a significant downgrade.

Uberjoe19:
NO.

Hasn't Watchmen been treated badly enough already? They will NEVER be able to make a film that even approaches the complexity and scope of the graphic novel. This sequel should not be made.

That sounds more like an argument for a new story in the same setting than against one. That way you can have a nice complex film that isn't trying to emulate a comic series. Have a new story work in its own right, from the ground up, for the medium.

AnarchistAbe:

scnj:
Absolutely no point whatsoever. The story was told, with enough flashbacks to flesh out the characters' backstories. Any more is a complete waste of time.

Npt true. I would love to see a fully developed movie about the comedian. Either him or Rorshak.

But why? Everything we need to know about them has already been revealed to us. Especially the Comedian and Rorschach, what with the funeral flashbacks and the lengthy psychiatric review chapter.

Booooooooo!

Damn money grubbers.

There's no need to fear, my friends. Alan Moore will work his mighty beard-magic and intervene to make it unhappen.

And this is why Alan Moore hates comic book executives. But no, I would not buy it. I would illegally download it off of the internet just to say, "Suck it."

DO NOT WANT! ABORT MISSION! This isn't just another superhero franchise that can be turned into a money machine. The story Watchmen told ended, and anything else would detract from it rather than add.

ThrobbingEgo:

Uberjoe19:
NO.

Hasn't Watchmen been treated badly enough already? They will NEVER be able to make a film that even approaches the complexity and scope of the graphic novel. This sequel should not be made.

That sounds more like an argument for a new story in the same setting than against one. That way you can have a nice complex film that isn't trying to emulate a comic series. Have a new story work in its own right, from the ground up, for the medium.

My problem is that the studio was unable to make a movie that was even half-way decent with the original, excellent source material. If they were to try to dream up a new story by themselves, I shudder to think what they could inflict upon fans of Watchmen.

The movie was bad enough because they didn't want to piss off Alan Moore. There was no difference between it and the Graphic novel except for the thing that killed everybody. It blew. Since you can't play around in the universe (literally) then how could you expand or add to it. They did a sight for sight remake of the Graphic Novel of God and put it to motion. There was no point in seeing it if you read it and no point enjoying the orriginal if you've seen the movie.

rosemystica:
There's no need to fear, my friends. Alan Moore will work his mighty beard-magic and intervene to make it unhappen.

You know Alan Moore is an actual practitioner of magic, right?

Aside from that, any contributions to Watchmen that don't involve Alan Moore are likely to be bastardised fan fiction. I'm not saying someone else like a Warren Ellis or Grant Morrison couldn't do amazing things with the Universe if they were allowed to, but they should have the decency not to, since it's not a continuous series. While Moore himself did amazing things for another Comic book, Swamp Thing, resurrecting it and giving it new vision and direction which was revolutionary, the original subject matter wasn't something revolutionary in and of itself. Remember, we're talking about one of the greatest 100 books of all time, as judged by Time magazine and a revolution in terms of what type of story a comic book can tell and how that story is told.

It's like deciding to go back and make a prequel of Lord of the Rings that has nothing to do with The Hobbit, then wondering why people didn't like it. If DiDio has money to throw at this, he should be trying to use it to create new revolutionary titles which will assume such a magnificent place among both critical acclaim and DC's wallets, but that's too hard.

This is almost as stupid as that talk about a 300 sequel that was going around a bit back... almost...

I might read it but I would NOT buy it. I don't want to monetarily support this kind of bullshit.