FF13 Producer Explains Why FF7 Remake is Unlikely

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FF13 Producer Explains Why FF7 Remake is Unlikely

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According to Final Fantasy XIII Producer Yoshinori Kitase, there are actual reasons why Final Fantasy VII hasn't been remade other than "because Square-Enix hates money."

Longtime readers of The Escapist may have noticed my fondness for lengthy recaps when news posts have important backstories, but in this case, the recap doesn't need to be lengthy at all: Obsessed Final Fantasy VII fanboys have been slavering for a modern remake for years, and despite teasing from Square-Enix, the official word is "No, it's not happening right now, stop asking."

But why isn't it happening? A remake of Final Fantasy VII would easily sell millions of copies worldwide, and the story, characters, and gameplay mechanics all already exist - does Square-Enix just hate the thought of millions of fanboy dollars flooding its coffers? In the latest issue of Ultimania, FF13 producer Yoshinori Kitase admitted that there were technical difficulties presenting themselves that made a remake unlikely.

Intriguingly enough, the FF7 info came to light in reference to the studio's newest game. In answering questions about the lack of traditional towns and the overall linearity of Final Fantasy XIII, the game's director Motomu Toriyama said that part of it was due to the difficulty of working in such a demanding graphical environment. "[A non-stop story] is one of the reasons, but more importantly, it is a result of considering HD graphics will be the mainstream. Considering the amount of work to make graphics that deserve HD, it is hard to make towns in the conventional style."

Kitase echoed those statements, saying that the same problem was one of the reasons Squeenix wasn't working on a remake of its groundbreaking PS1 title. "This issue is related to whether a Final Fantasy 7 remake will happen or not. It is very hard to make games on PlayStation 3 in the same style as the games in that era had. Making graphics will take enormous time."

I'm not quite sure I buy it, seeing as how the studio did a decent job with the infamous 2006 tech demo - is he just saying that it would be too hard to render environments and graphics in modern technology, while still being faithful to the original game in a way that won't send the diehard fans into a frothing rage of "They changed it, now it sucks!"?

Either way, it would be nice if someone made a magical device that tracked down anyone in the world who asked or otherwise whined about a Final Fantasy VII remake and kicked them in the groin. Enough is enough already: Can we please stop talking about it now?

(Via Videogamer)

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I can see how that would stop them. Alas, my dreams of a God game is sadly crushed now. But a Demi-god is just as good.

Pff, look who's making up excuses. I think they just realized they can make a lot more money by making side-projects. An actual remake of FF7 would make those side projects less viable as they'd have to have actual quality.

They just don't want to piss everyone off by telling them the game won't sell as well as they would like. Yes, Final Fantasy VII was widely popular, but there in is the problem. Your core demographic already owns it. Granted you will get some repeat purchasers, but cutting out a percentage of your previous purchasing demographic is not a great way to start a release.

I remember a time when I used to think the exact same things, "why don't they do a remake it. It would make billions and single handedly sell the ps3!!!!". Now, I would be much more interested in a new experience than reliving the same world in shinier bloom and sharper edges.

Nobody will ever spot talking about it, unfortunately. Well there is one way... but that requires the remake to be made, and then 99% of the people asking for the remake will just bitch about how everything is changed. (These people will never be happy.) However, every single one of them will still buy the game for some reason, so I don't know what they'll get worked up about.

But as for Kitase's problem, Blue has a solution: If graphics are the problem, then just make it on the PS2. Dust off FFXII's engine, whatever needs to be done, do it. I don't need my games to #%&!ing sparkle, just look good enough that the characters appear human, which sadly, is something the original FFVII didn't do. The current gen is hardly much better than the last one, graphics-wise anyway. Who cares?

I would gladly buy a graphical update to Final Fantasy VII.

The original 1996 Resident Evil received a gorgeous remake that absolutely destroyed the original in every conceivable way. Usually the originals have things to love, but aside from the horrendous dialogue there is absolutely no reason to play the original version of Resident Evil.

If they could achieve something similar with Final Fantasy VII my head would explode and I would have a new game to judge all other games by.

Graphical problems what?

Do the tech demo and Advent Children not count or something?

The ironic thing here is that when the new technology can't do something that has been fundemental to games (detailed town designs and such), for whatever reason, I can't truely see that technology as being better. If this is honest, that is quite a limitation, regardless of what it stems from.

Overall though I think it basically amounts to them saying it would take too much time to develop, during which they could cr@p out three other products of lesser quality to what a townscape or remake would require.

As far as Final Fantasy XIII being too linear, I've already pre-ordered it, that does not sound good given that Final Fantasy games were always fairly linear, but I'm enough of a genere fan where I'll give it a shot. If I really wind up not liking it I'll take it out on the next game in the series by refusing to buy it, or the spiritual successor if they indeed end the Final Fantasy label.

Slycne:
They just don't want to piss everyone off by telling them the game won't sell as well as they would like. Yes, Final Fantasy VII was widely popular, but there in is the problem. Your core demographic already owns it. Granted you will get some repeat purchasers, but cutting out a percentage of your previous purchasing demographic is not a great way to start a release.

Some repeat purchasers? I loved FF7 the best of the series and worthy of most of the praise it recieved. But now when I would try and play it its dated everything gets to me, Aeris death was one of the most moving of all time, but watch that same scene a decade on I just keep thinking of how she looks nothing like say Advent childrens Aeris which I thought was a very good design. I would by a PS3 if they announced the full remake on this to experience the same game I did then without be dogged by modern expectations.

Dectilon:
Pff, look who's making up excuses. I think they just realized they can make a lot more money by making side-projects. An actual remake of FF7 would make those side projects less viable as they'd have to have actual quality.

Yo could argue that a remake makes the extension more relatable for a younger audience who have not played FF 7 (yet). But I guess their thinking is a lot along your line unfortunately.

In the end I reckon this is a case of severe mismanagement. How high the production costs might be it would pay off. And at the end of the day Square might even lower their unreasonable high expectancies for cut scenes this time a tiny bit.

Slycne:
They just don't want to piss everyone off by telling them the game won't sell as well as they would like. Yes, Final Fantasy VII was widely popular, but there in is the problem. Your core demographic already owns it. Granted you will get some repeat purchasers, but cutting out a percentage of your previous purchasing demographic is not a great way to start a release.

I remember a time when I used to think the exact same things, "why don't they do a remake it. It would make billions and single handedly sell the ps3!!!!".

I don't even own a PS3 and I would buy it. Granted, I have full access to my roommate's PS3 which basically makes it mine...

Still, I would buy it without a thought.

Hehe...the fanboys almost started erratically salivating again. And now it's like you shot their puppy. Well, maybe not that bad. Maybe just a goldfish that you liked died. Nice pass along, Funk, it's good to know that Squeenix actually has considered it, and that in their dedication, they would have to make a whole new FF, with identical story and characters as a previous one. Interesting that they say it's not gonna happen yet, at least we know there's still quality control functioning at Squeenix.

I still maintain this comes from a crippling fear of money and success. If they were to kickstart the FFVII machine again, they could get a whole load of money by releasing teasers, tidbits, sequel games, anime series, whatever they wanted, while working on the main game.

I think part of the issue may also be to do with the people that worked on the old game. They may honestly think that the old one was perfect, and so there's not point in, he. I can't finish that sentence with a straight face.

I don't think they've got any good reasons for not remaking it. They would make money hand over fist if they did.

Maybe they're just saving it for the 20th Anniversay of FFVII's release? - That's seven years from now, give or take a week.

Not bothered. FFXIII looks pretty sweet and if I really wanted to play FFVII I could just, well, play it.

Can't say I'm buying that as a plausible excuse. Almost every single game these days uses full 3D environments, and for things a lot bigger than the towns they had in FF7. Also, I would be surprised if they couldn't just borrow some art assets from Advent Children for the characters if nothing else. There certainly would be a cost involved, as there is in all big game development these days, but that's just a lame excuse when put that way.

Maybe the perceived audience just really isn't that big for a remake of a game, even a well loved one.

BlueHighwind:

If graphics are the problem, then just make it on the PS2. Dust off FFXII's engine, whatever needs to be done, do it. I don't need my games to #%&!ing sparkle, just look good enough that the characters appear human, which sadly, is something the original FFVII didn't do. The current gen is hardly much better than the last one, graphics-wise anyway. Who cares?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

You gotta be kidding, right? Why would Square Enix waste their time making a game for a console that has been replaced by the PS3? Many people don't need graphics to sparkle, heck, I even get a kick out of the 3D N64 graphics. But most gamers just drool over shiny tinfoil, and anything that isn't shiny gets:

"That game? But the graphics suck."

Not to mention the fact that the remake is wanted primarily for the better graphics.

Although I would love to see a re-make for FF7, I understand it is very unlikely to happen, and, if it does I bet it wont be for a long time.

I just wish people would let this rest...

Epitome:

Slycne:
They just don't want to piss everyone off by telling them the game won't sell as well as they would like. Yes, Final Fantasy VII was widely popular, but there in is the problem. Your core demographic already owns it. Granted you will get some repeat purchasers, but cutting out a percentage of your previous purchasing demographic is not a great way to start a release.

Some repeat purchasers? I loved FF7 the best of the series and worthy of most of the praise it recieved. But now when I would try and play it its dated everything gets to me, Aeris death was one of the most moving of all time, but watch that same scene a decade on I just keep thinking of how she looks nothing like say Advent childrens Aeris which I thought was a very good design. I would by a PS3 if they announced the full remake on this to experience the same game I did then without be dogged by modern expectations.

Yes, some. As in more than none, but less than all or most. I already prove that all is impossible and I would hazard a guess that maybe even most wouldn't either. Let's say even if a majority of previous owners bought it 49% or less is still a lot of people. Just because you would doesn't mean everyone else will.

If they're not going to make it then could they please stop telling us that they're not going to make it?

Slycne:
They just don't want to piss everyone off by telling them the game won't sell as well as they would like. Yes, Final Fantasy VII was widely popular, but there in is the problem. Your core demographic already owns it. Granted you will get some repeat purchasers, but cutting out a percentage of your previous purchasing demographic is not a great way to start a release.

I remember a time when I used to think the exact same things, "why don't they do a remake it. It would make billions and single handedly sell the ps3!!!!". Now, I would be much more interested in a new experience than reliving the same world in shinier bloom and sharper edges.

You make a fair point there. However I know some people that won't play it because of the low resolution graphics and when I put forward the idea of a remake they said they would buy it. The may not have everyone repeat purchasing but they would also have a lot of people buying it because it looks less horrible.

Me? Well I play it anyway because it's a good game (although I preferred VIII) but if they did remake it I would probably buy it.

How can graphics be a limitation? FFXII was pretty conservative with its towns. Couldn't they decide not to have over-the-top graphics?

Some day. It will happen. I don't think it should even be completely faithful, as long as they story doesn't get messed around. As for the argument that it wont sell because people already own it, doesn't hold up.

The game is over a decade old. There is a whole new generation of gamers who only heard about FF7 retroactively.

Dark Templar:
Graphical problems what?

Do the tech demo and Advent Children not count or something?

No, because it was a demo, and that was a movie.

They said it'd take such a long time, and too much resources to make a whole game like that. Also, a movie takes a far shorter time to animate than a game.

And I'm definitely one of the people who'd love it. I also agree with BlueHighwind, why not just do it with PS2 graphics?
If I ever grow up to be a millionaire, I will pay them to do it.

even if it was a change in terms of how the towns where presented id still take a HD remake with both hands if everything was left the same!. im even replaying ff7 right now just got out of mideel with cloud yayyy!

John Funk:
Either way, it would be nice if someone made a magical device that tracked down anyone in the world who asked or otherwise whined about a Final Fantasy VII remake and kicked them in the groin. Enough is enough already: Can we please stop talking about it now?

I have never agreed with anything you've written more than this paragraph. Groin kicking: Because asking nicely isn't anywhere near as funny.

John Funk:
Kitase: "It is very hard to make games on PlayStation 3 in the same style as the games in that era had. Making graphics will take enormous time."

Read: Cloud crossdresses in this game. Are you sure you want to see that in HD?

"Considering the amount of work to make graphics that deserve HD, it is hard to make towns in the conventional style."

DO NOT LET GRAPHICS DICTATE THE GAME, LET GAMEPLAY DICTACTE GRAPHICS!!!
Yeah, I really needed to yell that. Trust me...

I don't care if the town has a billion polygons and is HR-HD awesome looking.
If the game benefits from towns then make towns with millions of polygons instead, DUH!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, millions of people today play games from the NES and SNES era. Playstation 1 titles like FF7 and MGS are still awesome dispite looking like "poo" from a HD graphics perspective.

Don't gamestudios know those things or what? :O

I find it ironic how you ask for remake to stop being talked about, yet almost every week i've seen a new redundant article about it
Also, stop insulting your readers, not everyone who wants to see that game again is a fanboy (true story)

While I always secretly wished for a remake I never whined about it and never expected it to happen. I was extremely happy when they made it available for download on PSN though.

Epitome:

Slycne:
They just don't want to piss everyone off by telling them the game won't sell as well as they would like. Yes, Final Fantasy VII was widely popular, but there in is the problem. Your core demographic already owns it. Granted you will get some repeat purchasers, but cutting out a percentage of your previous purchasing demographic is not a great way to start a release.

Some repeat purchasers? I loved FF7 the best of the series and worthy of most of the praise it recieved. But now when I would try and play it its dated everything gets to me, Aeris death was one of the most moving of all time, but watch that same scene a decade on I just keep thinking of how she looks nothing like say Advent childrens Aeris which I thought was a very good design. I would by a PS3 if they announced the full remake on this to experience the same game I did then without be dogged by modern expectations.

I hate the internet sometimes- I can't read the phrase "of all time" now without thinking of that weird guy at that award ceremony.
With FF7, it had a lot of very strong points and good gameplay, but I don't see it as really that great. Well, actually, I do think it diserves a good bit of the praise it gets, but when one considers all its shortcomings, I don't see it as that far above other Final Fantasy games. I mean, I found the world and comedic moments in FF8 to be more interesting, and social dynamics of FF9 captured my attention and whimsy more than 7. I guess I don't understand what people see in it that makes it superior to its like-numbered relatives, which are all quality games.

Also, considering how they've just released a ff5 remake for handhelds, who wants to bet that we're not going to get a FF7 mini in a few years, instead?

Izerous:
While I always secretly wished for a remake I never whined about it and never expected it to happen. I was extremely happy when they made it available for download on PSN though.

Very true. I'm glad that Square-Enix has decided to focus on new projects.

Kenjitsuka:
"Considering the amount of work to make graphics that deserve HD, it is hard to make towns in the conventional style."

DO NOT LET GRAPHICS DICTATE THE GAME, LET GAMEPLAY DICTACTE GRAPHICS!!!
Yeah, I really needed to yell that. Trust me...

I don't care if the town has a billion polygons and is HR-HD awesome looking.
If the game benefits from towns then make towns with millions of polygons instead, DUH!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, millions of people today play games from the NES and SNES era. Playstation 1 titles like FF7 and MGS are still awesome dispite looking like "poo" from a HD graphics perspective.

Don't gamestudios know those things or what? :O

You seem to be under the false assumption that game studios know anything about gaming. I'm amazed that most game devs can manage to get their pants on correctly.

What we really need is a FFVIII remake so that I can see (renamed renoa) use (renamed angelo) cannon in HD.

(Hey, a spoony reference xD) Hur hur hur.

Kenjitsuka:
"Considering the amount of work to make graphics that deserve HD, it is hard to make towns in the conventional style."

DO NOT LET GRAPHICS DICTATE THE GAME, LET GAMEPLAY DICTACTE GRAPHICS!!!
Yeah, I really needed to yell that. Trust me...

I don't care if the town has a billion polygons and is HR-HD awesome looking.
If the game benefits from towns then make towns with millions of polygons instead, DUH!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, millions of people today play games from the NES and SNES era. Playstation 1 titles like FF7 and MGS are still awesome dispite looking like "poo" from a HD graphics perspective.

Don't gamestudios know those things or what? :O

If they aren't going t omake it look as good as humanly possible what is the point? You want gameplay? Go play the original on the PSN.

Today's games tend to be much shorter because of the cost to make these graphics, so i can see how making a huge game like FFVII with top notch graphics can cost so much that they are unsure to sell enough to pay for the development cost.

Doing it is feasible. Doing it with a reasonable budget, maybe not so.

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