New Copies of Alan Wake Shine Brighter Than Used

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New Copies of Alan Wake Shine Brighter Than Used

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Microsoft will include more of Alan Wake's Bright Falls adventure if you give the company your money directly rather than to a second-hand store.

If you've already watched the brand new Alan Wake trailer and thought it looked good, but still were going to wait to get a used copy for a few bucks less, there may be a reason to purchase the factory-sealed copy instead. Microsoft has announced that new copies of Alan Wake will include a code for free content that the used will not, unless the people that trade in the used copies don't have the wherewithal to use the codes.

Such an inclusion is becoming the norm as publishers struggle to get gamers to purchase more new games and to ignore the sometimes only slightly-cheaper used games found at retailers such as GameStop. The most prominent example would be EA's "Project Ten Dollar," where it includes free DLC with new games such as Mass Effect 2's Cerberus Network.

Alan Wake's first DLC pack wasn't detailed, but it'll cost a premium for anyone that doesn't buy the game new. Maybe Alan will get an extra big flashlight to kill whatever the hell he has to fight that I still can't figure out from the trailer.

Extra content for supporting a game's developer/publisher is always a good thing, but it requires that a large chunk of consumers actually know about it to have an effect. I'm absolutely for methods such as these that give the creators of a game a revenue stream from all people that purchase it, but seemingly don't harm those that buy a used copy. Free extra content will only become more prevalent as time goes on, but whether it'll actually make a difference or not is the question.

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Uh-oh.

This is a worrying trend indeed.

I don't really have a problem with this; if you're buying second-hand you're essentially playing the game without the people that made it seeing any of the money (sort of).

Anyway, buying second-hand games makes me feel dirty. And not in a good way.

Looks like the days of the noble pirate are coming to an end...

I love this trend. The free content isn't necessary to enjoy the games, but rather a nice bonus. As long as game feels complete without this free stuff, I see no reason not to do this.

On the other hand, if the games feels incomplete without it, then we should worry.

So far, the only game that feel incomplete without it is Bad Company 2. The VIP code offers too much multiplayer stuff.

Mass Effect 2 was fine without the DLC, as was Dragon Age. And I should know. I played them on my 360 without access to the internet, so I couldn't even download the content.

tomtom94:
Uh-oh.

This is a worrying trend indeed.

Ill say...all does not bode well with this, at all

Woodsey:
I don't really have a problem with this; if you're buying second-hand you're essentially playing the game without the people that made it seeing any of the money (sort of).

The same could be said of virtually anything bought second hand. Do the clothing companies get money for clothes you buy second-hand? Do car manufacturers see anything from used car sales? On and on, down the list, the answer is no.

Woodsey:
I don't really have a problem with this; if you're buying second-hand you're essentially playing the game without the people that made it seeing any of the money (sort of).

Anyway, buying second-hand games makes me feel dirty. And not in a good way.

Its not just me then, i HATE buying 2nd hand games,i hate the thought that its not really mine, its someone elses, i also hate that it dosent have that new game smell, you guys know what im talking about, I also have the same problem with pokemon that im not the OT xD

Randvek:

Woodsey:
I don't really have a problem with this; if you're buying second-hand you're essentially playing the game without the people that made it seeing any of the money (sort of).

The same could be said of virtually anything bought second hand. Do the clothing companies get money for clothes you buy second-hand? Do car manufacturers see anything from used car sales? On and on, down the list, the answer is no.

I suppose, but apart from cars I don't think there's much that I'd ever buy second hand.

I see no reason for developers/publishers to not put this in place (assuming it stays at the level it is now, and doesn't block you from half the bloody game or something).

Look game publishers. You get your cut, now stop being so fucking greedy! Used games are a god send to people who quite frankly, can't afford the 60 bucks you charge us! If you want people to buy the games new, then lower the fucking prices already! /rant

nope, it's not worrying at all

where i am, if you wait like 1-2months the game is usually half price

Woodsey:
I don't really have a problem with this; if you're buying second-hand you're essentially playing the game without the people that made it seeing any of the money (sort of).

Anyway, buying second-hand games makes me feel dirty. And not in a good way.

Well, if the person who traded the game in uses the cash for more new games, then thats good for the developers. If it wasnt for trading in, some might not buy as many brand new games

Patrick_and_the_ricks:
Looks like the days of the noble pirate are coming to an end...

I think its a good anti piracy measure, and a good measure to get revenue from second hand games, as long as its still a complete game without the DLC

I work at a Gamestop in Arizona, and I can tell you first hand that at the very least 4 out of 10 copies that get traded in of any game still have the preorder content or what have you unused inside. And you can just walk in, open the case, take it, and leave. Most clerks, myself included, won't care in the slightest.

rynocerator:
I work at a Gamestop in Arizona, and I can tell you first hand that at the very least 4 out of 10 copies that get traded in of any game still have the preorder content or what have you unused inside. And you can just walk in, open the case, take it, and leave. Most clerks, myself included, won't care in the slightest.

actually if you can believe it, i bought Splinter Cell Double Agent second hand for xbox 360 last week and the 48hr xbox live trail was still in it! that's 4yrs old!

As long as the extra content isn't imperative to the core gameplay, I think this is a good thing. Everyone likes something for free...even if it will actually cost $60 instead of $30 or something like that.

Macgyvercas:
Look game publishers. You get your cut, now stop being so fucking greedy! Used games are a god send to people who quite frankly, can't afford the 60 bucks you charge us! If you want people to buy the games new, then lower the fucking prices already! /rant

How much do you think it costs to make a game? This isn't greed, this is giving people who pay more, more. Big deal.

Maybe the trick is to start making games that people won't swiftly return.

Back in the days you would often get a nice box, proper manual, and some various goodies that came with a new, shiny game purchase. Now you get free DLC.
I cant see it as bad thing to compensate for the DVD box release which pretty much is just a game disc and cd-key.

And really, as much as id love game prices to be a bit lower, excusing yourself with 2nd hand games just because you dont want to dish out 60 ucks for a fresh copy is pretty much just like excuses for piracy.
You dont need to own every single game on the market and if you save up 2 bucks / day you can get a new game every month. The decent ones dont even come out that often :P

tomtom94:
Uh-oh.

This is a worrying trend indeed.

Soon you won't be able to finish the game unless its a new copy.

This is a great idea. It actually makes a used game "used." As in it's lesser than the new copy. Good. There is an incentive to buy a new copy versus a used copy just like with any other used goods.

I hope they keep this up. I'm a new game buyer and I do it to support the game's developers. People who choose to save a whole $5 at Gamestop with a used copy enrages me more than anything simply because they give license to Gamestop to keep cheating the devs out of their royalties.

And I don't buy the accessibility crap people always spout when talking about the used market. If saving $5-$10 is what you call making a $60 title accessible then I'm calling BS on you. Used games should be selling for a very small fraction of the cost of a new game so as to; a. not compete with new game sales; and b. not to take royalty returns from the hands of the people who made the games.

It's certainly not going to make a difference for those people who have been robbed of the choice of being able to play this game on the PC, that is for certain.

As for the New vs. Used debate, I am neutral on the matter. While buying a new copy is often better (since used copies can be unreliable; plus, as someone mentioned, the "smell" of a new game... =)) and it benefits the developer much more, I am not sure if it is fair to mark the purchase of used copies as "morally wrong". Some people just can't afford to purchase games at full prices, so they take a willing risk by buying a potentially unreliable used copy.

Besides, it's not like the developer does not benefit at least indirectly. If someone buys a used copy of a game from a specific company and they like it, it makes it more likely that they will purchase a new copy of another game from that same company. Also, if nothing else, the developer at least gained profit from the original purchase and a game can only switch hands so many times before it becomes unusable.

I love the idea, you're rewarded for buying new and not just pre-ordering. Pre-order bonus + new copy bonuses= a nice deal for $60.
I hope this takes off, I really do, it annoys the hell out of me when someone buys a used game that's only $5 cheaper than a new copy. People want to whine about the price of the games but wonders why games aren't selling.

I do want to support the developers of the games I buy but I can barely afford new games, the prices are just ridiculous, I rarely buy games at full price, I either wait for a good deal or go second had(if it's a big difference in price, not a measly $10-$20)
So instead of this DLC idea they seem to have how about making the games cheaper?

I wouldn't be worried about this trend if Microsoft would solve their marketplace issues. Often I have purchased a factory sealed game, only for the fucking marketplace to tell me I can't download that extra shit from my (XBOX Live supported, mind you) location.

this doesn't really bother me, since I play on a PC and there isn't a market for used games on that.

Low Key:
As long as the extra content isn't imperative to the core gameplay, I think this is a good thing. Everyone likes something for free...even if it will actually cost $60 instead of $30 or something like that.

You lucky bastard, where I live the difference for a new game is about $5, which makes this deal so much more worth it.

Randvek:
Do car manufacturers see anything from used car sales? On and on, down the list, the answer is no.

Yes they do, they own Used Car dealerships.

aaronmcc:

rynocerator:
I work at a Gamestop in Arizona, and I can tell you first hand that at the very least 4 out of 10 copies that get traded in of any game still have the preorder content or what have you unused inside. And you can just walk in, open the case, take it, and leave. Most clerks, myself included, won't care in the slightest.

actually if you can believe it, i bought Splinter Cell Double Agent second hand for xbox 360 last week and the 48hr xbox live trail was still in it! that's 4yrs old!

Man i believe it! I still find Flashback Map packs for Gears 2, Live trials for Halo 3, and other stuff all the time! Most people don't use them, I guess.

To me this is a pretty awesome trend. It is a form of anti-piracy that is pro-consumer. Does it stop piracy? Hell no. If someone wanted Alan Wake without paying for it, there's still the JTAG hack, and when the DLC comes out that will be released for JTAG boxes.
Besides pirates who does this hurt? Gamestop... and I suppose gamestop customers. Though really, just don't buy this game used and it won't be an issue unless gamestop is smart enough to make the launch week used price around $45 to factor in the loss of value due to it being used.
Seriously more companies should include nice buyer incentives that help the consumer and the consumer alone.

sheic99:
Yes they do, they own Used Car dealerships.

So your solution is for video game companies to start up their own used videogame dealerships? Interesting idea... I wonder if someone big like EA or Activision could make that fly.

Soon these companies will be breaking into our homes and stealing our kids pocket money.

Wow, this is one of the worst things ever. And it managed to sneak up on us as well.

Bastards, stop charging me extra money for the full game. I'm willing to pay retail, but not if you're deliberately keeping stuff out in order to coax new buyers.

Randvek:

sheic99:
Yes they do, they own Used Car dealerships.

So your solution is for video game companies to start up their own used videogame dealerships? Interesting idea... I wonder if someone big like EA or Activision could make that fly.

It's really not that bad of an idea. Cut out the middle man and sell the product the way you want it to be sold rather than all this ridiculous bullshit.

Cody211282:
this doesn't really bother me, since I play on a PC and there isn't a market for used games on that.

I'm kind of with you there, tho i think its a good thing. my brother is a console guy, all he usually does is buy a couple of game then trade two back for another one, so for every two he buys he gets one free and the price of the used games is huge for a USED item. the retailers must be making a huge profit of them, disadvantaging devs, and ... yeah i guess im a bit jealous of not being able to get the creeper used stuff with THE EXACT SAME CONTENT as the new stuff.. tho we pc guys do get those sweet sweet steam sales.

EnzoHonda:
This is a great idea. It actually makes a used game "used." As in it's lesser than the new copy. Good. There is an incentive to buy a new copy versus a used copy just like with any other used goods.

this. previously used games weren't really used as you missed out on nothing for them, but as Enzo says now they are actually "used"

They be on Youtube after like a day so why bother.

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