Nintendo Considering Subscription Fees

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Nintendo Considering Subscription Fees

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Nintendo's flirtations with online gaming have always been cautious, but it admits it needs to become more open in its relationship with the internet, and your wallet.

Nintendo is looking to alter its approach to online content by exploring different levels of paid subscription, Shigeru Miyamoto said. "Do we need to demand customers pay monthly fees to enjoy online activities? Or give an online subscription that is free of charge, but then offer something extra for people that pay, so that they get some extra value? With these core business strategies I think we are less active than we should be," Miyamoto said.

While Miyamoto said Nintendo wants to approach its online model with a higher level of business sense, he denied user complaints that Nintendo's online service is lacking. "To be honest, I think it's rather unfair whenever I hear such comments - that Nintendo isn't proactive when it comes to its online strategy," Miyamoto said. "The fact of the matter is that we always want all Wii consoles to be connected online, all the time, so Nintendo has never been less than proactive in that kind of endeavor."

Although Miyamoto mentioned the possibility of extra content for subscribers as a potential business method, in general Nintendo is satisfied with the online service it is offering, he said. "...[W]hen it comes to our endeavors that try to take advantage of internet technology, where we can provide our customers with more fun and entertainment, then I think we can say we have been very, very proactive and well-received," Miyamoto said. "And that attitude won't be changed at all in the future."

Source: Edge

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No...subscription will not work with nintendo less they get rid of there friend codes. Full Stop.

I refuse to pay for it if it ever comes to this. Why the hell should you have to pay for contents thats should have been on the damn disk? Unless its quality and reasonably priced, I will consider it., but until then, never.

Also, paying money to play a game...that isn't an mmorpg? Ruining yourself...

I don't think I'm the only one but...

Who else gets the feeling nintendo never knows what the hell they're talking about?

Or that they are always 5 yeras late to the show on EVERYTHING?

Actually I will say that Miyamoto is right on that, that all Wii consoles unless not set up by the user are always online. However, it should also be noted that when it comes to the user they really don't think they are online in the traditional sense when using a wii. Also the amount of use for the wii to be considered online is very small because to gamers we think about playing a game online, not leaderboards or wii shop channel.

What do they have to offer that is worth paying a subscript fee for?

They just want to take full advantage of the vast amount of stupidity available for exploitation in the game community. You know there will be people who won't even think twice about paying them any amount of money for little to nothing in return.

These ideas piss me off.

I'd like to know why, once I've bought a game, I must then pay again to "unlock" half (the multiplayer/co-op side) of it.

I suppose that this makes me glad that I hardly use any of the online content for my Wii.

Well, they are looking in the right directions, they need to expand into the internet if they want to remain in the profits, however...they need to be careful how they do it

Why? Nintendo you have about 70 million sales of the Wii alone, you are rolling in money you don't need to charge it and the friends code is an abomination on good online interface

if they do this I will personally fly out to japan head to their main office and bitch slap the people who thought that it was a good idea

As Miyamoto said, a lot of Wii's are hooked to the internet now, the problem is there is no reason to use it other than the shop channel. Do they expoect people to pay for that dreadful Nintendo Week infomercial they put up every week? I never use my consoles for online play, I just don't like it but I do like being able to download games. However, I won't pay a subscription fee to be able to give them more money. If they added demos or maybe make it so you can download a full game for a set amount of time in a rental type arrangement then maybe a subscription fee wouldn't be that bad. As it stands though, Nintendo has nothing that is worth paying for in terms of an internet presense.

I like how he hand waves away criticism of the online service rather than trying to address the problem. If that many people are really complaining of it, perhaps it would be wise to change it.

Preferably in ways aren't just tacking on a subscription fee.

Antari:
They just want to take full advantage of the vast amount of stupidity available for exploitation in the game community. You know there will be people who won't even think twice about paying them any amount of money for little to nothing in return.

True that. There's a sucker born every minute. And most of them own game consoles and/or new cars.

The thing is that MS was able to get a lot of 360 owners to sign onto their pay-for service because a lot of those games play online every day. There are very few wii owners who play every day and even less have ever played with the wii online. The trick for them will be to get people to even know that they "can" pay for... whatever nintendo says they'll get with premium online.

The problem they're going to find is that most wii owners aren't really hardcore gamers, and thus not as likely to be suckered into schemes like this.

And pay for an online interface that sucks?

At least my 360 gives me stuff like Party Chat.

Plurralbles:
Or that they are always 5 years late to the show on EVERYTHING?

I am not sure how old you are, but maybe you can't remember that most of the hardware features that we now considere "standard" were invented at nintendo. They developed the basic four button set up with a d-pad to move, they created rumble, they were the first to have memory cards. Now everyone is jumping on the motion sensing band wagon. Really Other than being slow on introducing full size disks and HD they pretty much lead the industry in design. I do agree with you that there are often disappointments in the area of software development. I would enjoy a better online service as well. And Myamoto sounds silly just dismissing complaints, but they still rake in the cash, and I still enjoy their products.

which games are actualy fun online for example SSBB is way more fun ofline

really this generation nintendo is pretty much out of the online game, the friend codes really hampered things altho monster hunter tri is fucken awesome online and they bypassed friend codes

really its going to be nintendo's next console that will have a bigger online element, Im hoping its free and none of that microsoft bullshit of paying to play multi but then again I mostly do pc games online anyway

Right now, Nintendo's internet services can be discribed as "patchy" at best. Sure, Mario Kart Wii has a fine matchmaking system (shame the items are broken), but SSBB is an example of a lacking system. And, yes, I agree: Friend Codes is a drag. Certainly, I wouldn't pay money for it.

Right.

Subscription fees for a non Hi-Def console that would offer what exactly..?

I fail to see the point. If Sony attempted it, I would consider it rather fair. Really. But the Wii? Get the hell out of here.

They were a bit too cryptic about what advantages you might get out of being a paying customer, but it sounds vaguely similar to the same system that the Xbox uses. If you don't want to pay, nobody is forcing you to. As long as they still provide system and game updates for free, and perhaps charge for MP, then who is that going to hurt? Most people I know get together in the same room to play on a Wii, so let them experiment with the system to test the waters to see if it is even worth doing. After a quarter or two, they will certain have their evidence as to whether this is a good or bad idea. At least give them credit for wanting to try something.

\butt hurt rant
....a wii...hmm...where have I heard of those before?
Oh yeah! Thats the thing I havent played for almost a year due to no good games comeing out in that peroid of time! The thing I stupidly bought because they made it look like it was the greatest thing of all time by releaseing a ton of good games in the first few months or so but then went to waste! The thing that I can count the number of good games for on one hand!
....wait? You want me to pay even more money for a online service that makes my cellphone look like an Xbox 360? ...haha, Miyamoto made a funny....
/end butt hurt rant

Oh man, what a joke! They better pull off something fucking amazing if they expect anyone short of a total sucker to pay for their services. I know I sure as shit wouldn't pay for the pain in the ass that is Wii online.

Onyx Oblivion:
And pay for an online interface that sucks?

At least my 360 gives me stuff like Party Chat.

Atlest TF2 and all half life mods give me party chat, oh wait i dont pay anything for that.

VitusPrime:
No...subscription will not work with nintendo less they get rid of there friend codes. Full Stop.

LOL what idiot would pay for Nintendo online? I understand for the 360 (though even that is not very justified, since its just m$) but come on, pay to try to get friend codes so you MIGHT be able to play with your friends on ssbb?

ionveau:

Onyx Oblivion:
And pay for an online interface that sucks?

At least my 360 gives me stuff like Party Chat.

Atlest TF2 and all half life mods give me party chat, oh wait i dont pay anything for that.

win^

What is wrong with the industry. The PC enjoyed free online for years and suddenly I have to fucking pay for every little damn thing.

Sure 15$ is not bad if I can play any game older than 3 years for free.

I'd like to say this is a dumb idea, but I seriously doubt that Nintendo is just waving their members around.

Nintendo doesn't have many good online games worth going out of the way for. That, and it seriously gimped itself in terms of online juggernauts. (CoD is bad, and I don't think there are any BF games on there. Ignore all the good console/PC exclusives you don't get if you side with Nintendo.)

Still, there are enough people out there that will end up signing up just because they don't feel like buying a system that isn't terrible. It was a money farm waiting to happen, albeit a completely underhanded one in terms of, once again, leeching off of casual gamers.

Like I need to go online to play Zelda.

AC10:
What is wrong with the industry. The PC enjoyed free online for years and suddenly I have to fucking pay for every little damn thing.

The main problem is the person, you cant blaim the buisness, the buisness is not a person, it has no morals, all the buisness wants is your MONEY, if you give them money they will ask for more its like the rat and the cookie

stupid idea, nintendo are no longer a games console maker, they have survived the rise of the xbox by making its own market (kids and novelty tech heads), no one will pay to play wii sports online, the novelty of the wii wears off after about a week anyway

lostzombies.com:
stupid idea, nintendo are no longer a games console maker, they have survived the rise of the xbox by making its own market (kids and novelty tech heads), no one will pay to play wii sports online, the novelty of the wii wears off after about a week anyway

Sony, a "hardcore console" doesn't have online subscriptions (yet, but those will be optional for additional content/access to betas etc), already offers ten times more than the pitiful online capabilities the Wii has. If Nintendo starts charging, it can only be a good thing for Sony, cementing them more in the "Wii HD" image they're trying to create to get the casual gamers to jump ship.

Hahaha.
Nintendo won't get a subscription dime from me. I've already got a 360 to do my online playing.

ionveau:

AC10:
What is wrong with the industry. The PC enjoyed free online for years and suddenly I have to fucking pay for every little damn thing.

The main problem is the person, you cant blaim the buisness, the buisness is not a person, it has no morals, all the buisness wants is your MONEY, if you give them money they will ask for more its like the rat and the cookie

Well, I refuse to pay for a lot of things. For instance, my 360 will never play games online as I'm not going to pay Microsoft for the "privilege" of using their piece of shit service. I also rarely ever buy DLC as it's largely a waste of money based on what you actually get for the price of it.

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