Final Fantasy VII Remake Pushed Even Further From Possibility

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Final Fantasy VII Remake Pushed Even Further From Possibility

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Square Enix is now saying that a remake of Final Fantasy VII would take a middle-aged man's entire life to complete.

Square Enix's Final Fantasy XIII producer Yoshinori Kitase wants to make it clear that a remake of Final Fantasy VII would take a really, really long time. Remember back when he said it would take fourteen years of development time? Now, he's more than doubled that figure.

Speaking at a roundtable discussion held for the launch of Final Fantasy XIII in Korea, Kitase wasn't surprised at all by the topic of Final Fantasy VII. "We've gotten this question a lot from many countries," he said while laughing. He seems to be a little sick of it.

On the Final Fantasy VII remake this time, Kitase said: "To make FFXIII at this level of quality, it took us 3 to 4 years. If we were to make FFVII in the same style of FFXIII, it would take 10 times as long." Forget fourteen years, a current generation Final Fantasy VII would take forty years to put together! That's older than someone's dad.

Does Square Enix just want to stop the questions about the possibility for a Final Fantasy VII remake, or do these comments make sense? You've got to figure the company can reuse some assets from Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children to help the process along or something. I get that Final Fantasy VII was a monumental RPG, especially due to all the cursing, but a forty-year development time is wacky beans.

Source: Andriasang

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Why does everyone act like FF7 is such a big deal? If they remade it, it would be the same game. I'd much rather have them work on another The World Ends With You than a remake of yet another FF game.

Flying-Emu:
Why does everyone act like FF7 is such a big deal? If they remade it, it would be the same game. I'd much rather have them work on another The World Ends With You than a remake of yet another FF game.

Completely agreed. That or a new franchise, rather than a remake.

Also, why would FF7 take so long to remake? All the set pieces are already there, heck they're using upgraded models of the characters in the Kingdom Hearts series already. Not to mention the models from Advent Children...

I call bullshit.

What? How does that even make sense? They have the script. They have the game design, they have the music, they have all the concept art... honestly, it'd take less than two years tops. What a load of shite.

Yeah, no, there's no way a FFVII remake would take forty years. I think they're just getting tired of hearing that question, in which case maybe they shouldn't have made that PS3 tech demo.

EDIT: Wait, he didn't actually say forty years, he just said, "it would take ten times as long." That would imply forty years, yeah, but that sounds more like an off-hand, hyperbolic, casual comment than anything.

They probably just want to get everyone off of their guard so they can surprise release it sometime next year or something. Normally I'd take something like this at face value, but they keep talking about it for some reason. There comes a point when saying "it's not gonna happen" will suffice instead of going off on a diatribe about lengthy development times and other bullshit. It just seems like hype to me.

I know he just doesn't want to remake it which I agree with. To hell with the awful game that is FFVII. Let's focus on more important things like Agito XIII, Versus XIII and XIV.

I reckon they're saying this to take some heat off the developers for now, then possibly release the bombshell in 5 years that it is in development. I remember when they said FFXIII might not be made, or at least a slim possibility. (At least I think it was 13)

AboveUp:
Also, why would FF7 take so long to remake? All the set pieces are already there, heck they're using upgraded models of the characters in the Kingdom Hearts series already. Not to mention the models from Advent Children...

I call bullshit.

Likewise. There is no way in hell it would take that long. They are exaggerating greatly. The story and flow of events have already been established, and they could rip most of the system from the original FF7. I know there's a mantra of "Estimate how long the development will take and then add 50-100% to that to get the actual time" but that's ridiculous.

This shows just how much SE have fallen from their peak - now they're apparently too incompetent to even re-create their past glory in a reasonable time frame, let alone make something new...

Sony managed to beef up the first 2 God of War games just fine.

Hell they don't need to completely remake the thing, just, well do what they did with God of War 1 and 2. Upgrade the graphics, add some trophies, and bam, you got millions upon millions of copies sold.

I really doubt that 40 year development time. I think he's just sick of people asking him about it.

AboveUp:

Flying-Emu:
Why does everyone act like FF7 is such a big deal? If they remade it, it would be the same game. I'd much rather have them work on another The World Ends With You than a remake of yet another FF game.

I call bullshit.

True, i think their trying to do what bungie did with recon armor, save it for a bad time finacially, or maybe attach it to a less likely to work on its own project, I mean you have a trump card like that and you could save a company.

Now as much as I really don't care whether they did remake it or not...

40 years?

Honestly?
Even taking into account technological advances guaranteed to take place within those 40 years, file size advances console progression... General employee competence with the technology, newer, brighter minds coming in to think up better, easier ways to do complex things in shorter time...

The fact that realistically it'd just be making a game that looks like FFXIII with VII's story (which already exists) tacked onto it.

I mean, they have character models from Advent Children, just dumb them down enough to work on a console, and give them different outfits.

They have allotted Voice actors from Advent Children, so they wouldn't have to go through an audition process for the core cast.

The World map, I'll admit would be a hassle, but seriously, people have been used to fades-to-black or loading screens whenever they enter a town for years now, there are very few games that provide truly open world experiences of
'walk up to a town, it's there you can walk through it, leave roam the world, find another town, repeat what you did in previous town.'

But really, come on, They're making an airship mechanic for Versus...
And that's had just a little bit longer development time than XIII so I'm hopefully not assuming wrong that a world map would be included in that...

('Cos I won't be happy if it's another case of chose location, 'fly' there instantly, load screen to the ground bullshit again...)

But yeah, I'll acknowledge that it'd take a long time to make, most graphically high-end games do now days, but 40 years seems like it's overshooting it for the sake of shutting people up...

Oh come on, that has got to be complete hyperbole, and even if it is they need to stop wasting time and make it already, especially if it's going to take that long (sarcasm).

Completely legitimate arguments on whether or not VII was the crowning jewel of JRPGs or was simply great for it's time aside, remaking that game would practically be a license for Square to print money. After all, a hell of a lot of fans seem to want it.

14 years was hard to believe, 40 just sounds impossible. It sounds like there making things up.

Citrus Insanity:
Yeah, no, there's no way a FFVII remake would take forty years. I think they're just getting tired of hearing that question, in which case maybe they shouldn't have made that PS3 tech demo.

My thoughts exactly. Plus, I'm a firm believer in that it would have just ended up being the same game, only with a prettier look to it.

Flying-Emu:
I'd much rather have them work on another The World Ends With You than a remake of yet another FF game.

This statement makes you THE MOST EPIC PERSON I have seen on the escapist and I agree with it 999% A sequel to The World Ends With You is what we need to see roll out of SE's production line, hell the creator's original idea was that the game would span every continent and take place in major cities like New York, Greece, Egypt, Sydney, and so on, but in the end they decided to stick with the area around them, so I would love to see The World Ends With You Too (a possible assumed title with some real usage on the net)

Why are we talking about this? Why not remake a good game? More importantly, why not make a new good game instead of remaking old ones?

HeySeansOnline:
True, i think their trying to do what bungie did with recon armor, save it for a bad time finacially, or maybe attach it to a less likely to work on its own project, I mean you have a trump card like that and you could save a company.

You've got a very good point there. A trump card could save a company during a bad time quite easily.

On the other hand, if they'd played it at the height of their popularity, they could avoid getting into a bad position quite easily.

A little farfetched this comment is but maybe by making this little commments shows his disinterest in making the damn thing and he wants to just stop the people from asking for this remake over and over and over again.

sounds more like a " stop asking " move to me -.- 40 years, for a game ... who they trying to fool.

>.>
sides, they should make a current gen remake of 6, screw 7 XD

They better get started then.

As a Final Fantasy fan I'm sick of this garbage from Square-Enix. I bet they can do it but are not confident enough about the sales because of the taste of the modern gamer. Plus with Yoichi Wada's love of western games it's probably being pushed aside for more games that would appeal more to the average gamer. Also I think it could be done in a shorter time if they pull all their resourses onto the project, probably 5 years but they wouldn't be able to make any other games. I think the biggest problem they'll have is the fact that they would build it from the ground up instead of reskining Final Fantasy VII, that's what we want! Screw making Final Fantasy XIII with Final Fantasy VII's story, we want the same game with prettier graphics and it would take a shorter time to develop if it's just a reskin job.

Regardless I think if they're not going to make it they wouldn't keep talking about it. Seems as soon as we start to forget the last comment from them they issue a new one. To be honest I'd rather they hurry up with Kingdom Hearts 3 to finally finish that series off. Also I'd like Square-Enix to stop ruinning their games like Front Mission Evolved, if I wanted to play Armored Core I'd buy Armored Core I want Front Mission for tactical RPGs.

I think the whole "remake FF7" issue is ridiculous. Don't get me wrong... I absolutely love the game and I would very much like to see it revamped, I just think it's ridiculous because either the fans won't let the issue drop and yet neither will the developers. They keep giving people hints and teasers and keep bringing it up CONSTANTLY.

And I totally call bullshit on the 14 year development time. With enough money and manpower they could get it done within two years I am willing to bet.

Well yes, if you have only one random guy do all the artwork, programming, vocals and design, yes it'll take 40 years. This is why you use a development *team*

I honestly think a flat-out "STFU" would have been more respectful than this line of shit Square is feeding their customers.

Flying-Emu:
Why does everyone act like FF7 is such a big deal? If they remade it, it would be the same game. I'd much rather have them work on another The World Ends With You than a remake of yet another FF game.

HELL THE FUCK YES.

Seriously, Final Fantasy VII was... decent for it's time. Remaking it brings nothing new to gaming in general.

After everything past 9, this sort of makes sense. They would have to make it pretty AND good. Which they seem incapable of doing after seeing what the ps2 could do and crapping themselves

I think it was more of a "Fuck off, we're not doing it you fanboy pricks!"

So basically what they're saying is "Final Fantasy Seven is such a complex game it would take 4 years, as opposed to our yearly releases of games, showing just how far we have fallen from our former quality and how little we care."

wooty:
I reckon they're saying this to take some heat off the developers for now, then possibly release the bombshell in 5 years that it is in development. I remember when they said FFXIII might not be made, or at least a slim possibility. (At least I think it was 13)

13 shouldn't have been made (given what we got). But yeah this is obviously them just whining to get us to stop asking for it. They have all the set pieces in place and if the "development time" being as long as it would be is due to the games length.. they don't need to make if FF13 quality. Yes, FF13 was stunning, but if it takes them 4 years to make a 30 hour long hallway, cut down on the graphics and make something that's actually compelling to play.

There's an extremely high probability that he meant it as a figure of speech, not a mathematical analysis, considering what you wrote.

Sparrow:
What? How does that even make sense? They have the script. They have the game design, they have the music, they have all the concept art... honestly, it'd take less than two years tops. What a load of shite.

yeah it makes no sense, the tech has caught up to the ps3's capabilities, they have the story/characters/graphics/everything already there, why would it take so long?

if there was a remake, cool, i'd def. get it, but if not, i guess it wont bug me really, im just curious as to why it would honestly take that long? they have EVERYTHING there, and i loved the materia system, so idk what they'd really need to change that would take that long.

they have all of the music

Actually, they don't. To remake FFVII, or any game, sure, you have source material, but you don't have the exact music to reuse; like, take Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen. They didn't use the same exact music from back in the day, that would have been ugly, using 8-bit music on a 16-bit remake. What did they do? Arrange it on modern hardware for the system. Flash back to modern day. FFVII had, well, some ugly-sounding music (to me, even by standards back then). Nowadays, we expect games to have an orchestral score, especially games like Final Fantasy. Subtract Nobuo Uematsu from the modern day possibility of an FFVII remake since he is at Mistwalker Studios now. Not only do we not have the inability to use the original music in its exact form, but we do not have the original composer to work with it. SE would need to get the right to arrange Uematsu's work. If they can't, then bam, we get an original soundtrack in the remake of FFVII.

Back on topic, hyperbole much? You can update level designs, yes, but still, it doesn't seem like it'd take more than, what, four years with current generation technology?

I think the real problem here is that there is that huge divide of generation of gamers. Those that have grown up with games since they were young and are now well adjusted adults that understand the the video game industry is a business. And then there is the FF7 generation where while they are mostly grown up they are so obsessed with their "first" big game(not actually their first but most hyped for the console generation when it was Playstation and N64 as the big two competitors) that they wish for that specific story and characters to grow and don't want characters like Cloud, Aries and Tifa to die but be immortal for all time.

This gigantic divide of gamers are those that know that franchises and stories die and it is best to move on and then there are those that are used to see that specific game getting the spin-off treatment over and over and over again. There to my knowledge has been a total of three spin-off games, the PS2 game with Vincent, the PSP game with Zack and the FFVII movie. So that generation who has been used to being loud because that was the current largest inception of gamers when video games were starting to be accepted as pop-culture and not the "nerd" hobby that it was known for.

The result is the fanbase that is nothing more than grown children used to getting what they want and a company that knows that in order to grow it needs to reach and create new games and new audiences while it wants to preserve that nostalgia and be conservative to treat the game and its reputation as a gem and icon to the video game industry's history.

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