Final Fantasy VII Remake Pushed Even Further From Possibility

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Prophetic Heresy:

ResiEvalJohn:
I'm just gonna say it's a shame to all parties.

FF7 was one of the most important games of my childhood, and when I think of kids being raised today on FFXIII, it makes me puke at how low Squeenix has sunk. Gamers today are just exposed to mindless corridor shooting action games that only require you to press the X button over and over. There's no depth or atmosphere to games like there used to be.

I'm positive that they could've put out a remake INSTEAD of all the shit they've been doing for the past 5 years because:
1) They definitely have Character animation and voice acting down - Look at FFXIII, that was arguably the only good thing about the game.
2) They definitely have the technology to make big world maps - Look at FFXII.

The fact is, Square doesn't have the mojo anymore, or the magic, or whatever you call it. They're admitting right here that they'll never make a game good enough for me to play again.
An FF7 remake would be great not only for fans, but for new generations of gamers who didn't experience it back in the 90's. Gone is the time when JRPG's were actually respected and gaming required more than just "press X not to die."

I can't help but agree completely with what you just said. I'm actually reminded of the other day when I was playing...you know what? I don't even feel like sarcasm.

First off, how many games rely on one single button? None. Stop belittling the work that developers put into their games. If you don't like shooters that's fine but don't put down the people who make good games or the people who enjoy them to stroke your own ego.

Second, stop getting your "witty comments" from Zero Punctuation. Most people on this site have already heard them, laughed, and moved on. Yahtzee is funny and he occasionally stumbles on to an interesting point about gaming, but his points only naturally occur in jokes. When you try to use them as actual arguments you just sound like a pretentious idiot.

Finally, apologize to anyone who might have actually had their opinion changed by reading your post. Inform them that you are entirely wrong you apologize for misleading them, even as poorly as you did.

Excuse me? Who gave you the right to treat people like crap for no reason?

He didn't even mention shooters, so making that connection says more about you than it says about him.

Tom Goldman:

You're got to figure the company can reuse some assets from Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children to help the process along or something.

Proofreading man to the rescue!

(Seriously, I find so many of these in Escapist news stories, I should be getting paid :p)

PS: I approve of your use of the word (word? I'll go with word) Wackybeans.

40 years is utter bullshit. If I didn't have anything else going on, I, by myself, could probably remake FFVII in less than 40 years. This includes the time it would take to actually learn the relevant skills, debug, etc. Square is clearly feeding its fans a line of bullshit to shut them up, but it'll probably end up backfiring, and the fanboys will be clamoring about it for the next 40 years.

FFVII was good for its time, but can't we (that is, Square) move on and develop good, new stories anymore? I don't give a flying shit if it uses the latest sweat-and-dust-rendering graphics engine or whatever it is the graphics whores are drooling about nowadays, just give us an epic tale that makes sense but perhaps doesn't quite explain everything about it (not in a plot-hole kind of way, more of a "Just what the hell WAS the Happy Mask Salesman, anyway?" sort of way), and could we please, please not have it include any angsty, whiny bastards? I actually don't even care if the protagonists are all androgynous teenagers, just make them believable people who do have personal problems, but deal with them in a way that doesn't remind us of the people we used to talk to every now and again at school and think "Man up and get over yourself!".

Sorry for the wall o' text, it's just something I had to say.

danpascooch:

Prophetic Heresy:

ResiEvalJohn:
I'm just gonna say it's a shame to all parties.

FF7 was one of the most important games of my childhood, and when I think of kids being raised today on FFXIII, it makes me puke at how low Squeenix has sunk. Gamers today are just exposed to mindless corridor shooting action games that only require you to press the X button over and over. There's no depth or atmosphere to games like there used to be.

I'm positive that they could've put out a remake INSTEAD of all the shit they've been doing for the past 5 years because:
1) They definitely have Character animation and voice acting down - Look at FFXIII, that was arguably the only good thing about the game.
2) They definitely have the technology to make big world maps - Look at FFXII.

The fact is, Square doesn't have the mojo anymore, or the magic, or whatever you call it. They're admitting right here that they'll never make a game good enough for me to play again.
An FF7 remake would be great not only for fans, but for new generations of gamers who didn't experience it back in the 90's. Gone is the time when JRPG's were actually respected and gaming required more than just "press X not to die."

I can't help but agree completely with what you just said. I'm actually reminded of the other day when I was playing...you know what? I don't even feel like sarcasm.

First off, how many games rely on one single button? None. Stop belittling the work that developers put into their games. If you don't like shooters that's fine but don't put down the people who make good games or the people who enjoy them to stroke your own ego.

Second, stop getting your "witty comments" from Zero Punctuation. Most people on this site have already heard them, laughed, and moved on. Yahtzee is funny and he occasionally stumbles on to an interesting point about gaming, but his points only naturally occur in jokes. When you try to use them as actual arguments you just sound like a pretentious idiot.

Finally, apologize to anyone who might have actually had their opinion changed by reading your post. Inform them that you are entirely wrong you apologize for misleading them, even as poorly as you did.

Excuse me? Who gave you the right to treat people like crap for no reason?

He didn't even mention shooters, so making that connection says more about you than it says about him.

Just highlighting the part where he mentioned shooters. I'm also being more smug than I'd like to have been. I hope next time someone corrects me, they're right.

Im not half as big a fan of FFVII as most Escapists(in the sense that I don't care if it gets a modern update). But Im still calling complete and utter Bullshit when he says it would take that long.

I see two ways of interpreting this:

1. We don't want to do it, so leave us the fuck alone already!

2. We have replaced quality and gameplay with a slightly interactive movie in our recent games and if we were to try to apply that level of visuals to an actual game, we'd be crushed...

Okay, now they're just making crap up. I wouldn't be surprised if they have just been making excuses this whole time, really, but this is just ridiculous. No way it could take 40 years to complete. Half the work is already done for them! No one wants them to touch the plot, dialogue, or game progression, it would seriously only be a matter of visual design (much of which has already been done for them, since they already have the visual style and map layout), voice recording, and re-localization. It wouldn't at all be 40 years of work.

Sparrow:
What? How does that even make sense? They have the script. They have the game design, they have the music, they have all the concept art... honestly, it'd take less than two years tops. What a load of shite.

Yeah, you are saying that because you are working in games industry and released multiple AAA game and also have good knowledge about developing games for different consoles.

Right?

Well, that hopefully means they have been thinking about it...tis a shame it wont get remade...but, I wonder if that figure is really going to stop people asking

It must be frustrating to be a talented developer, releasing tons of games, and still have a shitload of fans that only want you to re-do something you did over a decade ago...

I think what he's trying to say (before the translation errors) that a Final Fantasy VII remake will not be made.

in your lifetime.

If they were going to make a current gen remake of FFVII I'd rather they started at 1.

[Edit]

if you want to play Final Fantasy VII, you have 2 options: original hard copy disk (hard to come by, have to switch disks) OR Playstation Network ($10 and the internet).

i want to play FFIX. I don't have a hard copy, so I'm waiting for PSN.

I think the main reason it would take so long is because the creators of FFXIII need to first learn how to make FF games, and then they would have to make the actual remake.

I personally think Square should get the stick out of their bum, and either do it or not do it, and stop teasing the fans. Remember the teaser they made right before the release of the PS3, the intro sequence of FFVII in PS3 graphics.

PS: I for one doubt it would take that long to remake FFVII. I mean the whole game is there already, so all they need to do is follow the storyboard and add graphics and voice acting.

PSS: I think a remake of FFVII will suck, because they will change to much of the old charm of the game.

Everyone is concerned over Square game remakes, but what about the old Enix franchises? Terranigma anyone?

Anyways, they need to STFU already. Here's a hint, next time someone asks, just say "No, not happening." and move on. These "news" stories are silly and I'm actually one of those people that would welcome a good remake of that game, but at this point it's just silly that they are still talking about it and not answering with a definite "No."

(Also if they are so adamant about not making it then don't get upset when fans take it upon themselves to do it.)

Just my two pence.

Thank god it's been pushed back.

It's such a waste of resources. MAKE NEW GAMES!!!!111one

danpascooch:

ResiEvalJohn:

Prophetic Heresy:

ResiEvalJohn:
I'm just gonna say it's a shame to all parties.

FF7 was one of the most important games of my childhood, and when I think of kids being raised today on FFXIII, it makes me puke at how low Squeenix has sunk. Gamers today are just exposed to mindless corridor shooting action games that only require you to press the X button over and over. There's no depth or atmosphere to games like there used to be.

I'm positive that they could've put out a remake INSTEAD of all the shit they've been doing for the past 5 years because:
1) They definitely have Character animation and voice acting down - Look at FFXIII, that was arguably the only good thing about the game.
2) They definitely have the technology to make big world maps - Look at FFXII.

The fact is, Square doesn't have the mojo anymore, or the magic, or whatever you call it. They're admitting right here that they'll never make a game good enough for me to play again.
An FF7 remake would be great not only for fans, but for new generations of gamers who didn't experience it back in the 90's. Gone is the time when JRPG's were actually respected and gaming required more than just "press X not to die."

I can't help but agree completely with what you just said. I'm actually reminded of the other day when I was playing...you know what? I don't even feel like sarcasm.

First off, how many games rely on one single button? None. Stop belittling the work that developers put into their games. If you don't like shooters that's fine but don't put down the people who make good games or the people who enjoy them to stroke your own ego.

Second, stop getting your "witty comments" from Zero Punctuation. Most people on this site have already heard them, laughed, and moved on. Yahtzee is funny and he occasionally stumbles on to an interesting point about gaming, but his points only naturally occur in jokes. When you try to use them as actual arguments you just sound like a pretentious idiot.

Finally, apologize to anyone who might have actually had their opinion changed by reading your post. Inform them that you are entirely wrong you apologize for misleading them, even as poorly as you did.

Fuck you, it's my opinion and this is me putting my nuts in your mouth
<=3 O

I apologize to nobody, especially you, who the fuck are you? Prosthetic Heresy! Wow, You showed me, gee I'll think harder about that before I make another post next time because what you have to say is so meaningful on the internet without a face.
Dick :P

Listen up, this is important.

That guy was a total jerk, I'm planning on reporting him, but you can NOT reply like this, not because he doesn't deserve it, but because you will get a moderator suspension, and you don't want that, that's what he wants.

Edit the post, report him, and be the bigger man.

Alright, well thank you for the support on reporting him. You're right, I was a little brash, but if it's one thing I hate, people who tell me my opinion is wrong and making me apologize for it. How arrogant! Seriously, does Prophetic Heresy think he is an all-knowing diety or something? He's lucky this conversation was not happening face to face.

on to editing then.

So why not make it a community thing? Let people create the assets and models and they can program the thing, hire actors and polish it up.

Fans have made good remakes in the past. Look at the Oblivion hi-res mod or Half-Life: Black Mesa, which is in the works.

I'm playing FFVII for the first time just now and I constantly think this thing needs a remake! With way more save points.

Tom Goldman:
I get that Final Fantasy VII was a monumental RPG, especially due to all the cursing, but a forty-year development time is wacky beans.

Thank you for adding the term "wacky beans" into my vocabulary. I will proceed to use it extensively.

It wouldn't take 40 years, not a single chance. With maps, scripts, character designs, minigames and other hoo-hah already fully established, all you need to remake it is to give it an graphics upgrade, revamp the soundtrack, add voices and a spiffy gameplay improvement or two. All in all, with a full development team and financial backing (and you know Square-Enix can provide both easily), it'd take two years tops.

I think he's just pissed at having to keep repeating himself. I would be, too.

i would be happy with them doing somthing new

but if they did to a ff7 remake i dont care if its as good as ff13 or not i would be happy with ff10-12 lvl

but yes i think they want this question to die more than anything else i mean ff7 was on 4 cds on a blue ray dvd it could probly fit on 1 so its not like its that big of a game to make cept for the graphic lvl s of course

i loved ff7 i really really really did how ever that game is along time in the past now i play it just for the joy of it

if they remake it or not i will still play my old one i would likely play the new one to

Sgt. Sykes:
So why not make it a community thing? Let people create the assets and models and they can program the thing, hire actors and polish it up.

Fans have made good remakes in the past. Look at the Oblivion hi-res mod or Half-Life: Black Mesa, which is in the works.

I'm playing FFVII for the first time just now and I constantly think this thing needs a remake! With way more save points.

save points are for the weak ;) and the new ofcourse i hardly need them anymore

Whilst I think the figure is unrealistic, the inflections of it are not.

Of course they are sick of FF7; after spin-offs, a movie sequal, and merchandising it till its tits are dry, they must be going "yeah, it was good while it lasted, lets move on." But instead the rabid, semi-deluded fanboys continually drag them back into the subject.

My guess is this message is a thinly veiled "GTFO and stop asking"

To me the game is mediocre, typo-filled, overrated rubbish.

20 years from now:

"Final Fantasy VII Still not getting a remake, says CEO of Square-EA-Activision-Blizzard. 33 years from the launch of the game, and after continuous pestering from fans, producers still decline that they REALLY REALLY want to do it, like right now maybe. Fans of the series still patiently waiting for silly developers to come out of the closet and admit what they held in for so long. As we all know, tragedy struck 2 months ago when lead music designer Tetsuya Nomura threw himself out of his office window after being screamed at days in a row by loving fans for an uber-HD version of One Winged Angel. Let this be a lesson to the developers: holding back your feelings will not work, guys. Please remake that thing before we... er, you kill yourselves over it.

This is news! We're news reporters!"

Dear Square Enix,

Stop pulling everyone's dick, say you don't want to make Final Fantasy 7 again already, and fucking move on.

Love,

Everyone in the entire world.

They should let the poor game live in dignity. It's already had a prequel, sequel, movie, anime movie, mobile phone game and a lot of the characters in other games.
A remake would be interesting, but I'm sick of hearing about it.

Just say "Nah, we don't feel like it." At least that would make sense.

You know, I honestly don't think it would take anywhere near that long to remake FF7 and they're just saying all this stuff to make people stop asking.

They made that up just to hush the fantards, the hypocrites.

I'm willing to swear on my honor that an FF7 remake would take max 3-4 years considering they already have everything they need. Hell they even have that intro demo already.

Give me a final fantasy IX remake anyday. I never got the whole deal about Final Fantasy VII to be honest.
But on topic, I don't understand why it would take so long to develop and make.

I think at this point i don't care anymore, it's not going to happen so we might as well move on.

..40 years? For a remake of a game already constructed? What a load of crock, indeed.

Probably wants to just stop the questions on it, I'm presuming.

I don't see why people are so desperate for a remake of Final Fantasy 7, there are quite a few other games I'd prefer a remake of. Also, I think it would be better if Square Enix came out and said they don't want to make a remake rather than giving all these ludicrous figures...

Sparrow:
What? How does that even make sense? They have the script. They have the game design, they have the music, they have all the concept art... honestly, it'd take less than two years tops. What a load of shite.

yeah, anyone that wants the game even made just wants a next gen graphics version of it. We (yeah I'm included in this) don't want anything changed about it aside from that. The only way we want it like FF13 is graphically, nothing else! 13 sucked!

SE failed horribly for me after Final Fantasy 6. Really, so much time poured into their games and yet they are utter boring ass shait. Final Fantasy 13 that is.

I enjoyed Advent Children though, movie as kick-ass.

I think a lot of the issue comes from the voice acting, they already have (most of) the voice actors cast, so they would need to get them all together, they would have to keep all of the conversation branches that were in the original and provide the same if not more flexibility in where you can go and when, this also includes making sure someone does not say the wrong thing (out of timeline)

I think the time estimation was WAAAY too big but I can still see how the time and effort required my ba prohibitive at this stage.

also I dont think they really want to have to do this so I call shennanigans.

Sparrow:
What? How does that even make sense? They have the script. They have the game design, they have the music, they have all the concept art... honestly, it'd take less than two years tops. What a load of shite.

I completely agree. It makes little to no sense... they could even use the same battle system, tweak it and tweak it a little.

They seem to be obsessed with super-realistic graphics and how long FF13 took to make...

I recently finished FFVII and loved it. Before, I hadn't played many games with that much content in it. I was suprised mostly because it was a 13 year old game and was way cooler than anything else i've played. I also really liked the art, the music and yes, even the spelling mistakes.
It felt like a rare gem i almost missed out on because I was only 5 when it came out. I don't care if anyone else feels 'the art hasn't aged well' or stuff liked that, I thought it was great and that's that.
The additional games are great too - playing out Zack's story and see it all come together. It was cool to see aerith and cloud in cg. I'll just say now that Advent Children bites for me, mostly because the character designs were too generically asiany looking. and well, cloud stopped thinking he was badass.

A remake isn't what I need. They've indulged fans with spinoffs and made a couple of bucks on the side. The story's over, don't add any more. I'm not judging anyone who really wants a remake, but it'll be a lot easier to have my adittude on in.

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