Second Time the Charm for Ghost Rider Movie?

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Second Time the Charm for Ghost Rider Movie?

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Columbia is revving up to bring Ghost Rider back to the silver screen.

Talks are taking place with director team Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor, and actor Nicholas Cage for Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, a sequel to the 2007 movie, which starred Cage as the titular Ghost Rider, a demonic spirit of retribution and vengeance. Neveldine and Taylor have directed both Crank movies and Gamer, as well as writing the screenplay for Jonah Hex.

The first Ghost Rider movie made nearly $230 million worldwide, despite fairly poor reviews. Columbia only had a limited window in which to start work on a sequel before the rights reverted back to Marvel. Spirit of Vengeance's script was written by David Goyer, who also wrote The Dark Knight, and the studio hopes to start shooting by late fall.

Source: Heat Vision Blog

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I'm looking forward to this, I guess.

To be brutally honest, I had no problems with Cage's performance in Ghost Rider. Sure, he might be far from the greatest actor of our day, but for being so bad he's sure been in a lot of high-grossing films.

Hey, since when is Nicholas Cage a bad actor? Sure, he made a few poor choices in his roles, but he's far from a bad actor.

Ever seen Adaptation? Lord Of War? Hell, he did great in Kick Ass too. The Ghost Rider movie was just warped and terribly paced in general, no actor would've saved it.

So we get a director who did a bunch of crappy films, and a good script-writer?
This'll be interesting.

Nick Cage is OK, but he needs the right roles...and I'm not sure Ghost Rider is the right role for Mr. Cage.

coldalarm:
I'm looking forward to this, I guess.

To be brutally honest, I had no problems with Cage's performance in Ghost Rider. Sure, he might be far from the greatest actor of our day, but for being so bad he's sure been in a lot of high-grossing films.

Haven't seen Ghost Rider, but Nicholas Cage is, imho, not a bad actor. He's a little strange perhaps, and does it best as slighty mad characters. Or hopeless ones. He did a fantastic performance in Leaving Las Vegas for example. And he played damn well in the Rock, not to mentioned his possibly best performance to date: Lord of War.

I love Ghost Rider as a character but the movie was kind of forgetable, i loved the reference to MK's Scorpion though.

..Please, no?

Cage is an.. alright actor, including movies such as Lord of War (Which was awesome, btw), and to lows such as The Knowing (Dont even get me started on what was pathetically wrong with that movie).

But Ghost Rider was a horrible movie, I don't care how much money it made. They'd have to do quite alot with the story to ever make me want to go see it again.

Get rid of Cage and replace him with Jensen Ackles. He would make a great Ghost Rider.

I didn't find the first movie all that bad.

Sure, the plot is down-to-Earth retarded, but that's a superhero movie so it's okay.

I want to see ghost rider in he avenger movie. And one more thing, get that guy who played the punisher from the punisher movie to be in ghost rider.

I need to think really hard to remember the first film... so I guess it wasn't too impressive to me.
I should probably watch it again, especially with a sequel coming.

which starred Cage as the titular Ghost Rider

Titular means "in title only"; you probably meant eponymous.

Retodon8:
I need to think really hard to remember the first film... so I guess it wasn't too impressive to me.
I should probably watch it again, especially with a sequel coming.

which starred Cage as the titular Ghost Rider

Titular means "in title only"; you probably meant eponymous.

I learn something new everyday...

OT: The first wasn't all bad. I enjoyed it more than most, though.

New Ghost Rider movie!?!

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*Squeals like a 4 year old*

*Ahem*

Sorry about that. I love Ghost Rider. I have the Extended Cut of the first movie. And the video game (no it is not that bad. Not as good as God of War, which the style reminds me of, but anyway. Picture God of War with motorcycle sections. That's the Ghost Rider game)

I didn't mind the first one.

Peter Fonda as the Devil (or whatever name they gave him) = Awesome.

SteelStallion:
Hey, since when is Nicholas Cage a bad actor? Sure, he made a few poor choices in his roles, but he's far from a bad actor.

Ever seen Adaptation? Lord Of War? Hell, he did great in Kick Ass too. The Ghost Rider movie was just warped and terribly paced in general, no actor would've saved it.

I agree with that, Cage is in my Top 5 quite easily. He's brilliant, he's one of the few actors I've seen that can do goofy funny, dramatic and badass and be convincing about it.

Unfortunately no amount of good acting can save a badly written movie peppered with dated puns and cheesy banter.

That being said, tacky as it was, I quite enjoyed the first one and found myself giving the odd squee or two when he first became Ghost Rider, then when he got the spiky jacket.

<nerd></nerd>

.... yeah ;o)

SteelStallion:
Hey, since when is Nicholas Cage a bad actor? Sure, he made a few poor choices in his roles, but he's far from a bad actor.

Ever seen Adaptation? Lord Of War? Hell, he did great in Kick Ass too. The Ghost Rider movie was just warped and terribly paced in general, no actor would've saved it.

Nick Cage is a fucking horrible actor, Keanu Reeves has more depth and that's not meant as a compliment. He is the #1 reason I will not watch the first Ghost Rider nor many of his other movies.

I enjoyed ghost rider, I enjoy Nick Cage. Guess I'll look forward to this movie as well.

Also, the Devil was an excellently played role imho.

I didn't really enjoy Ghost Rider, but there wasn't nothing really wrong with it. I felt that juts when it got interesting, it was over. Still, Goyer can probably do something awesome with it. Then again, he made "The Unborn," and that was scary for all the wrong reasons.

Well the 1st movie was pretty good. But yes it was lacking...alot :D
On the other hand script by the guy who wrote The Dark Knight...that is hard to ignore. It sounds promising. But the crank directors...they totally screwed up with Crank 2 so im kinda worried there!

Another remake? Well, I huess it cant be helped...first movie was fun, but, thats about all it was.

Its all I will guess this one will be too

The only reason first movie did alright is because it had Cage and Eva Mendes in it. I can't stress how stupid that movie was. Cage did OK with the acting part as always but the script was plain fuckin stupid.

i love ghost rider, i still have a lot of his comics but when i saw the movie i was very disappointed.

Don't make is suck as back as the last movie! Com'on, last Ghost Rider had very disappointing fights. I want better, longer fights this time around.

Goyer had originally written a script for the first Ghost Rider, which was going to be a heavy R-rated film. Cage signed up, though, and wanted the movie to be PG-13 because he thought Ghost Rider (the beer drinking, violent, cursing biker who turns into a demon with a flaming skull for a head) should be for kids, so the script was thrown out in favor of one by that guy who did Daredevil. I can't imagine Cage not dumbing it down again this time around (note: going from R to PG-13 itself wasn't exactly bad, just the thinking behind it of making one of Marvel's more 'mature-themed' characters into a more kid-friendly movie was).

Apart from the R-to-PG13 thing, Cage was just wrong for the part on all counts. The character's grizzled and hardened, not goofy and over-the-top, and he was put in there just to have a big name. You'd need a Kurt Russell for that kind of role, really. Then again, that movie had a laundry list of problems besides miscast actors...

tehroc:

SteelStallion:
Hey, since when is Nicholas Cage a bad actor? Sure, he made a few poor choices in his roles, but he's far from a bad actor.

Ever seen Adaptation? Lord Of War? Hell, he did great in Kick Ass too. The Ghost Rider movie was just warped and terribly paced in general, no actor would've saved it.

Nick Cage is a fucking horrible actor, Keanu Reeves has more depth and that's not meant as a compliment. He is the #1 reason I will not watch the first Ghost Rider nor many of his other movies.

He may do a lot of scenery-chewing and hammy acting these days, but it wasn't that long ago when Nicholas Cage really was a great thespian. Don't judge him based solely on his blockbusters, check out his smaller, more critically-acclaimed flicks like Leaving Las Vegas (which earned him his Oscar), Raising Arizona (directed by the Coen brothers, who also made Fargo, No Country For Old Men, The Big Lebowski...), and the aforementioned Adaptation.

Is this a remake or a direct sequel?
Regardless I enjoy Cage's acting and I thought he was good in Ghost Rider 1.

coldalarm:
To be brutally honest, I had no problems with Cage's performance in Ghost Rider.

I thought he was fine in Ghost Rider. He was easily the second-best actor in the film, after Sam Elliott (in a stellar reprisal of his role in The Big Lebowski). It's not his fault that the rest of the movie was cheesy and laden with bad special effects. Still, compared to Punisher: War Zone it was a masterpiece.

It's kind of sad that they're pushing this movie out simply to keep the rights from reverting back to Marvel. That just screams quality to me. I'd much rather have Marvel making these movies - they're doing a much better job with them than the other studios are.

I... did not enjoy the first one (big surprise!). I really don't like Nicholas Cage, but...
I don't know, MAYBE this one will be better. Stranger things have happened.

Um... Am I allowed to ask why they're doing this? Really what's the point? Did anybody actually like the first "Ghost Rider" movie? Does anybody even remember the first "Ghost Rider" movie? I don't even remember if I saw it or not.

It's a shame, Ghost Rider could be a truly BADASS film. Instead they're doing a sequel of that flaming turd first movie.

IT'S CALLED REBOOT. FORGET IT, AND NICK CAGE, EVER HAPPENED.

The root problem with the first Ghost Rider movie wasn't Cage's performance (it was actually pretty good), but everything else.

The plot was nothing special, the writing was meh, the supporting characters were annoying, the villains were cliched and unintentionally funny, the special effects weren't all that good (except for when Johnny turns into the Ghost Rider for the first time, that was sweet!), and for what very few action scenes that were included in this high budget superhero film about a Harely riding demon with a perpetually burning skull for a face who fights other demons (including the son of Satan) with a selection possessed chains and supernatural powers were actually pretty damn boring.

I won't be surprised if they don't fix these problems with this new movie, but if they do, yay... I guess.

In all honesty, the entire movie sucked except for Cage. He is not a BAD actor at all.

I like the first movie... the first half to two-thirds was pretty good, well acted, decently paced, and had a good feeling to it. Around that two-thirds point, though, it was like everyone went 'Wait, we're making a comic book movie! Quick, everyone act stilted and throw the dumbest plot ideas and dialogue possible out there! Hurry! We have to torpedo this before we make a GOOD movie on accident!'

Cage, I like. Besides, he's one of us, a comic geek absolute. I'm totally green with him having another run as the lead for a new Ghost Rider film. I might not be there opening day, but I could see making the trek to the theatre to catch this one.

It's not so much that Nicholas Cage is a bad actor as it is that he's a bad choice for Ghost Rider. Johnny Blaze is supposed to a hothead. Nicholas Cage seems to be physically incapable of raising his voice.

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