U.S. Government Proposes "Internet Kill Switch"

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As an American Citizen, allow me to exercise my First Amendment rights and tell the government to fuck off.

This is just stupid, fearmongering bullshit. There are things the government is not in control of, and shouldn't be in control of. The internet is one of those things.

They could feasibly cut access to US nodes from external sources but they couldn't physically destroy the Internet. The bulk of the Internet isn't physically located in America.

It begining to look a lot like China, everywhere you go...

I have to admit, I REALLY don't think this is a good idea simply because I can think of several websites that wouldn't let the US government 'monitor' them and it would actually stir up more trouble than its worth. And because, most likely, international websites won't be monitored in this way because other countries won't want America monitoring their websites so it would only affect America. Plus if it only affects US websites - then again there could be problems. Is the UK homepage of Google an American website or English (OK that's probably American) but what about the UK version of Facebook and Twitter etc. Basically, its waaaaay more hassle than its worth.

That's just my opinion though.

I think he must have freaked out when he saw this

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its okay Joe its only fictional

Seriously: How the heck would everyone communicate in a time of crisis if they just killed a major source of communication/information from everyone?

Besides the fact that I'm not sure how it's possible to "turn the internet off"... why would a country willingly give their government the right to turn off the largest free speech platform in the entire world?

I can only imagine the scenario in which a corrupt president turns it off so that we can't communicate, calling some resistance movement "terrorism". I mean, isn't controlling the internet something that corrupt governments would love to have?

Why should the us government have the authority over the internet in the first place? It's not like it's theirs.

If you remember, the president also has the red telephone 'kill switch' on his desk too, and that hasn't been used.

I guess this would be a bright red laptop?

Andy Chalk:

"We cannot afford to wait for a cyber-9/11 before our government realizes the importance of protecting our cyber-resources," said bill co-sponsor Senator Susan Collins.

Neither can we stand idly by and allow this sort of insult to occur. Talk about cock-slapping the free economy. Requiring companies to partake in this? And I'm guessing they'll have to pay some sort of dividend FOR this "information sharing." Sounds like the govvies are trying to rake up some more cash to pour into their stupid fuckin' war.

This is fucking retarded......

Cyber-911? What, are some terrorists gonna crash a plane into the google search engine? killing untold thousands of people?

Mr. Grey:

craddoke:
Oh, Lieberman! What zany right-wing paranoid fear-mongering will you bring us next? And, more importantly, what civil liberties crushing solution will you propose?

Gut miranda rights? Check. Deny accused criminals other basic rights? Check. Pave the way for a government seizure of the internet? Check.

I could have sworn Lieberman was an Independent Democrat. So wouldn't he be left wing? Or is that the problem? I haven't paid much attention with politics, they've increasingly made me jaded and depressed.

He's whatever the lobbyists want him to be...

This is an outrage!
If anyone needs me, I'll be in the anger-dome...
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Let us combine our resources and send that jerk a Guy Fawkes mask!

Not as bad as the proposed Digital Economy Bill.

Boba Frag:

Woodsey:
Oh yeah?

Well the US government can suck my cock.

Damn right!

How amazingly self-centred of them... That would disrupt internet commerce the world over!

I'm all for increased levels of security online... but that's just going way too far.

Agreed...how can they think they can control peoples freedoms...this is such a stupid idea...and, I really hope the bill will. Not. Pass!

Znakemane:
Why should the us government have the authority over the internet in the first place? It's not like it's theirs.

Exactly.

Mr. Grey:
I could have sworn Lieberman was an Independent Democrat. So wouldn't he be left wing? Or is that the problem? I haven't paid much attention with politics, they've increasingly made me jaded and depressed.

He lost the Democratic primary here in Connecticut and started his own party (it has since repudiated him - which has got to hurt since it had his name in its title). He supposedly caucuses with Democrats but campaigned for McCain and can always be relied upon to support knee-jerk conservative responses (both regarding national security and "morals").

Fortunately, his chances of being reelected at this point are about the same as BP being named the this year's most environmentally friendly corporation.

Woodsey:
Oh yeah?

Well the US government can suck my cock.

That's not the US government.
That's Joe Lieberman.
I doubt anyone takes the guy seriously.

craddoke:

Mr. Grey:
I could have sworn Lieberman was an Independent Democrat. So wouldn't he be left wing? Or is that the problem? I haven't paid much attention with politics, they've increasingly made me jaded and depressed.

He lost the Democratic primary here in Connecticut and started his own party (it has since repudiated him - which has got to hurt since it had his name in its title). He supposedly caucuses with Democrats but campaigned for McCain and can always be relied upon to support knee-jerk conservative responses (both regarding national security and "morals").

Fortunately, his chances of being reelected at this point are about the same as BP being named the this year's most environmentally friendly corporation.

molesgallus:

Mr. Grey:

craddoke:
Oh, Lieberman! What zany right-wing paranoid fear-mongering will you bring us next? And, more importantly, what civil liberties crushing solution will you propose?

Gut miranda rights? Check. Deny accused criminals other basic rights? Check. Pave the way for a government seizure of the internet? Check.

I could have sworn Lieberman was an Independent Democrat. So wouldn't he be left wing? Or is that the problem? I haven't paid much attention with politics, they've increasingly made me jaded and depressed.

He's whatever the lobbyists want him to be...

So he's basically That Guy. I don't even want to know how long he's been in office, it's bad enough Michele Bachmann is in there.

Ahahahah, people already want to get the Root DNS servers out of just the US. An idiotic bill like this would just speed up the process.

Silly Lieberman, you couldn't get rid of video games, and there's no way you can shut off the Internet.

For those who don't know, Lieberman is our equivalent of Australia's Michael Atkinson. He's been on an anti-violent video game crusade for as long as I can remember. He's also among the first political figures I remember hating as a teenager for his anti-gaming bile.

JourneyThroughHell:

Woodsey:
Oh yeah?

Well the US government can suck my cock.

That's not the US government.
That's Joe Lieberman.
I doubt anyone takes the guy seriously.

Not a clue who he is (I'm British), but if that's the case then I retract my cock-sucking statement and issue it directly to Joe Lieberman.

Um.... China anyone?

Free exchange of information. Yeah, there are risks, but that just means you buy a better firewall. This is the sort of thing I'd have expected from the Bush administration. I feel betrayed that a Dem brought it up.

Flying-Emu:

Andy Chalk:

"We cannot afford to wait for a cyber-9/11 before our government realizes the importance of protecting our cyber-resources," said bill co-sponsor Senator Susan Collins.

Neither can we stand idly by and allow this sort of insult to occur. Talk about cock-slapping the free economy. Requiring companies to partake in this? And I'm guessing they'll have to pay some sort of dividend FOR this "information sharing." Sounds like the govvies are trying to rake up some more cash to pour into their stupid fuckin' war.

I like how the fines are basically a way of keeping the angle that they still have the right to refuse it. Regardless, this is a joke, and I just can't imagine that they don't understand how many people this would affect!

Woodsey:
Oh yeah?

Well the US government can suck my cock.

This.
I don't even live in the US, they have no right to turn off the internet for every single fucking country in the world.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

This is giving too much power to the government, this is a horrible idea!

As the guy at the top of this page said... It is also just fearmongering idea.

LordCuthberton:
Not as bad as the proposed Digital Economy Bill.

That got passed a week before the election.

Shut off your own internets Americanas, dont mess with Yurop internats.
Or we will seriously cyber-terrorise you with your cyber-computers.

God this legistlation is beyond idiocy

Woodsey:

JourneyThroughHell:

Woodsey:
Oh yeah?

Well the US government can suck my cock.

That's not the US government.
That's Joe Lieberman.
I doubt anyone takes the guy seriously.

Not a clue who he is (I'm British), but if that's the case then I retract my cock-sucking statement and issue it directly to Joe Lieberman.

Since I'm Russian, the only way I know of him is this.
http://pc.ign.com/articles/475/475503p1.html
Yeah.

Yeah, I have to agree with some of the above responses.

In a "time of crisis" I'm not sure if shutting down a global communication network is a wise course of action.

Oh, what's that? It's in case the internet is attacked by cyber-terrorists?

...

Sounds like a good idea for a movie.

Just wait till the cyber-viruses hit and FEMA institutes martial law.

Mr. Lieberman, you wouldn't happen to be good friends with a Walton Simons, would you?

Maybe it's what we really need :P jk

Mr. Grey:

craddoke:

Mr. Grey:
I could have sworn Lieberman was an Independent Democrat. So wouldn't he be left wing? Or is that the problem? I haven't paid much attention with politics, they've increasingly made me jaded and depressed.

He lost the Democratic primary here in Connecticut and started his own party (it has since repudiated him - which has got to hurt since it had his name in its title). He supposedly caucuses with Democrats but campaigned for McCain and can always be relied upon to support knee-jerk conservative responses (both regarding national security and "morals").

Fortunately, his chances of being reelected at this point are about the same as BP being named the this year's most environmentally friendly corporation.

molesgallus:

Mr. Grey:

craddoke:
Oh, Lieberman! What zany right-wing paranoid fear-mongering will you bring us next? And, more importantly, what civil liberties crushing solution will you propose?

Gut miranda rights? Check. Deny accused criminals other basic rights? Check. Pave the way for a government seizure of the internet? Check.

I could have sworn Lieberman was an Independent Democrat. So wouldn't he be left wing? Or is that the problem? I haven't paid much attention with politics, they've increasingly made me jaded and depressed.

He's whatever the lobbyists want him to be...

So he's basically That Guy. I don't even want to know how long he's been in office, it's bad enough Michele Bachmann is in there.

All politicians are That Guy. All successful politicians, that is.

Mooom.. The US is trying to take over the world again... [/whiny voice]

Seriously though, I really don't like the idea of any one person having the power to shut down the entire Internet, much less the US government. Get on the phone to your member of congress, America, and get this bill shut down.

Even if it's just America's Internet, it's still a terrible idea.

ChromeAlchemist:

Flying-Emu:

Andy Chalk:

"We cannot afford to wait for a cyber-9/11 before our government realizes the importance of protecting our cyber-resources," said bill co-sponsor Senator Susan Collins.

Neither can we stand idly by and allow this sort of insult to occur. Talk about cock-slapping the free economy. Requiring companies to partake in this? And I'm guessing they'll have to pay some sort of dividend FOR this "information sharing." Sounds like the govvies are trying to rake up some more cash to pour into their stupid fuckin' war.

I like how the fines are basically a way of keeping the angle that they still have the right to refuse it. Regardless, this is a joke, and I just can't imagine that they don't understand how many people this would affect!

I don't think they could "turn off" the internet in other countries though... I mean, that sounds like something worth going to war over. Figure every modern company uses the internet as a means of communication, and the internet is turned off for... oh, eight hours, a usual work shift.

The monetary loss would be measured in the billions.

noobface:

LordCuthberton:
Not as bad as the proposed Digital Economy Bill.

That got passed a week before the election.

Fuck. Then we are all doomed.

Lizmichi:

Grouchy Imp:

Lizmichi:
Oh my good lord. I can see it now, so we'll lose words in our language and they'll be able to listen to us threw our TVs. If anyone gets what I'm referencing I will be surprised.

1984.

Although this sounds like another knee-jerk reactionary scare story to me.

Yay someone reads. Someone reads a good book too. Yea I hope this is just a farce so I don't have to start making sighs and find some way to DC and protest this. Cause I will.

Nah, it'd bring all international trade and the world's banks to their knees (in the case of the banks, again). I can't imagine any kind of threat that would warrant bringing the entire globe's commerce to a grinding, shuddering (and indefinite) halt.

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