Depending on the way it's transmitted I don't really think the Government would be able to response to it in time for minimal loses. You also have to put in about what the people of each country think of Zombies, I mean, they still are somewhat human beings, some people may not want to shoot them if they know it's possibly their family and such. I mean, if the zombies hit Washington first, it would probable be all over for the US. | |
I think it's an interesting way to analyze various governmental systems. See how they function at the worst of times, and you get a better grasp on how they work during a more normal state of affairs. | |
Actually, I would probably hug the nearest zombie. And then shoot it. Also, did anyone else read 'international counterzombie regime' and read 'slow, minimal response whose primary goal is protection of rich nations with tie-in for reduced national authority'? I did. EDIT: Also, should point out I'm not conservative (in the modern sense), as I realized point one and point two might lead one to make that assumption. I'm very libertarian. Very. | |
I'm really not worried if society fails to contain the zombie apocalypse. "Both barrels for you, you brain-eating bastards!" | |
Mr.Geoson: Actually, I would probably hug the nearest zombie. And then shoot it. Also, did anyone else read 'international counterzombie regime' and read 'slow, minimal response whose primary goal is protection of rich nations with tie-in for reduced national authority'? I did. I didn't read every detail in there, I kinda skimmed through it cause I had to go do something. EDIT: Ugh, I can't fix the quotes, whatever.... | |
Now see, this would all depend on many factors. Number 1 being whether or not it's an isolated instance of zombies, or if it's a simultaneous global infection. If dead people started munching on living people almost instantly around the globe, first of all you have the major issue that nobody would believe this is the actual event occurring. They'd try to attach logical reasoning to it, rather than something that we consider fiction. I think by the time acceptance started to grow of what's really going on, things would be in a state of chaos, or damn near close to it. Then there would have to be a plan formulated, and quickly. Naturally, the best course of action would be to contain everything infected, or if that weren't an option, contain the non-infected. Then there's questions like, if anyone dies of any cause, would they rise from the dead? How would we protect ourselves from this? What do we do to maintain our levels of security, without losing our humanity in the process? Overall, I don't think there would be much cooperation with other nations, unless all of this was executed practically flawlessly and without much incident. Because the number one priority of every nation is to preserve itself. Everyone else comes second, and especially with our military, I think we'd be pretty capable of being self-sufficient. Global cooperation would be nice, but again, many factors could easily change how that goes. Yeah, okay, wow.... I think I'm done now. | |
Well...its nice to know people are thinking of our future with the T-Virus involved... | |
I think that he is thinking of this post rising, when the dead rise, like uppitycracker said, no one would believe it, now, if we all believed it then we could possibly get it under control. doesn't REALLY matter though, because when it comes down to it, I'm taking my shovel, getting the rifle, and heading to canada. | |
I think there's two minor flaws here with his plan. The first is, zombies aren't the most believable enemy, and I think many governments would be skeptical when the outbreak first started. Say it takes a day or so for the infection to take hold, refugees would have enough time to spread it around to the rest of the civilized world. Also, people are people, and we're kind of stupid sometimes, so human error needs to be accounted for. | |
I'm going to put this in a semi scientific perspective. If the dead do rise from the grave, then an other worldly power (god, the devil, ect.) is involved and chances are it won't be a spread infection by air or blood, it'll be magical, so you can slaughter zombies by the ass load without worrying about being bitten as long as you get it sterilized after you're done. If it's an infection, a confirmed infection then they aren't dead, they just appear dead and are a more rage induced kind of "zombie". In that case just stay away from humanity for a few weeks and let the virus (which would have to spread by or water and only roughly 1 in 400,000 of us would be immune to it, so chances are most of us are already gone) rage until it does what any infection does and kills the host, then the only people left are immune (airborne plague means the only people who didn't get sick are either lucky people who live in bubbles or immune to it) and there will be a minimal number of infected left. And anyone who brings Resident Evil into my argument here should be made aware that, it can't happen, there is no blood flowing to pump the virus so only the recent dead would rise, meaning only people who had initial contact with the virus would be zombies, and people who get bitten, and assuming it works like it should only dog zombies would be fast the others would only move in short bursts at best and the whole USA is so flooded with zombie culture that any zombie that actually bites someone would be killed and the person who was bitten would be killed too. I hate zombie things, but the fact of the matter is if it ever happens then someone who isn't me but has seen hundreds of zombie films will see it, and take action, and let all his friends know and they will post it on the zombie forums and then everyone will know in a matter of hours and then there will be a few thousand people armed, ready to fight the undead. | |
I think he just described the most awesome video game of all time and the most terrifying war of all time at the same time. I can safely say I'd buy that game and skip the fuck out of Canada if I got enlisted in that war.
Incredulity is kind of countered by satellite photos, and depending on where exactly the refugees are coming from it might be pretty difficult for them to skip the borders to another country. They infect one country at most before the states sends troops in, because at this point I expect the US to send troops in, and starts clearing the place of infection. And, in this day and age, I kind of see a zombie infection spreading from a place where they've got enough weapons to keep the infection at bay for a while. I don't see England having a zombie problem. | |
Never understood why people were so worried about zombies, all you need is a lava moat and you're set for life. Alternatively, climb up stairs, remove stairs. Also, Max Brooks: The Zombie Guide for Survival is also a good bet. | |
Slow or fast zombies? Slow, yeh i'd agree with him. Fast, we are all doomed. | |
Send in a wave of Oo-rah marine motherfuckers and the country's safe for democracy! | |
ehh Ive got plenty of sunflowers and peashooters, Ill be fine | |
I agree with this. Depending on the location of the outbreak, the outcome would vary drastically. The population density would affect how fast it would spread. And then there is the aspect of the type of zombies you are dealing with. Slow, fast etc. So many variables... | |
I just got one question.... Why the fuck is every one thinking about zombies and so fascinated by them? Their brain dead. OT: Anyways it would be a good reason for the U.S. to invade another country, as he said. | |
Right, last time I checked, the "message" of most zombie movies tends to be something along the lines of "But who are the real monsters?" | |
I'm always interested in Zombie news ^~^! I sure do have a lot of fun playing Zombie games ^~^! I already have a contingency plan in place should zombies begin to walk among us. I hope others have thought of a plan too >~<! It's good to know that at least in theory, a zombie apocalypse can indeed be contained ^~^! | |
Well, i'm afraid that if the zombie apocalypse is saved by rich countries, Africa (and any third world country) would be like resident evil 5. | |
Or maybe, the guy is smart enough to know that a huge segment of the populace is crazy, and that many of these crazy people have biology/biochem degrees, and love zombies, but hate people. you do the math, folks. start planting your gardens now. | |
I would prefer civilization collapsing. | |
if washington got hit first we may end up better off in the long run.... | |
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Professor Investigates the Effect of Zombies on World Politics
Politics professor and blogger Daniel W. Drezner examines what might really happen in a zombie outbreak.
Pretty much every zombie movie has the same message: When the zombies turn up, the human race is in trouble. But according to Drezner the reality would be much less apocalyptic. Writing for the award winning Foreign Policy magazine, Drezner theorizes about the possible responses to a zombie outbreak from realist, liberal and neoconservative governments, and the impact it would have on international politics.
Drezner says that the realist response would be to treat a zombie outbreak like any other plague, and the effect on international politics would be minimal, unless the zombie outbreak is used as an excuse for one state to invade another, such as China invading Taiwan or the US invading Cuba.
The liberal response would emphasize cooperation, Drezner writes, and would likely result in an "international counterzombie regime," which although not perfect, would be able to function well enough so that most countries would have very little to worry about. The neoconservatives would almost certainly take the fight to the zombies in an aggressive, militarized response, but Drezner believes that zombies would be lumped in with other threats into an "Axis of Evil Dead," which would hinder military effectiveness by preventing efforts to form a global coalition.
The solutions are very different, but Drezner believes that the point of commonality is that the ultimately the zombie threat would be contained: "Powerful states would be more likely to withstand an army of flesh-eating ghouls," he says. "In the end, what I am suggesting is that with careful planning and a consistent approach, the zombie threat can be managed."
As he's for why he's writing about zombies on a site more commonly concerned with the war in Iraq and other similarly serious topics, Drezner says that he thinks the proliferation of zombie movies and games could represent "an indirect attempt to get a cognitive grip on what former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld once referred to as the 'unknown unknowns' in international security." Alternatively, he muses, people could have a genuine, although unconscious, fear of the dead rising from the grave.
The essay makes for a very interesting read, and Drezner has a book coming out on the same subject, so if your interest is piqued and you want to read more about it, you'll be able to do so soon.
Source: via Blastr
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