72 Percent of Adults Support California Game Law - UPDATED

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72 Percent of Adults Support California Game Law - UPDATED

Common Sense Media claims that 72 percent of adults are in favor of California's attempt to legislate the sale of violent videogames to minors because the industry isn't doing enough to protect children from inappropriate content.

The videogame industry enjoys a higher rate of age-rating compliance than any other entertainment medium in the world. The ESRB not only provides comprehensive ratings for virtually every videogame on the market but also makes significant efforts to keep parents educated and informed about how the ratings work and why they're important. Game consoles even feature parental locks to help ensure that parents have the final say about what their kids play. But opinions often have little to do with facts, as evidenced by poll numbers released by Common Sense Media indicating that three-quarters of parents believe the game industry isn't doing enough to protect their children.

A survey of 2100 adults from across the U.S. found that 72 percent were in support of California's attempt to ban the sale of "ultraviolent" videogames to minors, the group said. 65 percent of parents claimed they're worried about the impact of such games on their children while 75 percent gave the videogame industry's efforts to protect children a "negative" rating.

"The results of this poll clearly show that not only do the effects of ultraviolent or sexually violent games weigh heavily on the minds of parents, but also that parents feel the videogame industry is not doing enough to protect kids from accessing these games," said Common Sense Media founder and CEO James Steyer.

To support its position that videogames are a festering cesspit of gratuitous violence and misogyny, Common Sense Media has posted a montage of outtakes from videogames like GTA: San Andreas, Postal 2, 50 Cent: Bulletproof and Manhunt, broken down into categories like Violence Against Women, Violence Against Law Enforcement and Racial Stereotypes. The group describes the video as "footage of the type of videogame violence under discussion in this case."

The Supreme Court of the United States is scheduled to hear arguments on California's proposed ban on the sale of violent videogames to minors on November 2. "The Supreme Court's decision is going to have a huge impact on families and kids across the country," Steyer continued. "What we've learned from this poll is that parents want to be the ones who decide which games their kids play, not the videogame industry."

UPDATE: Common Sense Media provided us with a breakdown of the poll's methodology and narrative summary, and thus we pass it on to you. Commissioned by CSM and conducted by Zogby International, the online survey collected the opinions of 2100 adults, with "slight weights" added to region, party, age, race, gender and education "to more accurately reflect the population." The margin of error is +/- 2.2 percentage points and the questions are as follows:

1. Would you support or oppose a law that prohibits minors from purchasing videogames that depict killing, maiming or sexually assaulting an image of a human being? (Support: Adults 72 percent, parents 72 percent; Oppose: Adults 22 percent, parents 24 percent)

2. How concerned are you about the impact of ultra-violent videogames on your child? (Very/Somewhat Concerned: Adults 61 percent, parents 65 percent; Somewhat Unconcerned/Not at all concerned: Adults 28 percent, parents 31 percent)

3. How would you rate the videogame industry when it comes to protecting kids from accessing violent videogames? (Excellent/Good: Adults 12 percent, parents 13 percent; Fair/poor: Adults 76 percent, parents 75 percent)

via: Gamasutra

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This poll clearly shows once again, parents giving more control to the government, because they refuse to be parents. Grow up, it's not the government, or societies job to make sure your kids acquiesce to your rules. That's your job.

I always hate when it comes out about parents not thinking gaming companies don't do enough, I consider it just as much their responsibility to occasionally walk into their sons/daughters room and casually glance at what age rating his games are. If their over his age, then take them away.

Though I'm not a parent, maybe I don't understand the complexities of the issue.

I wonder what the long term effects of this ban would do to the gaming industry if put into force.

EDIT: I decided this seemed quite relevant when we are talking about surveys.

Pardon me, but I thought its a job of fucking parents to protect their children from inappropriate content.

Cor Blimey...

Or how about you tell your kid what you think is appropriate/not appropriate right off the bat before they get their hands on these games instead of letting the government do it for you? American parents should learn how to be parents instead of figureheads.

Well, it is THE PLAYER'S CHOICE TO DO SO IN THESE GAMES. THEY DECIDED WHAT TO DO.
Besides, beating up people is NOT my idea of Ultraviolent. It's brutal, but I was expecting them to show more gory games.

Again, ANY VIOLENCE IN A GAME IS UP TO THE PLAYER TO COMMIT. THEY ARE NOT FORCED TO DO SO. With certain exceptions, such as

. Also, just be a better parent, instead of expecting the government to be the parents.

The video game industry doesn't do enough to keep the games out of the hands of minors? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!?! Seriously, to all parents, it is YOUR JOB to control what your kids do, NOT the governments! And besides, 99.9% of retailers don't sell M rated games to people without ID, so suck it!

/rant.

Thanks for the article Andy. I hope to God, Yahweh, Allah, Odin, Vishnu, and Zeus that we win this case.

just look at the questions they asked in the survey. like "do you think the video game companies are doing enough to protect your kids?" of courser not because its not their job its the parents job. its so easy to fudge surveys all you have to do is ask the right group of people the right questions and claim its an unbiased survey.

Mornelithe:
This poll clearly shows once again, parents giving more control to the government, because they refuse to be parents. Grow up, it's not the government, or societies job to make sure your kids acquiesce to your rules. That's your job.

Indeed.
DAM YOU AMERICA!
ruining games for the rest of us.
No offence to America, Just Americas parents and government

Mornelithe:
This poll clearly shows once again, parents giving more control to the government, because they refuse to be parents. Grow up, it's not the government, or societies job to make sure your kids acquiesce to your rules. That's your job.

This.

If parents actually did some goddamn parenting, we wouldn't be having this argument. Instead, we may be looking at a world where 14-year-olds are going to juvie because they purchased a copy of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.

Common Sense Media claims that 72 percent of adults are in favor of California's attempt to legislate the sale of violent videogames to minors because the industry isn't doing enough to protect children from inappropriate content.

Here's a quick thought. In fact a pair of them.

1) What more could they do?
2) Why the fuck aren't you doing it instead?

Holy shit that's a terrifying finding. Like, how much more is the industry supposed to do?

This is an uphill battle, and it's made far worse by people's ignorance and willingness to believe the worst. The most ridiculous part is that despite all the information the industry puts out, parents, even those concerned about violence still dismiss all games as kids toys.

Just yesterday, while working in a game store, I told a mother buying her 12 year old son a copy of GTA:Vice City Stories that the game was age rated 17+ and her response was:

"Oh, he doesn't turn the violence on, he just plays it for the racing."

wut.

-m

So parents want control of what their children play by making it the government's job? How does that make sense.

I have to laugh at the name "Common Sense Media". Since parents with common sense should be able to decide themselves that these games are too violent for their children, not just lay back and expect the government to do their parenting for them.

"72 percent were in support of California's attempt to ban the sale of "ultraviolent" videogames to minors"
Interpretation: People think minors should not be sold "ultraviolent" videogames.

"65 percent of parents claimed they're worried about the impact of such games on their children"
Interpretation: People care about what games their kids play.

"75 percent gave the videogame industry's efforts to protect children a "negative" rating"
Interpretation: People think the videogame industry is not worried about protecting the children.

"What we've learned from this poll is that parents want to be the ones who decide which games their kids play, not the videogame industry."
Their interpretation: parents are incapable of controlling what games their kids play. Yes, we all suck as parents.

Last I checked, the videogame industry wasn't handing out free games. This survey just shows that the public at large either doesn't know about the ESRB or think it's an ineffective regulator.

72% of Adults in that poll are complete idiots huh? Good to know. I wish I could not care enough to just throw all responsibility to government authority.

Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the norm? I got ID'ed to buy Mafia 2 the other day because the cashier didn't think I was 17 (I'm 21, lol). Isn't it already illegal to sell these games to minors? Isn't that why there's a rating system in the first place?

What will this Californian law change?

I'm sooo glad I don't live in America. :) Ah The UK. We're so great at the whole freedom thing. :)

Andy Chalk:
Steyer continued. "What we've learned from this poll is that parents want to be the ones who decide which games their kids play, not the videogame industry."

Steyer you idiot, you just solved your own problem, let the parents step up and take control for crying out loud, the government is not a baby sitting service, neither are video games. If parents don't want their kids playing something, they should have the balls to say no when their snotty little brats kick and scream. It's their own fault the kids are like that in the first place. FFS don't have kids if you don't want to raise them.

/rant...

Don't want your kids playing violent games? DON'T BUY THEM THE GAMES!

Its that easy. Don't know what games are violent? As the guy who's processing your order. If your at a gamestop, chances are they're a gamer, and they'll know.

Its that easy. Seriously, YOU have to buy the games for the kids, no store will sell violent games to them.

EDIT: Wow, the update doesn't exactly make me feel any better. Then again thats to be expected.

Parents, its not the industries job of stopping kids from playing violent games. Its your job. Despite this we do all we can, yet you still just seem to wave it off. If your kid gets a violent game, its your fault. Plain and simple.

Jeez what the fuck is wrong with those adults in Cali, if they don't want thier kids playing violent games then they shouldn't buy them for the insistent little brats

While it may seem like common sense that parents would be the ones to decide to what their kids play, a 13 year old will figure out a way to play "KillingAndMurder 3". Kids are resourceful bastards, I know this because I used to be one.

Macgyvercas:

Thanks for the article Andy. I hope to God, Yahweh, Allah, Odin, Vishnu, and Zeus that we win this case.

You forgot about the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pray there aren't any consequences.

Can't we just kill all children in the entire world and make abortions mandatory? This way they wont be traumatized.

How about they take responsibility for what their kids play? People moan about state interference and big government in the US then they ask the government to control their kids for them. Its crap.

This is a sad day indeed... "Common Sense Media"... yeah... right... that's not common sense at all. Parents need to start being parents and not full time nannies. The other day I saw a 30 something "business man" buying Red Dead Redeption (PS3) to his kid while still glued to his cell phone yelling at some poor soul about something. How I despise these people...

Andy Chalk:
"What we've learned from this poll is that parents want to be the ones who decide which games their kids play, not the videogame industry."

...what?

Is he telling me that the game industry is forcing kids to play violent video games? Because my sister forbid my nephew to play a copy of God of War 2 he got from a friend because she thought it was too violent for a 9 year old, and I swear I don't remember any industry suits kicking our door in.

The Great JT:

Mornelithe:
This poll clearly shows once again, parents giving more control to the government, because they refuse to be parents. Grow up, it's not the government, or societies job to make sure your kids acquiesce to your rules. That's your job.

This.

If parents actually did some goddamn parenting, we wouldn't be having this argument. Instead, we may be looking at a world where 14-year-olds are going to juvie because they purchased a copy of Halo or Grand Theft Auto.

In my experience 14 year olds are dick heads anyway so that's no huge loss. Will this law only govern the sale? Like if I buy it and a younger cousin plays it have I broken a law? (Not that I care much all the way over here in Ireland.)

Javex:
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the norm? I got ID'ed to buy Mafia 2 the other day because the cashier didn't think I was 17 (I'm 21, lol). Isn't it already illegal to sell these games to minors? Isn't that why there's a rating system in the first place?

What will this Californian law change?

Its not illegal, but its enforced because the industry doesn't want kids getting violent content. This law is a pointless redundancy, and will do nothing since its the parents who are buying the games for the kids.

Javex:
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the norm? I got ID'ed to buy Mafia 2 the other day because the cashier didn't think I was 17 (I'm 21, lol). Isn't it already illegal to sell these games to minors? Isn't that why there's a rating system in the first place?

What will this Californian law change?

It is not illegal in the US. The industry self-imposes and self-enforces age ratings, but there is not currently any legal requirement for them to do so. If this law survives the supreme court, games will be considered a controlled substance, like cigarettes or alcohol, and not art or media, like film or literature.

This law is a big fucking deal.

-m

...

Yea, I do love a good old fashioned misleading poll designed to support a law that would make it illegal to sell pretty much any video game, but jesus christ? He does realize hes basically asking people if they support the sale of handguns to minors for the purpose of murdering senior citizens just like your grandma!, right?

The fact this is in the supreme court at all is embarrassing enough. Does this guy really have to prove he thinks you and the supreme court are utterly stupid?

Javex:
Pardon me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the norm? I got ID'ed to buy Mafia 2 the other day because the cashier didn't think I was 17 (I'm 21, lol). Isn't it already illegal to sell these games to minors? Isn't that why there's a rating system in the first place?

What will this Californian law change?

Some retailers have carding policies, but that is not the same thing as this very openly worded law, built around a test that, for all intents and purposes, says "if it offends you, it is illegal!"

It isn't the industry's job to keep the kids from buying games, it's the parents. If you can't keep a hold on your kid's wallet, you're doing it wrong. Grow up, take your responsibility, and learn to take care of your child.

Though I admit, in Sweden, it works fine. If I want to buy an 18+ rated game, the kind folks at GAME ask me to call my dad, or they recognize me by the amount of times I go there.

Andy Chalk:
Steyer continued. "What we've learned from this poll is that parents want to be the ones who decide which games their kids play, not the videogame industry."

I'm pretty sure this 'evidence' shows the opposite, parents don't want to take an active interest in what their children are doing but when they do something wrong it's everyone else's fault.
If you don't want your kid playing GTA than don't buy it for him/her.

Wow, those "Common Sense" players sure are sick, sick bastards.

I mean, you don't -have- to beat up prostitutes or pee on people in those games. I guess they're enjoying it.

News like this doesn't surprise me anymore, but damn is it ever depressing being continually reminded how astronomically stupid people are.

News flash to parents! Don't want your children playing "ultra-violent video games"? Don't buy them!

Seriously, this isn't hard.

The problem with the montage is not the games' ultraviolence, but the player being a dick. Not very impressive.

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