Buying From Blizzard is Quickest Way to Play Cataclysm

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Buying From Blizzard is Quickest Way to Play Cataclysm

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Blizzard will soon be offering pre-orders for World of Warcraft: Cataclysm on the Blizzard store, which will enable fans to play exactly at midnight.

At BlizzCon 2010 this weekend, Blizzard announced that it'll be offering World of Warcraft: Cataclysm digital pre-orders directly from the Blizzard Store. This is apparently a first for the series at an expansion's release and will theoretically allow players to get started from second one.

Blizzard's Mike Morhaime revealed at the convention's opening ceremony that a pre-order listing for Cataclysm will soon pop-up on the Blizzard Store. Blizzard will allow its direct customers to download and install the expansion before its release date. When the time hits one second past 12:00am on December 7, World of Warcraft players can jump right into Cataclysm's newly destroyed lands.

Installing and/or patching an MMO can sometimes take a good amount of time, so even those waiting outside of a retail store to get their Cataclysm copies at midnight won't be able to play as quickly as Blizzard Store customers. Plus, you don't have to leave your house. I don't need to tell anyone how helpful that can be.

It's not yet clear if Cataclysm's digital pre-orders will go live at midnight in each time zone they're purchased, or only at 12am PDT. For World of Warcraft players on the east coast that want to begin their paths to Deathwing as quickly as possible, those few hours could make a huge difference. Specific details should come out when Cataclysm goes up on the Blizzard Store in the near future.

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I don't play WoW, but I have to say that is pretty cool.

I think this is a stupid mistake. They should start up the servers at noon on the day or some reasonable time. Not 3am. Some of us wanted to play for an hour or two that night before getting some sleep and work the next day.

And by "play" we mean "struggle through crushing amounts of lag and some bugs that slipped through the development process". Day 1 on Burning Crusade was not a lot of fun, which is why I gave Wrath of the Lich King a couple days to settle things down before I hopped in. Will it run better this time? Maybe... maybe not. I don't think I want to stay awake that late to find out.

Still, though I'm not a hardcore "I have to have the hard copy" purist (my Steam games list will attest to that), this is one release I'd rather have the box for. I did take off a couple days of work to give it a go, too.

Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

For simplicity's sake this is probably how I'll be getting this game. I could care less about playing at minute one, but I'd like it to be patched and available the next morning.

Sounds good apart from crippling lag of everyone playing at the same time.

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Is it new to you that WoW expansions cost money?

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Isnt EvE Online a glorifide chat room with a chance of losing items with a REAL money value?

OT: Sweet. I hate waiting for freaking FedEx on lanuch day.

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

What the hell does EVE online have to do with World of Warcraft? If you are suggesting that Cataclysm should be free then well-thats stupid.Most expansions for most games are not free. WOW is one of the biggest games in the world and Cataclysm is a huge expansion costing Blizzard millions to produce and market. EVE online is quite literally nothing by comparison. Why would they not charge for it? Plus, players without Cataclysm will still benefit from the overhauled game mechanics and remade world/new low level questing content.

I have to laugh how people who spend thousands of hours playing a game worry over the seconds they miss out on by how they order the game.

I've been there, done that. Not interested.

Blizzard, people need lives.

preventing players from playing the game for several hours wont harm sales but at least then people can get some Vitamin D

Woodsey:

Numachuka:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Is it new to you that WoW expansions cost money?

Evidently.

Daemascus:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Isnt EvE Online a glorifide chat room with a chance of losing items with a REAL money value?

Err... No.

Mandal0re:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

What the hell does EVE online have to do with World of Warcraft? If you are suggesting that Cataclysm should be free then well-thats stupid.Most expansions for most games are not free. WOW is one of the biggest games in the world and Cataclysm is a huge expansion costing Blizzard millions to produce and market. EVE online is quite literally nothing by comparison. Why would they not charge for it? Plus, players without Cataclysm will still benefit from the overhauled game mechanics and remade world/new low level questing content.

I was assuming that since the update makes massive changes to the game world that it'd probably be required; not to mention that the cost is probably easily covered in subscription fees.

Scrub the sand out of your vagina.

If you are going to make retarded posts then you have to expect some retaliation. The point you made in response to me is completely valid and rational. However, it is not what you said in your initial post. What you said in your initial post was that EVE onlines expansions are free, a point with zero relevance to this topic.

OT: I assumed it would be available at midnight but being able to actually download it before that and play right away is pretty awesome. Not that i will be playing WOW in the small hours of the morning on release day but still...

Mandal0re:

Woodsey:

Numachuka:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Is it new to you that WoW expansions cost money?

Evidently.

Daemascus:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Isnt EvE Online a glorifide chat room with a chance of losing items with a REAL money value?

Err... No.

Mandal0re:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

What the hell does EVE online have to do with World of Warcraft? If you are suggesting that Cataclysm should be free then well-thats stupid.Most expansions for most games are not free. WOW is one of the biggest games in the world and Cataclysm is a huge expansion costing Blizzard millions to produce and market. EVE online is quite literally nothing by comparison. Why would they not charge for it? Plus, players without Cataclysm will still benefit from the overhauled game mechanics and remade world/new low level questing content.

I was assuming that since the update makes massive changes to the game world that it'd probably be required; not to mention that the cost is probably easily covered in subscription fees.

Scrub the sand out of your vagina.

If you are going to make retarded posts then you have to expect some retaliation. The point you made in response to me is completely valid and rational. However, it is not what you said in your initial post. What you said in your initial post was that EVE onlines expansions are free, a point with zero relevance to this topic.

OT: I assumed it would be available at midnight but being able to actually download it before that and play right away is pretty awesome. Not that i will be playing WOW in the small hours of the morning on release day but still...

There's plenty of relevance.

EVE is a smaller MMO yet none of it's (fairly regular) expansions are charged for - so I questioned why it's paid for ("Pay?").

Blizzard are owned by Activision though so I guess it's not too hard to find an answer.

Where was this when I actually played the damn game?

Woodsey:

Mandal0re:

Woodsey:

Numachuka:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Is it new to you that WoW expansions cost money?

Evidently.

Daemascus:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Isnt EvE Online a glorifide chat room with a chance of losing items with a REAL money value?

Err... No.

Mandal0re:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

What the hell does EVE online have to do with World of Warcraft? If you are suggesting that Cataclysm should be free then well-thats stupid.Most expansions for most games are not free. WOW is one of the biggest games in the world and Cataclysm is a huge expansion costing Blizzard millions to produce and market. EVE online is quite literally nothing by comparison. Why would they not charge for it? Plus, players without Cataclysm will still benefit from the overhauled game mechanics and remade world/new low level questing content.

I was assuming that since the update makes massive changes to the game world that it'd probably be required; not to mention that the cost is probably easily covered in subscription fees.

Scrub the sand out of your vagina.

If you are going to make retarded posts then you have to expect some retaliation. The point you made in response to me is completely valid and rational. However, it is not what you said in your initial post. What you said in your initial post was that EVE onlines expansions are free, a point with zero relevance to this topic.

OT: I assumed it would be available at midnight but being able to actually download it before that and play right away is pretty awesome. Not that i will be playing WOW in the small hours of the morning on release day but still...

There's plenty of relevance.

EVE is a smaller MMO yet none of it's (fairly regular) expansions are charged for - so I questioned why it's paid for ("Pay?").

Blizzard are owned by Activision though so I guess it's not too hard to find an answer.

Or maybe they're charged for because they handle 12 million people and not less than a million? Also, these expansions are no doubt larger than eve's.

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Yes they are, but each game has it's own model (and I pay to play for both of these I might add).

WoW expansions cost money true, but are often fairly massive additions to the game, and they feel comfortable charging for this content.

EVE expansions can be fairly massive too (e.g. Trinity with the new engine and all the new models/textures or the wormhole systems and their content from Apocrypha), but some are considerably smaller, fairly light on new content, but heavy on improvements on older stuff (Quantum Rise for instance). CCP have always committed to keeping the expansions free, and they do.

But EVE also gets these smaller expansions far more frequently (as in twice a year), rather than once every 2 years or so that WoW releases a new expansion.

Jiraiya72:

Woodsey:

Mandal0re:

Woodsey:

Numachuka:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Is it new to you that WoW expansions cost money?

Evidently.

Daemascus:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Isnt EvE Online a glorifide chat room with a chance of losing items with a REAL money value?

Err... No.

Mandal0re:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

What the hell does EVE online have to do with World of Warcraft? If you are suggesting that Cataclysm should be free then well-thats stupid.Most expansions for most games are not free. WOW is one of the biggest games in the world and Cataclysm is a huge expansion costing Blizzard millions to produce and market. EVE online is quite literally nothing by comparison. Why would they not charge for it? Plus, players without Cataclysm will still benefit from the overhauled game mechanics and remade world/new low level questing content.

I was assuming that since the update makes massive changes to the game world that it'd probably be required; not to mention that the cost is probably easily covered in subscription fees.

Scrub the sand out of your vagina.

If you are going to make retarded posts then you have to expect some retaliation. The point you made in response to me is completely valid and rational. However, it is not what you said in your initial post. What you said in your initial post was that EVE onlines expansions are free, a point with zero relevance to this topic.

OT: I assumed it would be available at midnight but being able to actually download it before that and play right away is pretty awesome. Not that i will be playing WOW in the small hours of the morning on release day but still...

There's plenty of relevance.

EVE is a smaller MMO yet none of it's (fairly regular) expansions are charged for - so I questioned why it's paid for ("Pay?").

Blizzard are owned by Activision though so I guess it's not too hard to find an answer.

Or maybe they're charged for because they handle 12 million people and not less than a million? Also, these expansions are no doubt larger than eve's.

Yes, but as far as I'm aware they're less regular, and since they're earning roughly 12x as much it makes more sense - from the customer's point of view, obviously a company would consider it best to be able to charge for everything - to not charge for it.

Woodsey:

I was assuming that since the update makes massive changes to the game world that it'd probably be required; not to mention that the cost is probably easily covered in subscription fees.

Scrub the sand out of your vagina.

To clarify - the major changes that Cataclysm makes to the world/game systems will happen for everyone as part of Patch 4.0 (which is free), just like the WotLK/BC changes to the world/systems happened for everyone as part of Patch 3.0/2.0, respectively.

If you don't buy the expansion, that just means you don't get access to expansion-only content. For BC, that meant no Belves/Draenei and no content above level 60, for WotLK that meant no Death Knights and no content above level 70, and for Cata this means no Goblins/Worgen and no content above level 80.

So you're correct in that the changes happen for everyone for free. But the expansion content is something you have to pay for.

As I understand EVE, their expansions are more like major patches.

Azhrarn-101:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Yes they are, but each game has it's own model.

WoW expansions cost money true, but are often fairly massive additions to the game, and they feel comfortable charging for this content.

EVE expansions can be fairly massive too (e.g. Trinity with the new engine and all the new models/textures or the wormhole systems and their content from Apocrypha), but some are considerably smaller, fairly light on new content, but heavy on improvements on older stuff (Quantum Rise for instance). CCP have always committed to keeping the expansions free, and they do.

But EVE also gets these smaller expansions far more frequently (as in twice a year), rather than once every 2 years or so that WoW releases a new expansion.

John Funk:

Woodsey:

I was assuming that since the update makes massive changes to the game world that it'd probably be required; not to mention that the cost is probably easily covered in subscription fees.

Scrub the sand out of your vagina.

To clarify - the major changes that Cataclysm makes to the world/game systems will happen for everyone as part of Patch 4.0 (which is free), just like the WotLK/BC changes to the world/systems happened for everyone as part of Patch 3.0/2.0, respectively.

If you don't buy the expansion, that just means you don't get access to expansion-only content. For BC, that meant no Belves/Draenei and no content above level 60, for WotLK that meant no Death Knights and no content above level 70, and for Cata this means no Goblins/Worgen and no content above level 80.

So you're correct in that the changes happen for everyone for free. But the expansion content is something you have to pay for.

As I understand EVE, their expansions are more like major patches.

I'd just like to thank you two for not replying to me like I'm some sort of moron, and for having the reading ability to understand the relevance of my point.

I'm looking at this from an outsider's point of view (although I've dabbled a little in EVE).

Woodsey:

Mandal0re:

Woodsey:

Numachuka:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Is it new to you that WoW expansions cost money?

Evidently.

Daemascus:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

Isnt EvE Online a glorifide chat room with a chance of losing items with a REAL money value?

Err... No.

Mandal0re:

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

What the hell does EVE online have to do with World of Warcraft? If you are suggesting that Cataclysm should be free then well-thats stupid.Most expansions for most games are not free. WOW is one of the biggest games in the world and Cataclysm is a huge expansion costing Blizzard millions to produce and market. EVE online is quite literally nothing by comparison. Why would they not charge for it? Plus, players without Cataclysm will still benefit from the overhauled game mechanics and remade world/new low level questing content.

I was assuming that since the update makes massive changes to the game world that it'd probably be required; not to mention that the cost is probably easily covered in subscription fees.

Scrub the sand out of your vagina.

If you are going to make retarded posts then you have to expect some retaliation. The point you made in response to me is completely valid and rational. However, it is not what you said in your initial post. What you said in your initial post was that EVE onlines expansions are free, a point with zero relevance to this topic.

OT: I assumed it would be available at midnight but being able to actually download it before that and play right away is pretty awesome. Not that i will be playing WOW in the small hours of the morning on release day but still...

There's plenty of relevance.

EVE is a smaller MMO yet none of it's (fairly regular) expansions are charged for - so I questioned why it's paid for ("Pay?").

Blizzard are owned by Activision though so I guess it's not too hard to find an answer.

You answered your own question there, EVE is relatively small and has regular expansions (thus i presume containing far less content) so charging customers for them might put people off. No doubt if the EVE team though they could get away with charging for expansions without damaging their customer base they would.

Oh and i suppose being owned by Activision would explain it those greedy money grabbing bastards. No. Blizzard is a company. Activision is Blizzards parent company. Companies want to make money. I dont actually know who developed and who published EVE online but those guys want to make money too. WOW has a player base of 12million and Cataclysm is a huge project and no doubt the result of a massive dedication of Blizzards resources. Why would they not charge for it?

Also, if that is the point you were trying to make originally maybe you should have unpacked it a little rather than making one confusing statement.

It's a smart move, cut out the retailers and suddenly you make 100% of the profits, instead of having to give a cut to the stores.

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

yup shame you get what you pay for
OT: i like this idea but i wont be doing it myself i just prefer haveing a hard copy.

This is a moot point.

Expansions are virtually unplayable for the first few weeks. So you might as well wait.

Good for the people that want the "World First" achievements. But I'll be getting it in store. I love the manuals that come with Blizzard games. And screw that on PDF format. I made the mistake of getting the collector's edition of Mafia II on steam... Paying extra for PDF files yaaaay ...

Joke's on the customers: There's no way the authentication servers are going to be able to handle the load of millions of people logging on at the same time. Unless they've seriously changed them in the last 5 years.

Woodsey:

I'd just like to thank you two for not replying to me like I'm some sort of moron, and for having the reading ability to understand the relevance of my point.

I'm looking at this from an outsider's point of view (although I've dabbled a little in EVE).

No problem, it was a relevant comment, and I was glad to provide some insight.

As I later appended to my post, I play both WoW and EVE and can somewhat understand the reasoning behind both their methods. It's also the case that both these MMOs are rather different from each other, which leads to differences in how the content is presented.

WoW as a whole is fairly linear, you progress through the levels as you see fit and where you see fit, but for each level range there is a limited number of locations that is appropriate for you to level up in.
This linear progression is mirrored in their expansions, in that they extend the range of your experience (more levels and associated content), but rarely change the breadth of your experience (new ways to level for instance aren't added, new classes are, but the basic mechanics stay the same).

EVE is a massive sandbox, there's very little PvE content (although the wormhole sleeper NPCs added a lot) as such, most of the stories, in-game politics and economy is generated by its players.
As a result its expansions tend to change the breadth of your experience (new ways of earning a living or a name for yourself in EVE for instance, like the fairly recent PI, wormhole and factional warfare content, along with the standard stuff (gear, ships, etc.)), but the length of the experience doesn't really vary that much in EVE, there will be always skills to train and new things to learn. Their path is up to the players themselves after all.
The power play between massive groups of players is what forms EVEs endgame, and there is no fixed route to reaching that.

CCP tends to provide frameworks for player interaction, where Blizzard adds more content to defeat.

Notthatbright:
Joke's on the customers: There's no way the authentication servers are going to be able to handle the load of millions of people logging on at the same time. Unless they've seriously changed them in the last 5 years.

Judging from how the Lich King launch was handled, I'd say they're pretty well prepared these days. During the launch period they tend to heavily reinforce the authentication servers so that they can handle far heavier loads than normal. This state only needs to be maintained for a few days after launch until the number of registrations per hour drops off and the conventional set up can take the strain again.

If I recall correctly the European authentication servers never failed during the launch of the Lich King, and lag was fairly low unless you were in a player hotspot (The Deathknight starting area and the Borean Tundra on my server for instance), but the Howling Fjord was fairly quiet and mostly lag free.

Baldr:
I think this is a stupid mistake. They should start up the servers at noon on the day or some reasonable time. Not 3am. Some of us wanted to play for an hour or two that night before getting some sleep and work the next day.

Well all game launch is alike that. Yea, I don't understand why it must midnight.

Woodsey:
Pay?

Aren't all of EVE Online's expansions free?

I think those are called patches in WoW. :)

Unless you're me and work in a game store. But regrettably will have to spend all of dec 7th handing them out to people without crying.

SomethingAmazing:
This is a moot point.

Expansions are virtually unplayable for the first few weeks. So you might as well wait.

They've already been fixing the bugs to the WoW Cata update. Since they redid everything (including a very nice graphic update), they have had and have been fixing the problems to the game.

VanityGirl:

SomethingAmazing:
This is a moot point.

Expansions are virtually unplayable for the first few weeks. So you might as well wait.

They've already been fixing the bugs to the WoW Cata update. Since they redid everything (including a very nice graphic update), they have had and have been fixing the problems to the game.

It's not just bugs, it's also server loads and balance issues that rise as a result of the release of an expansion.

This happened for every major release of WoW.

I really want to order the digital copy, but my big hang-up is the "activation" time for me. I'm on the East Coast, so if I can't play until 3AM my time (midnight PST), then I'm definitely going to go to Wal-Mart and purchase it instead. I'm really hoping it unlocks at midnight for every time zone, depending on where your Battle.net account is setup.

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