Hip Hop Back-Up Sues for $250 Million Over GTA: San Andreas

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Scrythe:
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IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE HIM

What is this guy getting in on the "Washed up nobody sues big-time game company" bandwagon?

Doesn't that photo make Shagg look much more like some of the purple gang members you spend so much time shooting?

Irridium:

CoverYourHead:
Hey, y'know, I used to ride around my neighborhood with bikes! I think Rockstar owes me money too!

Holy shit... me too!

We'll sue them together!
Then I'll sue you, because you did what I did and didn't give me money.

I'll sue you all because I just thought about what you did and copyrighted it so its mine,

Snotnaroks Question of the day:

With constant lawsuit news like this why would anyone anywhere want to become a game developer? You'd probably get sued for using a mouse that your voice actor used. He'll insist that you used a tool that he owned to become successful and you didn't tell him you used it.

"his gang used to ride around on bicycles"

Congratulations. If youve ever been to michigan, you sum'd up 70% of the population between 16 and 20. Every black kind in my area owns a bike.

Infact, that pretty much Sums up my time in high school. Im black, and my gang used to roll around of bikes. I want my $250 million dollars.

I demand payment for GTA 4!...Im white, Serbian, and did hit a guy with a taxi once....

xXDeMoNiCXx:
I'm not racist but a lot of black guys seem to do whatever it takes to seem gangster and this seems like the most elaborate way someone has ever attempted to do that. (Besides the money of course.)

No, no. What you are doing is called "Profiling" not racism. Maybe even racial profiling, but definitely NOT racism.

I didn't know he invented acting like a typical black dude.

Someone must have run out of weed and the money to buy it. If not then he clearly has been living like some kind of recluse from society. You'd think he'd have seen this sooner.

You guys know what's going to happen? Months from now a court is going to hold a pre-trial hearing, the judge is going to find no logical basis for this to go through and throw out the case. We are going to hear nothing of it ever again but in the meantime hear about 20 other people who filed a lawsuit that people are going to use as a basis to say that all lawsuits are evil and never realize that those too are never actually going to go to trial. Either that, or he is going to present some legitimate evidence at his trial and we still aren't going to hear about it. You know what, I just got a brilliant idea. Why don't we have these highly trained professionals whose job it is to hear the arguments of a lawsuit and decide on the merits. If there is grounds for a legitimate argument then he sends the case on for a full jury trial and if there isn't then he dismisses the case. Or we could have a group of people whose whole job is based around finding less than 1% of all cases that are crazy and use that to present a skewed representation of the American legal system.
Also, while I am generally a fan of punitive damages, this guy is seriously asking for way too much money for just a side character unless he has some strong evidence. I recognize the number they put on these lawsuits when they file them are entirely arbitrary, but still, if he has any actual evidence to back this claim up, he is going to regret that number when Rockstar's lawyers harp on it and call into question his character.

j0frenzy:
You guys know what's going to happen? Months from now a court is going to hold a pre-trial hearing, the judge is going to find no logical basis for this to go through and throw out the case. We are going to hear nothing of it ever again but in the meantime hear about 20 other people who filed a lawsuit that people are going to use as a basis to say that all lawsuits are evil and never realize that those too are never actually going to go to trial. Either that, or he is going to present some legitimate evidence at his trial and we still aren't going to hear about it. You know what, I just got a brilliant idea. Why don't we have these highly trained professionals whose job it is to hear the arguments of a lawsuit and decide on the merits. If there is grounds for a legitimate argument then he sends the case on for a full jury trial and if there isn't then he dismisses the case. Or we could have a group of people whose whole job is based around finding less than 1% of all cases that are crazy and use that to present a skewed representation of the American legal system.

That's crazy talk. Why would anyone suffer through that kind of punishment willingly? :p

j0frenzy:
Also, while I am generally a fan of punitive damages, this guy is seriously asking for way too much money for just a side character unless he has some strong evidence. I recognize the number they put on these lawsuits when they file them are entirely arbitrary, but still, if he has any actual evidence to back this claim up, he is going to regret that number when Rockstar's lawyers harp on it and call into question his character.

Honestly, the 250 million is probably a negotiating tactic, that is assuming his lawyers are sane-ish. Still, 250 million, I swear that number looks like someone accidentally scored a couple extra zeros on there by mistake.

I doubt he'll get far with that claim.

Now, if he claimed his likeness was put into the character of OG Loc, then I might have an easier time believing him...

Starke:

j0frenzy:
Also, while I am generally a fan of punitive damages, this guy is seriously asking for way too much money for just a side character unless he has some strong evidence. I recognize the number they put on these lawsuits when they file them are entirely arbitrary, but still, if he has any actual evidence to back this claim up, he is going to regret that number when Rockstar's lawyers harp on it and call into question his character.

Honestly, the 250 million is probably a negotiating tactic, that is assuming his lawyers are sane-ish. Still, 250 million, I swear that number looks like someone accidentally scored a couple extra zeros on there by mistake.

A better bargaining position would honestly be within the 100k range. You are then talking about a small enough number that the corporate lawyers would sit down and make a quick settlement for half that amount. Nuisance suits are pretty much based around the idea of making it more cost effective to make the suit go away then actually go to court over it. That large amount screams for attention and wants Rockstar to realize that they are dealing with serious money, which is only going to make them not want to deal more out of indignation. Then again, I have no actual experience with negotiating these things. Given the evidence currently presented though, I would say Rockstar's best option is just to file a pre-trial motion to dismiss the case and not talk with this guy.

So, I should sue bioware since shepard resembles me? Because I made shepard resemble me? QUICK, To the lawyer bat-car!

Seriously, he has no case. Its been 6 years and he just BARELY figured this out?

Scrythe:
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IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE HIM

What is this guy getting in on the "Washed up nobody sues big-time game company" bandwagon?

Thank-you! You finished Tom's article for him by providing pictures of BOTH Michael "Shagg" Washington and CJ so we readers can judge for ourselves how close the two look. (Yeah, there's Google, but 1.A good article doesn't send its readers out to other sources for relevant info they'd likely want; 2.I searched images in Google for ["Michael Washington" "Cypress Hill"] and got a whole 16 results. Only 4 had pictures of people in them.)

One interesting thing I did learn, in my search for a picture of him, is he is listed in the credits.

his gang used to ride around on bicycles.

Street cred right there, dawg.

This is ridiculous. He doesn't look anything like him!

"I used to ride around my neighbourhood on bicycles."
Fan-fucking-tastic man. Now why does Rockstar owe you money?

Nobody's life is worth %250 million, let alone their image. I don't know where this guy gets off thinking he's worth that much. He said himself he doesn't play videogames, so how does this effect him?

Tom Goldman:
During his interview with Rockstar, he says that he talked about "details of his street life," including how his gang used to ride around on bicycles. There doesn't appear to be information available about something that might be more specific than these bicycles.

Washington's lawyer made this lame statement: "It's hard to believe that the makers of a game that allows you to shoot at cops, pick up prostitutes, and run over pedestrians at will, would actually cheat somebody out of money, but this seems to be the case." Way to be creative.

Unlss his details include shooting cops, picking up hookers, running anyone over, stealing fighter jets, breaking into area 51, driving on the pavement with a combine harvester, etc its not really copying. But hey if he gets that money im suing him for riding a bike, thats what I did when I was younger, bastard copied me.

I think lawsuits should be disregarded if they are filed 6 years after the original offense if the guy was perfectly able to file one then.

I think this really depends on how much of a likeness it is. If rockstar really did basically copy his entire life and image and use it in the game, especially after interviewing him about it, he's entitled to money.

Rockstar is a really shady ass company (read this and the comments if you don't believe me) and I wouldn't put this past them.

Commander Breetai:
Anyway, he's just a back-up singer. For hip-hop doesn't that basically just equate to grunting and saying "Yeah!" randomly?

They also mix it up by addin "C'mon!" here and there.

Also, this whole thing is ludicrous...the adjective not the rapper.

wait a second. i say, hey, you kind of look like that other guy and the offended party screams RACIST! but a black guy says, hey, i kind of look like that other guy and rockstar has to say, OK here's 250 million, sorry for the resemblance? what the hell!

j0frenzy:

Starke:

j0frenzy:
Also, while I am generally a fan of punitive damages, this guy is seriously asking for way too much money for just a side character unless he has some strong evidence. I recognize the number they put on these lawsuits when they file them are entirely arbitrary, but still, if he has any actual evidence to back this claim up, he is going to regret that number when Rockstar's lawyers harp on it and call into question his character.

Honestly, the 250 million is probably a negotiating tactic, that is assuming his lawyers are sane-ish. Still, 250 million, I swear that number looks like someone accidentally scored a couple extra zeros on there by mistake.

A better bargaining position would honestly be within the 100k range. You are then talking about a small enough number that the corporate lawyers would sit down and make a quick settlement for half that amount. Nuisance suits are pretty much based around the idea of making it more cost effective to make the suit go away then actually go to court over it. That large amount screams for attention and wants Rockstar to realize that they are dealing with serious money, which is only going to make them not want to deal more out of indignation. Then again, I have no actual experience with negotiating these things. Given the evidence currently presented though, I would say Rockstar's best option is just to file a pre-trial motion to dismiss the case and not talk with this guy.

Note that I did not say it was a good negotiating tactic. Just that it sounded like a tactic.

HEY! I have black(ish) skin too! OMG I also change my clothes!.....Holy cow I ride bikes and stuff as well! i should totally sue Rockstar.
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AzrealMaximillion:
Search the voice acter for CJ( Christopher "Young Maylay" Bellard). Looks exactly like CJ. Rockstar could bring him into court as exhibit "A", put him beside a screenshot of CJ and the Judge would rule in favour of Rockstar.

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Seriously.

Wow. Michael Washington is just flattering himself.

EllEzDee:

xXDeMoNiCXx:
I'm not racist but a lot of black guys seem to do whatever it takes to seem gangster and this seems like the most elaborate way someone has ever attempted to do that.

Yes, a lot of black people act gangster, eat chicken and watermelons and listen to rap music. You're either a troll, or an idiot.

Commander Breetai:
Anyway, he's just a back-up singer. For hip-hop doesn't that basically just equate to grunting and saying "Yeah!" randomly?

This_ends_now:

Commander Breetai:
Anyway, he's just a back-up singer. For hip-hop doesn't that basically just equate to grunting and saying "Yeah!" randomly?

I'm pretty sure they also need to use some variation of the pharse "motherfuckin'" and "bitch" as well.

Wow, this thread is seemingly full of idiots.
That said, this guy making claims against Rockstar must have had quite a life, what with being the first man on earth to use a jetpack, especially one stolen from a high security military base. I imagine his bicycle gang had something to do with it.

For someone so quick to call other people negative things you yourself clearly don't put much brain power into what you type. I am neither of the things you claim that I am, I just go by what I see. So just do yourself a favor and stop embarrassing yourself.

M "S" W: You see one day my momma died so I took a trip back home from, but then these cops jacked me while I was in a taxi cab and then I had go home on a bike. Then I started tagging all sorts of places around the city and then out of nowhere guns just starting popping up at my house. And then one day the police were chasing me so I ducked into a paint shop and changed the color of the car and no one followed me any more. But then the cops grabbed me again and took me outside of the city, and eventually I had to help an old hippie burn down his marijuana patch before the cops could get to it. And then I raced this blind Chinese guy who started building a casino, but before I could help him some agent from the government had me buy out an abandoned airstrip in the middle of no where so that I could jack a fighter planes for him...

2K Rep: Yes... go on...

xXDeMoNiCXx:

EllEzDee:

xXDeMoNiCXx:
I'm not racist but a lot of black guys seem to do whatever it takes to seem gangster and this seems like the most elaborate way someone has ever attempted to do that.

Yes, a lot of black people act gangster, eat chicken and watermelons and listen to rap music. You're either a troll, or an idiot.

Commander Breetai:
Anyway, he's just a back-up singer. For hip-hop doesn't that basically just equate to grunting and saying "Yeah!" randomly?

This_ends_now:

I'm pretty sure they also need to use some variation of the pharse "motherfuckin'" and "bitch" as well.

Wow, this thread is seemingly full of idiots.
That said, this guy making claims against Rockstar must have had quite a life, what with being the first man on earth to use a jetpack, especially one stolen from a high security military base. I imagine his bicycle gang had something to do with it.

For someone so quick to call other people negative things you yourself clearly don't put much brain power into what you type. I am neither of the things you claim that I am, I just go by what I see. So just do yourself a favor and stop embarrassing yourself.

Sorry, how did i "not put much brain power" into what i typed? I know the word "troll" gets thrown around far too often, but it seems like that's exactly what you're doing. Either that, or you really are an idiot. Let's analyse what you said shall we?
"I'm not racist": So before you started, you knew what you were saying would be controversial/stupid and/or racist.
"a lot of black guys seem to do whatever it takes to seem gangster": So how could this, in your head, not seem racist? Openly suggesting that blacks do their best to act as a racial stereotype...you know what never mind. It's probably best to ignore you than get into a flamewar.

He only noticed this 6 years later?

I have a feeling it's been six long years in a hard economy and now the guy is just desperate for an influx of cash.

In threads like these seeing the bit racist comments and kiddos bashing rap, it makes me feel a bit sick. I'm really ashamed to be a part of this community at times.

That's not the craziest lawsuit I've read about, but that sounds rather far-fetched.

I found myself in GTA4.

I was thrilled

does this mean I could sue too?

Cause who the fuck is this guy? Noone. Just like me.

It's awesome reading all these brilliant legal opinions. Maybe it's because I'm a law student, and maybe it's because I'm generally pro-plaintiff, but I'm actually curious to see what happens if this case makes it to discovery. I'm sure Rockstar will try to get the case dismissed, but they did interview the guy for a few hours, and it is ACTUALLY possible that the used some of his information without his consent or knowledge. If that's the case he probably should get some money from Rockstar, probably not $250 million mind you, but something.

My request for all of you though is please don't over react asking that we string plaintiff's up by the nutsack for suing for what appears from the outside to be crap. The Supreme Court is doing a bang-up job at making it more difficult to even get in the Courthouse door without the public crying out for it to be even harder.

They will offer him 50.000$ he will say yes, thats how the system works, Unless they counter sue him

I can smell the hand of Jack Thompson in here. Somewhere. It's all part of his plan to screw both blacks and games. But I'm on to you, Thompson! I AM!

Wow...Kinda late to sue isn't it?

And really? I did ride my bike to with some friends when i was younger...Those that mean we can sue Rockstar too?

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