Piracy Critic Admits to Huge Pirated Music Collection

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Nikolaz72:

dududf:
Do you hate piracy?
*links to video that has a song in it, that is being sold*
You're now a hypocrite.

I believe if the guy hosting the video hosts it on a website it goes by the same rule as others listening in while you play music in your house as it is in a "Private space" you are technically in your room and he is technically playing the music from his computer/web while you listen to it. Though if you linked to a copyrighted musicvideo that you are sure the guy hosting does not in fact own and you/others watch it, your statement is correct.

I don't know the technicalities, but I'd assume it'd be fine if you're doing like a podcast, and you had some music. But hosting the video, for everyone to see should be about the same as pirating, as it's purpose is to share the music, while not making people pay to do so.

Man, hypocrisy at it's finest ladies and gentlemen... :(

Wow...She got crushed by her son.

And then to blame it all one hime. I bet in the next wordbook that the word hypocrite will have a picture of her.

Jiraiya72:

PayJ567:

JaredXE:

Her credibility was shot the moment she admitted about the knock-off handbags and lied about "Losing a million kroner". Her son just pointed out that mommy shouldn't lie. Besides, I hardly think her career is damaged, she writes childrens books; kids don't pay attention to this crap.

Good on her son, he held his mother to the same morals that she probably held him to.

Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.

Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)

Wow! I dare you to say that to the people who raised you, "I owe you nothing." If that doesn't sound ungrateful then I don't know what does. Words from an absolutely spoiled mouth.
Sure it's law, but you forget if you don't take care of your children they are taken and put in foster care. Do you want to be in foster care? Ever been in foster care? Where you will spin around in the system, until(which can sometimes never happen)someone decides to adopt you.
So maybe when your home with your ipod, new console, wearing the latest fashion, borrowing money,and the cars. All of which is a privilege not a right, because all that is required legally is food,cloths,shelter, and safe living environment.
Wow what a spoiled brat you are.

danpascooch:

Jiraiya72:

PayJ567:

Haha "Character Assassinated" do you actually listen to yourself talk?

I mean really, you are clearly like a typical angsty teenager. Soon you'll grow up and realise all what your parents have done for you, or maybe you never will and you'll live a failure of a life and blame it all on your parents or someone else.

Do you listen to -yourself-? I'm the one siding on the Just side of the law and morals and you're calling me an angsty teen? Maybe you'll realize that just because people had children, doesn't mean they deserve respect. All they've done for me? Please don't say things like you -know- I had an easy life.

Don't bother, the guy obviously has some sort of unhealthy view/relationship with his parents. Equating respect to covering up illegal activity is dangerous and insane.

Respect does have to be earned, but unfortunately that line is used too often as an excuse for ungrateful punks to say they don't owe anything to their parents, which overwhelmingly more often then not they do.

I disagree with you that you don't owe anything to your parents, and that it's their job to do everything they do. But I believe the most anyone owes them is their eternal appreciation as long as they took reasonably good care of them. It doesn't mean you should be their slaves, and it sure as hell doesn't mean you should cover up crimes they commit.

Of course, I don't know you, I have no idea who you are or what your family is like, this is just my two-cents on what applies to probably 90% of us.

This is a great comment. I read through all this thread and decided not to get involved as it seemed to be spiralling dangerously out of control. You have very concisely summed up how I feel about this argument. Many thanks.

Not to get all tangenty but there are a ton of problems in society to do with parenting, or a lack there of. I mean just ask the thousands of kids on council estates across Britain, who were literally conceived by their parents with an amount of extra benefit money in mind, if their parents love them. You should never assume that all children should respect their parents and there are just as many undeserving parents who get it as those who don't.
*Gets off soapbox*

Sounds like people should cut her some slack, probably didn't know her kid was doing it.
And as far as I'm concerned, unemployed, students and kids - the people with absolutely no money to spare, should be allowed to pirate. What are you going to do? sue them for their 4 a week pocket money?
Only when they have the means to pay, and they don't, is there a problem for me.

But pirating books, and pirating music are very different.
If you pirate music and like it, you're likely to go see a concert. Books don't have this. I justify the amount of music I pirate with the amount of money I spend on seeing those bands.
They may have lost me spending 8 on their album, but they've got me spending 15 on their concert, which I'd otherwise never have gone to.

EDIT: To quote from an amazing film: "Rotten kids... You work your life out." people should really cut their parents some slack.

How does someone so stupid write something people want to pirate anyway?

Honestly, that is one hell of a hypocrite...

Wow. So apparently my parents did a much better job of raising me than several people in this thread's parents raised them, because my parents would totally be disappointed in me if I didn't call them out on this kind of bullshit.

Seriously, what kind of parent raises their kid to cover up all their dirty little secrets for them? That's just wrong.

ZephrC:
Wow. So apparently my parents did a much better job of raising me than several people in this thread's parents raised them, because my parents would totally be disappointed in me if I didn't call them out on this kind of bullshit.

Seriously, what kind of parent raises their kid to cover up all their dirty little secrets for them? That's just wrong.

Yeah, I remember the phone rang once and my dad said "Hey, if it's from the job, say that I'm not at home". I picked up the phone, it was from the job and they asked if my dad was available. I told them "He says he's not at home".
Not very fond of parents that try to use their kids to lie or deceipt others for their own gain.

RDubayoo:
An important thing to remember in this incident is that, if someone says doing something is wrong, then goes on to do that very thing, this does not necessarily disprove the rule that this person was trying to establish. It merely means that this person was incapable of living up to his own standard, nothing more. It could be that the standard is too difficult to live up to, but, honestly? Choosing to pirate or not to pirate? That isn't hard at all unless you have a complete lack of self-control.

Even so, it's hardly surprising when people who simply don't want to live by the rules actively look for people to deem to be hypocrites, not so much to call them out on their hypocrisy but so that they can feel justified in not living by the rules themselves. Hence, a lot of pirates are going to see this article and think that it's ok to pirate because:

quiet_samurai:
HA! I knew it, just goes to show you, digital piracy is deeply sewn into modern society. Even the ones who speak against it are not immune. It's a fact of life, you canoot stop it.

Trouble is, they're wrong. Society can't work under that sort of logic. What happens if a major politician condemns murder, then murders someone? Is it okay to murder people now? "Everyone's doing it, even the guys who say it's wrong, so I get to murder people too! Durrrr" No, of course not. So we have to eliminate the hypocrisy of those who claim to advocate law-abiding behavior as a justification for breaking the law. And when we do that, the remaining justifications for piracy boil down to people with child-like mentalities whining that it's not faaaiiiir that they have to pay for the things they want.

Holy exageration post Batman!!!!

Using murder as an example, and as a relating topic, to argue against digital piracy is in no way even remotely accurate. They are completely, completely, COMPLETELY, different things. It's like saying the guy that smokes weed is just as bad as the guy that cooks meth in his house around his children. Applying the same sort of scenarios and catagorizing things together that are not even remotely equal is idiotic and desperate seeming.

I'm not surprised by this in the slightest.

Lets be honest here, EVERYONE has broken the law or done something otherwise dubious at some point in their life. Be it smoking pot, driving faster than the speed limit or giving a friend your copy of a computer game to try (or indeed, copying that floppy).

But what we're also seeing is the fact that ALL the people telling us not to do something have in fact done it themselves to one degree or another. Which really just slaps most people in the face.

samaugsch:
I owe NOTHING to my parents. They chose to give birth to me and raise me so I feel no obligation to them. Sure, you could bring up the argument that they care about me to death and what not, but sometimes, they infuriate me for those very reasons. They pay too much attention to everything I do, which can limit some of the things that I can do that I want to do, and it makes me sick. I'm sure this makes me sound childish, but this is honestly how I feel.

I feel sorry for your parents.

PayJ567:
Oh that's well funny there son. Destroy your mums credibility and damage her career. Although I'm glad she was found out as a hypocrite that is no way for a son to act.

Little cunt.

Hell, means he was raised right. Sticking to his values, and standing up against hypocrisy. Just cos it's his mum, doesn't make it bad.

And it's not like her pirated music collection is going to ruin her ability to write novels, is it?

Look in the dictionary under hypocrite and your find her picture.

Mackheath:
Fucking hypocrisy. Makes me sick.

Do as I say, not as I do right enough.

Pretty much the status quo with anyone that has a voice these days. Look at all of those politicians that bawl and rally against homosexuality only to be gay or have gay children. Okay, so the allegory may be off, but I don't think my point is lost.

I'll bet she's not exactly alone in this, just the only one caught at the moment.

aaronmcc:

danpascooch:

Jiraiya72:
Do you listen to -yourself-? I'm the one siding on the Just side of the law and morals and you're calling me an angsty teen? Maybe you'll realize that just because people had children, doesn't mean they deserve respect. All they've done for me? Please don't say things like you -know- I had an easy life.

Don't bother, the guy obviously has some sort of unhealthy view/relationship with his parents. Equating respect to covering up illegal activity is dangerous and insane.

Respect does have to be earned, but unfortunately that line is used too often as an excuse for ungrateful punks to say they don't owe anything to their parents, which overwhelmingly more often then not they do.

I disagree with you that you don't owe anything to your parents, and that it's their job to do everything they do. But I believe the most anyone owes them is their eternal appreciation as long as they took reasonably good care of them. It doesn't mean you should be their slaves, and it sure as hell doesn't mean you should cover up crimes they commit.

Of course, I don't know you, I have no idea who you are or what your family is like, this is just my two-cents on what applies to probably 90% of us.

This is a great comment. I read through all this thread and decided not to get involved as it seemed to be spiralling dangerously out of control. You have very concisely summed up how I feel about this argument. Many thanks.

Not to get all tangenty but there are a ton of problems in society to do with parenting, or a lack there of. I mean just ask the thousands of kids on council estates across Britain, who were literally conceived by their parents with an amount of extra benefit money in mind, if their parents love them. You should never assume that all children should respect their parents and there are just as many undeserving parents who get it as those who don't.
*Gets off soapbox*

Thanks, parenting is one hell of an issue, probably in the top three most complicated relationships anyone has, I've had my share of rough patches just like anyone else but I think as far as the respect thing goes, if someone is not sure if they deserve respect, they almost always do, because I believe if they don't deserve respect, it will be blatantly obvious (Like, a dad who's a coked up car stereo thief who feeds you once a day)

Spot1990:

danpascooch:

Spot1990:
Gotta go with Pay on this one, if you disagree with something a loved one is doing, do so more tactfully. Don't humiliate your own mum in the media. I mean if they were being interviewed together their relationship probably isn't that strained, if she's a bad mum and lost the respect of her son somehow fair enough (but we've got no indication of anything like that). To throw your mum under the bus for something so petty is poor form.

EDIT: I mean I don't know about the rest of you but my mum was there to help me deal with and clean up a fair few of my own messes and I'd do the same for her.

You realize we have absolutely no idea how/if he confronted her about this in the past, right?

"We copied the first 1500 songs from one place and 300 from another."Key word, "we". Considering he was doing it too it seems unlikely.

I just realized, do we even know how old this kid is?

For all we know he's an 11 year old who doesn't even realize how serious this is.

RowdyRodimus:

Jiraiya72:

RowdyRodimus:

1) Give me a game that's worth $60

Mass Effect
Oblivion

Mass Effect is close but not really. Oblivion isn't worth a free rental.

Run, run for your life, you just pissed off GOD

Andy Chalk:

samaugsch:
I owe NOTHING to my parents. They chose to give birth to me and raise me so I feel no obligation to them. Sure, you could bring up the argument that they care about me to death and what not, but sometimes, they infuriate me for those very reasons. They pay too much attention to everything I do, which can limit some of the things that I can do that I want to do, and it makes me sick. I'm sure this makes me sound childish, but this is honestly how I feel.

I feel sorry for your parents.

So do I.

Damn, I thought I had issues, but reading through this thread is scary. You've got people on one side who think you should cover up criminal activity for your parents because of some tangible debt, and people on the other side who think they owe them nothing (and the way this kid talks about his parents, they're obviously not neglectful and abusive).

I don't know which extreme is scarier (probably the first one) but as usual, I think it falls somewhere in the middle. You owe your parents (this is of course assuming they aren't neglectful and abusive, and I mean for REAL, not like 95% of the time someone claims their parents are) but you only owe them your appreciation, you don't owe them an arm, or a leg, or a felony.

mjc0961:
Ha! What a tool she is. I'd go pirate some of her books just for spite, but I'm not a scumbag like she is.

thublihnk:
Hypocrite, just like the rest of the pirate brow-beaters.

Right because the pirates themselves are so much better, what with their stealing everything.

Piracy is not stealing you fucking clownshoe... Besides, if you support Wikileaks and don't support filesharing you're as much of a hypocrit as this here woman

Is it me or does this kinda thing seem to happen a lot?

Wardy

TheAngryMonkey:

Jiraiya72:

PayJ567:

Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.

Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)

Wow! I dare you to say that to the people who raised you, "I owe you nothing." If that doesn't sound ungrateful then I don't know what does. Words from an absolutely spoiled mouth.
Sure it's law, but you forget if you don't take care of your children they are taken and put in foster care. Do you want to be in foster care? Ever been in foster care? Where you will spin around in the system, until(which can sometimes never happen)someone decides to adopt you.
So maybe when your home with your ipod, new console, wearing the latest fashion, borrowing money,and the cars. All of which is a privilege not a right, because all that is required legally is food,cloths,shelter, and safe living environment.
Wow what a spoiled brat you are.

Maybe you should stop assuming things and making personal attacks. You know nothing of my life, and your arrogance is showing.

reg42:

Jiraiya72:

PayJ567:

Well I disagree you just don't treat the women who raised you and paid for you since birth like this. Regardless of what it did the kid is a shit ungrateful spoilt brat he should be fucking spanked for eternity for this.

Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)

I literally stared at this comment for 2 minutes trying to understand it. You know they could've given you up for fucking adoption right?

But didn't. So therefore the responsibility falls to them.

One hypocrite down, a few million more to expose, and all that piracy debate might turn into something constructive, after all.

And for the record - I sure as hell don't owe a thing to my parents (that is, the half of my parents that had the decency of not disappearing before I was even born). And no child owes to their parents covering up their crimes - some might feel the obligation to, or at least do it in a more subtle way then calling the news, but still.

timeadept:

justnotcricket:
Hm, on the one hand, I'm not surprised, as naturally the only kind of piracy people are most likely to feel really bad about is one that affects them or someone they know. She's committed the usual faux pas of taking too strong a stance on something that she actually has a mixed relationship with. Politicians do this all the time.

On the other hand, I think she's perfectly justified in dropping her son in it - after all, he dropped her in it first. I'm sorry, but if you behave in that way toward your mother, she can turn right around and do the same thing to you. He's not 3 years old and can't pull the 'out of the mouths of babes' excuse. He knew what his words would do. Regardless of the circumstances, mothers are not doormats, and kids who deliberately do things to damage their parents should not be immune from some sort of retribution. It's not like he blew the whistle on her secret kidnapping and torture of Jewish children or something. He just decided to shit-stir.

Yeah he deserves punishment, but he doesn't deserve to take responsibility for something he didn't actually do. His mom should make his life shit for a few months, but she's doing the wrong thing by trying to dodge responsibility for her actions, again(referring to her saying brand name bags were too expensive anyways), especially by shifting the responsibility onto her son.

Perhaps that's true, but - how do we know he *didn't* actually download some or all of the music? In my experience it's typically the kids these days who have 'control' of the iPods etc. I'm in no way excusing her hypocrisy, and in fact sheer stupidity if he did download all those and she knew about it, but I don't think we have all the facts. Bottom line: she's stupid, he's a shit stirrer. I have to admit I haven't read all the news on the subject, but in cases like these the actual truth tends to be pretty hard to find, especially when it turns into a case of 'he said/she said'.

This is almost as funny as Republicans who are against homosexuality get busted in the men's bathroom at the airport.

Hypocrasy, thy name is delicious.

Jiraiya72:

TheAngryMonkey:

Jiraiya72:
Also, you owe nothing to your parents for raising you. They chose to have children and they have to take care of you. It is their job and responsibility. (Which should be obvious due to the fact it's illegal not to take care of your kids)

Wow! I dare you to say that to the people who raised you, "I owe you nothing." If that doesn't sound ungrateful then I don't know what does. Words from an absolutely spoiled mouth.
Sure it's law, but you forget if you don't take care of your children they are taken and put in foster care. Do you want to be in foster care? Ever been in foster care? Where you will spin around in the system, until(which can sometimes never happen)someone decides to adopt you.
So maybe when your home with your ipod, new console, wearing the latest fashion, borrowing money,and the cars. All of which is a privilege not a right, because all that is required legally is food,cloths,shelter, and safe living environment.
Wow what a spoiled brat you are.

Maybe you should stop assuming things and making personal attacks. You know nothing of my life, and your arrogance is showing.

Ya I may have flown off the handle a bit, I had a look at your post again with sober eyes. With the response you gave me, I understand your tone and intent in the original post.
Yay internet rage, everyone is a Troll now and then.
Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.
or
Happy Holidays
Which every works.

This is all about limiting Free Speech. After all, censorship is everywhere. The gov't (and their big business cronies) censor free speech, shut down dissent and ban the book "America Deceived II". Free speech for all.
Last link (before Google Books bans it also]:
http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526

I'd be willing to bet that most of the copyright infringement lawyers have pirated music on their iPods. Well they're stuffy lawyers types, so they probably have pirated music on their blackberry instead.

I just love hypocrisy.
It's the best kind of humour and the most valuable rumour.

That kid deserves a medal. You know you have crap parents when they don't man up to their mistakes.

words cannot describe how ironic this is

quiet_samurai:
HA! I knew it, just goes to show you, digital piracy is deeply sewn into modern society. Even the ones who speak against it are not immune. It's a fact of life, you canoot stop it.

but you can sure as hell get suspended for even talking about it, this is why the Escapist Mods are a little too active in piracy threads in my opinion, you can't be discriminated against for any belief, accept free distribution, god forbid

Flying Dagger:
Sounds like people should cut her some slack, probably didn't know her kid was doing it.
And as far as I'm concerned, unemployed, students and kids - the people with absolutely no money to spare, should be allowed to pirate. What are you going to do? sue them for their 4 a week pocket money?
Only when they have the means to pay, and they don't, is there a problem for me.

But pirating books, and pirating music are very different.
If you pirate music and like it, you're likely to go see a concert. Books don't have this. I justify the amount of music I pirate with the amount of money I spend on seeing those bands.
They may have lost me spending 8 on their album, but they've got me spending 15 on their concert, which I'd otherwise never have gone to.

EDIT: To quote from an amazing film: "Rotten kids... You work your life out." people should really cut their parents some slack.

Plus the band get all that concert cash instead of 65p from the album sale (if they have sold enough to pay back the advance, which is unlikely)

If a person says they are opposed to murder and later commits murder, has that now made murder ok?? No. Same with piracy. Hypocrisy does not make something right, it just shows the hypocrite to be a jerk............

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