Lead Designer of Civilization V Calls It Quits

Lead Designer of Civilization V Calls It Quits

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The designer of Civilization V has left the company where Sid Meier works.

Based in Maryland, Firaxis has been making Civilization games since it was founded in 1996 by several staffers from MicroProse, including Sid Meier. The company has created some of the greatest strategy games ever including Alpha Centauri, Colonization and Pirates!. Even though most of these games bear Sid Meier's name, he acts more as a creative director and the lead design position is usually filled by a another person. On Civilization IV, the Lead Designer was Soren Johnson while Brian Reynolds designed Civ II and Alpha Centauri. The Lead Designer of Civilization V was Jon Shafer, a veteran of the modding community of Civ III even though he was only a teenager when that game was released. But today, a scant few months after he shipped Civ V, Shafer revealed that he has left Firaxis, the company that first hired him as an intern in 2005.

"I very much enjoyed my time Firaxis, worked on many projects that I've very proud of and got to know a lot of amazing people," Shafer said. "I'm appreciative of the opportunities provided by Firaxis and 2K, and hope to see (and play) more great games from them in the future."

It appears that the departure is amicable to both sides as Shafer made sure to say that he left willingly and was not fired or pushed out. Firaxis marketing director Kelley Gilmore said, "We are grateful for Jon's contributions to Firaxis and the Civilization franchise and wish him all the best in the future."

Shafer is still young, and it's often been said that the only way to get ahead in American society is to jump from company to company, but it seems odd for him to depart so soon after completing a successful project like Civ V. Will we see more innovative game design from Shafer at another firm? Will the Civilization V team continue to support the game with DLC and expansions?

The future is wide open for Shafer, but I'm not sure it's bright enough to wear shades.

Source: Flash of Steel

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What does this mean for the Civ 5 expansions?!

Anyway, best of luck to him!

I suppose he just wants to do other things, i hope he can work on projects as well crafted and frankly brilliant as Civ 5. All the best to him.

Well, good luck to ya' Jon!

Just try to avoid making any more games that eat away at my life, will you?

Onyx Oblivion:
What does this mean for the Civ 5 expansions?!

Anyway, best of luck to him!

They might actually be good?

Honestly, I think Greg Tito here is a little nice when he calls civ 5 a successful project. That game has gotten more hate than any Sid Meier's Civilization game ever.

best of luck mr shafer, thanks for refreshing civ for us.

Zechnophobe:

Onyx Oblivion:
What does this mean for the Civ 5 expansions?!

Anyway, best of luck to him!

They might actually be good?

Honestly, I think Greg Tito here is a little nice when he calls civ 5 a successful project. That game has gotten more hate than any Sid Meier's Civilization game ever.

really? I heard from reviewers to friends that the game is great.

Zechnophobe:

Onyx Oblivion:
What does this mean for the Civ 5 expansions?!

Anyway, best of luck to him!

They might actually be good?

Honestly, I think Greg Tito here is a little nice when he calls civ 5 a successful project. That game has gotten more hate than any Sid Meier's Civilization game ever.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/938528-sid-meiers-civilization-v/reviews
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/sid-meiers-civilization-v

Hate. :D

Although a 7.1 rating on user scores means there must have been a bit of hate too

Metacritic score says it all really. 9.0 From Professional Reviewers... 7.1 from actual players. You can almost always tell when a game has failed expectations when the user reviewers are so much lower than the professional ones.

I can understand why some people think it is a good game. And honestly, it isn't a stinker. But compared to the line of games before it, it compares fairly poorly.

I mean, Civ 5 even paid escapist to do that top 5 thing... and 4 top 5's down the road, and no one has even mentioned the game. It just isn't on par with the other titles, and that makes it somewhat depressing.

Greg Tito:
Will the Civilization V team continue to support the game with DLC and expansions?

I'd be happier if they fixed some of the bugs, including the new ones that appeared since the mega-patch.

The people in this thread, they don't know that the hardcore Civ fans hate Civ V more than any other group of people out there.

Although the patch fixed a lot of the problems, the game is still too easy, the AI is still terrible and the UI sucks.

If any of you guys are doubters about how much hate this game gets, here's this article on the CivFanatics forums.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=404189

He'll find more opportunities elsewhere. I wish him the best of luck.

The_root_of_all_evil:

Greg Tito:
Will the Civilization V team continue to support the game with DLC and expansions?

I'd be happier if they fixed some of the bugs, including the new ones that appeared since the mega-patch.

Indeed. Like how now when I play for more then 10 minutes the game freezes.

I'm really liking Civilization 5, and most of the hate seems to come from veterans going ITS NOT CIV4 MURKADURK.

Zechnophobe:

Onyx Oblivion:
What does this mean for the Civ 5 expansions?!

Anyway, best of luck to him!

They might actually be good?

Honestly, I think Greg Tito here is a little nice when he calls civ 5 a successful project. That game has gotten more hate than any Sid Meier's Civilization game ever.

Civ 3 got a hell of a lot of hate, as did Civ 4. When a player invests as much time into these games as they do, they tend to become attached to that version, and hate the change.

And the "hardcore" in the CFC forums rejoice!*goes to CFC to see the aftermath*

Is that 5? It looks like crap...Looks like I'll be sticking with Beyond the Sword.

Supp:
The people in this thread, they don't know that the hardcore Civ fans hate Civ V more than any other group of people out there.

Although the patch fixed a lot of the problems, the game is still too easy, the AI is still terrible and the UI sucks.

If any of you guys are doubters about how much hate this game gets, here's this article on the CivFanatics forums.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=404189

Forums are a place of hate, never of love. Most people that love the game play it instead of complaining on the forums.

Supp:
The people in this thread, they don't know that the hardcore Civ fans hate Civ V more than any other group of people out there.

That must mean it's really good. Because in my experience, the more hardcore fans hate something, the better it is. Just look at Splinter Cell Conviction.

I feel this picture is appropriate:
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lomylithruldor:
[quote="Supp" post="7.252270.9370758"]
Forums are a place of hate, never of love. Most people that love the game play it instead of complaining on the forums.

I love the game. I play the game. The game is great. Shame the AI is too stupid to play it.

Zechnophobe:
They might actually be good?

Honestly, I think Greg Tito here is a little nice when he calls civ 5 a successful project. That game has gotten more hate than any Sid Meier's Civilization game ever.

Where? Aside from hardcore Civ-fans who are so set in their ways they'll never accept anything new, I have heard nothing but good things.

Vakz:

Zechnophobe:
They might actually be good?

Honestly, I think Greg Tito here is a little nice when he calls civ 5 a successful project. That game has gotten more hate than any Sid Meier's Civilization game ever.

Where? Aside from hardcore Civ-fans who are so set in their ways they'll never accept anything new, I have heard nothing but good things.

Well, who likes it, other than easily impressed neophytes?

See how your logic looks when someone uses it against you?

Fact is, the number of people participating in its community, right now, is about the same size as the number of people in the Civ 4 community. Considering the latter is a much older game, it's hard to say that 5 is as widely successful.

Zechnophobe:
Well, who likes it, other than easily impressed neophytes?

See how your logic looks when someone uses it against you?

Fact is, the number of people participating in its community, right now, is about the same size as the number of people in the Civ 4 community. Considering the latter is a much older game, it's hard to say that 5 is as widely successful.

What I meant was that their will simply always be the hardcore fans who will never accept anything new in the series. This goes for pretty much every sequel ever of any successful game, it's impossible to please everyone.

I do not frequent Civ-sites, so the community I'm aware of is pretty much the "general" gaming community, like this forum for example, and a few others like this one, and the whole point of the second part of what I wrote, is that I have honestly read nothing bad about Civ V until I read this thread.

Vakz:

Zechnophobe:
Well, who likes it, other than easily impressed neophytes?

See how your logic looks when someone uses it against you?

Fact is, the number of people participating in its community, right now, is about the same size as the number of people in the Civ 4 community. Considering the latter is a much older game, it's hard to say that 5 is as widely successful.

What I meant was that their will simply always be the hardcore fans who will never accept anything new in the series. This goes for pretty much every sequel ever of any successful game, it's impossible to please everyone.

I do not frequent Civ-sites, so the community I'm aware of is pretty much the "general" gaming community, like this forum for example, and a few others like this one, and the whole point of the second part of what I wrote, is that I have honestly read nothing bad about Civ V until I read this thread.

The thing is, that it isn't a terrible game. But imagine each year at christmas, your parents gave you 100 dollars. Then one year, your parents have a second child, and from that year on, they only give you 50 dollars. The second child has no idea that this isn't just awesome free money, but you can't help but feel like you are missing out.

And of course, in the real world, it isn't a gift, but something you payed for. I put 50 hours into civ 5. Seems good right? I've stopped playing and don't intend to go back. I've put in, quite literally, 500 hours into civ 4, and still play it.

 

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