"Videogames Cause Rape" Author Gets Amazonbombed

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"Videogames Cause Rape" Author Gets Amazonbombed

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Carole Lieberman, the author and psychologist who stirred up a whole lot of nerd rage recently when she told Fox News that videogames cause rape, is being Amazonbombed.

Fox News recently caused some predictable outrage with a report suggesting that among their many other inherent evils, videogames turn people into rapists. "The increase in rapes can be attributed in large part to the playing out of [sexual] scenes in videogames" was the exact line, coming from one Carole Lieberman, an Emmy award-winning "media psychiatrist," author and expert-witness-for-hire. You can imagine how well that went over.

So as it is wont to do, the internet is now expressing its outrage by Amazonbombing her latest book, Bad Girls: Why Men Love Them and How Good Girls Can Learn Their Secrets. GamePolitics says the tome has gone from six reviews to 40 this morning, the vast majority of them one-star ratings that have dragged its overall review score down to a lowly 1.5/5.

It's interesting to note that while some of the "reviewers" make no bones about the fact that their anger is rooted in Lieberman's ridiculous anti-game comments on Fox, many others take issue with the concept of the book itself: that it encourages women to use sexual manipulation and deceit to get ahead in the world. I haven't read it so I can't really comment but the cover sure ain't subtle.

Odds are that Amazon will pull the plug on at least some of the one-star reviews fairly quickly, although the fact that most of them are civil and more or less on topic could splash some confusion on the process.

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I love karma.

Ah, when we nerds get pissed off we can do some awesome things every now and then.
Though they should've seen this coming, same thing happened when Mass Effect was called a "rape simulator" about 3 years ago.

Good stuff.

If I'd have read about her book before even hearing about what she said about games. I'd have agreed with the bad reviews she's getting on it now.

It's detrimental for women to have some people like this advising them to promiscuously sleep around for no other reason than to get ahead.

This isn't the 80's. You can get by on your own merit. Of-course that's probably difficult if you don't have any.

Well I guess we can take that book as a confession of how she really made it into the public light.

It's kind of immature of people to Amazonbomb her like this.

But on the other hand:

'Bad Girls' will have a devastating influence on the youth of the world. Children as young as 9-years-old are being exposed to this text.

I can state with certainty that any increase in crime rate that may have been noted near your hometown can be attributed in large part to the authorship of this book.

That was pretty funny.

We live in a world in which provides us tools. Tools which give us power to smite those who would oppose ue.

Yes!!! Inteligant hate, I love it!!!

Nothing sweeter.

Andy Chalk:
"Videogames Cause Rape" Author Gets Amazonbombed

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Carole Lieberman, the author and psychologistiatrist who stirred up a whole lot of nerd rage recently when she told Fox News that videogames cause rape, is being Amazonbombed.

You've still got her name wrong. The link even says Dr. Carole. And shes a Psychiatrist, NOT a psychologist (there is a difference!).

++ On the amazonbombing. Shes incredibly arrogant and is not exactly a scientist. Way to make psychologists (which she is not, but people keep calling her) look bad.

see now she deserves this, not for her comment on games but for her entire philosophy, iv read a few extracts from that book, and i think iv seen a few other pieces of her and shes just a bad person plain and simple, itwould be a shame if amazon pulled those one stars as she really does deserve them

Remember kids, psychology is more than saying "I'm a psychologist," then saying your opinion is fact because you're a psychologist.

In other news Karma is a bitch

Lost In The Void:
Remember kids, psychology is more than saying "I'm a psychologist," then saying your opinion is fact because you're a psychologist.

In other news Karma is a bitch

Shes a psychiatrist (med doctor first) not a psychologist. Shes trained in a totally different way.

That being said, your statement still holds true.

I'm not sure what angers me more: her face in her picture, the title and message of her book, or her the crap she spewed out while on Fox.

I have a feeling that it is indeed a bad book, given the title... but do any of you actually know they contents without reading it? Regardless, I think this is funny. I guess Karma can be a "bad girl" too lol. People should put how all their little princesses are going to turn into drug-addicts now (by my definition of stereotypical good girls versus bad girls, not saying anything against anyone). Hmmmmmmm......

Phyroxis:
Shes a psychiatrist (med doctor first) not a psychologist. Shes trained in a totally different way.

Considering it was most likely mail order, I don't think the distinction matters.

And let me get this straight, she's telling women that they should sexually appeal to men because then men will give you nice things, then decrying video games for causing rape.. sometimes people scare me a bit. :S

Reminds me of when people bombed that one woman's book on amazon after she said "I haven't played Mass Effect, but I'm sure I know what its about" or something like that. She then went on to call it a "rape simulator" among other things. Then her book was bombed with people saying "I haven't read this book, but I'm sure its about how to molest children." Or something like that.

Phyroxis:

Lost In The Void:
Remember kids, psychology is more than saying "I'm a psychologist," then saying your opinion is fact because you're a psychologist.

In other news Karma is a bitch

Shes a psychiatrist (med doctor first) not a psychologist. Shes trained in a totally different way.

That being said, your statement still holds true.

Well in that case most of her knowledge should lie in mental medication so what is she doing writing books that seem to be more rooted in the psychology side of mental health rather than psychiatry. That makes her seem even more dumb than she already appeared to be.

Just like the idiot from Mass Effect. Whining about sex in games, but the cover of her book was super "sex appeal buy me!" too.

Enjoy your heaping dose of karma, lady.

I know what angers me more than anything. her EXISTANCE

Andy Chalk:
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Yet another activist-author pushing ridiculous beliefs about men. Games don't cause rape. Rape causes rape. But encouraging women to dangle this expectation of sex by playing the part of "bad girls"--specifically to play upon this supposed primal urges we caveman-like menfolk have--certainly doesn't help.

That is not to say anything excuses rape, let's be clear. What we're saying here is that there's an underlying inconsistency in her beliefs about men. Either:

a) Men can, should, and do control their response to sexual urges, meaning they are wholly responsible during those times when they do not. (This, by the by, is my belief.)

or b) Men can be "fooled" into raping women via the influence of psychological controls present in video games that manipulate primal instincts... in which case, wouldn't that mean that men can be "fooled" into raping women by encouraging women to intentionally play upon those same primal instincts, and it is thus dangerously irresponsible to encourage women to do that?

Either men are in control (and thus responsible when they do bad things), or men are controllable (and thus not fully responsible when they are manipulated into doing bad things). Can't have it both ways.

Q: Who is worse? Advertisers, Psychiatrists, Lawyers or Politicians?
A: Someone who wants to be all four.

But heaven forbid Amazon take public opinion into account in reviews.

Just a quick thought, Ms. Lieberman; If playing games increases rape, why are you telling women to sleep with bad boys and then leave them?

Could it be that you are the one that is advocating this?

Awesome. I'm sure this way the world will think gamers, in general, are level-headed people. Right?

We need to go for the sorce... How could we get FOX? To bad we cant rank things in google searchs anymore.

Ironically enough, reading her book is much more likely to cause a man to act violently toward women than any videogame.

She's supposed to be a psychologist, doesn't she realise that passive aggressive manipulation is one of the things that enrage men the most?

all well and good i guess, but, does anyone accually read or care about them reviews anyways? i never have... *shrug*

Karma deserves a massive cookie for this.

Don't ask how I'll be able to give a concept a cookie, I'll find a way.

Irridium:
Reminds me of when people bombed that one woman's book on amazon after she said "I haven't played Mass Effect, but I'm sure I know what its about" or something like that. She then went on to call it a "rape simulator" among other things. Then her book was bombed with people saying "I haven't read this book, but I'm sure its about how to molest children." Or something like that.

Amazing. This is my favourite post of the day.

While it does make nerds look petty and childish, not to mention hypocritical insofar as they've also judged something whilst clearly not understanding (or having read) it, I do enjoy and appreciate this.

Awesome.

Good job internet! That will show her.

*rolls eyes*

Didn't much care for the latest "games are evil" story, especially since the claim that violent crime was on the rise, and games are to blame was easily debunked (hell, the FBI crime statistics have been publically available for over a decade, and it only now became news). However, finding out about her other work just makes it seem like she's not only stupid, but a hypocrite at that (decrying fictional violence and non-existant rape themes in a game, while promoting sexual/emotional manipulation and exploitation in the real world). This woman's doing a good job at trying to destroy the sciences (hence why she appeared on Fox News).

Lost In The Void:

Phyroxis:

Lost In The Void:
Remember kids, psychology is more than saying "I'm a psychologist," then saying your opinion is fact because you're a psychologist.

In other news Karma is a bitch

Shes a psychiatrist (med doctor first) not a psychologist. Shes trained in a totally different way.

That being said, your statement still holds true.

Well in that case most of her knowledge should lie in mental medication so what is she doing writing books that seem to be more rooted in the psychology side of mental health rather than psychiatry. That makes her seem even more dumb than she already appeared to be.

I've been looking for published empirical articles from her. So far, only one. And it has nothing to do with media.

If you're going to be an "Expert" you should probably back up your claim with credentials. A doctoral degree does not an expert make.

Well, this certainly makes one message clear:

Don't talk bullshit unless your willing to take the fire.

Karma power!

Irridium:
Reminds me of when people bombed that one woman's book on amazon after she said "I haven't played Mass Effect, but I'm sure I know what its about" or something like that. She then went on to call it a "rape simulator" among other things. Then her book was bombed with people saying "I haven't read this book, but I'm sure its about how to molest children." Or something like that.

Well in that case, she fully deserves this Amazonbombing. Also interesting is this part:"many others take issue with the concept of the book itself: that it encourages women to use sexual manipulation and deceit to get ahead in the world. I haven't read it so I can't really comment but the cover sure ain't subtle."

Irridium:
Reminds me of when people bombed that one woman's book on amazon after she said "I haven't played Mass Effect, but I'm sure I know what its about" or something like that. She then went on to call it a "rape simulator" among other things. Then her book was bombed with people saying "I haven't read this book, but I'm sure its about how to molest children." Or something like that.

Didn't she end up apologizing for her remarks? We only amazonbomb until they admit they screwed up (and might have lost money due to bad reviews).

this seems appropriate. i'd hazard a guess that this woman knows as much about video games as the average person knows about "media psychiatry". plus, i don't see how it's any different to post an uninformed and biased review of her book on amazon than her making spurious claims that video games spur rapes. personally, i think "media psychiatry" plays a large role in raping people's minds.

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