Inside the Sick Mind of a School Shooter Mod

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Inside the Sick Mind of a School Shooter Mod

Checkerboarded Studios set out to make a game in which you shoot schoolchildren for fun and succeeded only in offending everyone.

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Sounds fun, if only to give the middle finger to society.
EDIT: Now that I've actually seen the trailer...I felt sick. And I never feel sick about this stuff. I think this is wrong. And I laugh at 9\11 jokes. Maybe it's because I never knew anybody, but still this is disturbing. I can see trying to make it educational but it's doing it wrong. This is just sick.

Wow, just WOW. Why would you do this? It will allow all those 'games make you a psycho' gits to actually have something which has you playing as a realistic psycho, with realistic weapons, in a realistic setting - killing innocent people.

Guys got a point!.. But the way making it is questionable.
The subject in question lately has been one of those questions that are taboos, you simply aren't allowed to talk about them. If you star a conversation like this, you get instantly stigmatized as a sick person. I get the point why he wanted tp create something like this, hell I would defend hes right to create something like this. He has the right and it shouldn't be denied. But I think this will just give more fuel to fox and Conservative parties around the world.

Indeed this can be dangerous thing to do. But simply: He has right and means to do it. The responsibility of playing the game comes down to the player itself.

I wouldn't ban or delete this game, He has the damn right to create a game like this to tackle on the problems of the society. Or is it banned to point flaws in western civilization? Is it the 2nd Cold war again, but this time we are missing 2nd party in it.

His arguments and responses are sound but creating such a mod are just wrong. Horribly wrong.

Now I'm very liberal when it comes to subjects you can address in a game, but this is the first time I think a studio has crossed the line into what really serves no other purpose than being provocative. This is just stupid and ultimately bad for the games business.

Lordmarkus:
His arguments and responses are sound but creating such a mod are just wrong. Horribly wrong.

But he still has the right to do it. You can not deny it. He has right to reflect this subject with hes own mean and has right to publish it. Should we ban people thinking about School violence in internet blocks because they might give someone ideas.

Note: I am not defending the game, I am defending the right to create one.

Reading the interview, the dev appears to have some rather strong opinions about video games and the people who play them. Which is okay and his personal buisness.

He, however, also appears to be COMPLETLY incapable of reflection, considering other peoples viewpoints and emotions or even that he may actually be WRONG about something.

I.e. EXACTLY the type of person who could make such a game and really honestly believe that there is NOTHING wrong with it.

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SinisterGehe:

Note: I am not defending the game, I am defending the right to create one.

Oh yes, definitly, that goes without saying.

Seriously? Inside the "sick" mind of a school shooter mod? I'm guessing you're slightly biased against this guy.

I agree with most of his points. Not about why he wanted to make it, because that's just silly, but his answers to your questions. I mean, it was hilarious that people were going on about how they wanted to kill Jack Thompson and its brilliant that he sticks by his idea of what a game should be. He wants the game to be a mindless shooting game that's rude and offensive and where you kill people, and do you know what?

That is absolutely fine

More power to him. At least he's sticking by his ideals as a person, and these ideals aren't truly hurting anyone. The man gets a respect five from me.

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As a point of interest. I wonder how many of you would mind so much if it was shooting monsters for points before the big bad boss monsters killed you?

And as pointed out below, I wonder how many of you were ok with Call of Juarez but not ok with this?

So THIS is where the "games are not art" road leads? Consider me a pretentious games-are-art fag then. (Note: Yes, I have actually been called this. I'm now officially proud of it.)

Wow this kind of reminds of of "Super Columbine RPG" except that that game was made to help worth through some of the issues caused by the shooting anf made an attempt to help you understand WHY it happened. Actually the game made a lot of statements about violence in general.

This game on the other hand has no satisfactory reason to be made.

I wonder how many were ok with the new call of Juarez game, but now are questioning this one just because it hits more close to home.

I...I'm at a loss for words. I feel as though nothing I say can make this any better. No matter how many speeches, or presentations on the narrative and artistic value of games are given, there's going to be an asshole like this doing something stupid...I quit the internet.

i think you guys missed april fools day by a month. this reads like a bad joke.

its so disturbing to me, i almost cant read it. that someone would be so much without empathy that he would create a game like this and keep its tone light and game oriented is sickening to the point that i cant believe it.

weird, thats pretty much all I can say in the matter

I grudgingly admit he has a right to make what he's making. But I really don't want this mod to get any attention.

In case he didn't notice, in the Good vs Evil type of moral choice game, people inevitably pick good. People actually like feeling that they're doing something right, correct. There is none of that when you're playing as a school shooter. I'm certainly going to avoid this mod.

EHKOS:
Sounds fun, if only to give the middle finger to society.
EDIT: Now that I've actually seen the trailer...I felt sick. And I never feel sick about this stuff. I think this is wrong. And I laugh at 9\11 jokes. Maybe it's because I never knew anybody, but still this is disturbing. I can see trying to make it educational but it's doing it wrong. This is just sick.

If you read the article... he refuses to make it educational. He wants it to be brainless fun, "like Bulletstorm".

Greg Tito:
Why would any sane person make a game that so clearly crossed the line from healthy entertainment into psychosis?

...Really? I'm sorry, this is the same website that just last week had as an highlight the positive review of Bulletstorm, a game that not only allows but extensively REWARDS the most psychotic and deranged behaviour you can possibly think of? A game that shows absolutely no traces of what's socially accepted as humanity or humane behaviour, and in fact downplays said traits in favour of encouraging channelling your creativity towards the most socially maladjusted attitudes you can conceive?

This is sounding like the whole "No Russian" controversy all over again. Hell, it's not even something "never done before". The Postal series allowed you to do that and much, much more, like using cats as living silencers, or getting creative with the physics engine and dismemberment. As mentioned in the article, this very kind of behaviour was one of the main attractions of the GTA series, ostensively one of the most accomplished, awarded, and successful gaming series ever released?

Games aren't always about being deep. Sometimes it's just about fun, and whether we like to admit it or not, death and destruction are cathartic. It's an evolutionary trait. We like killing, we like destroying.

That's all this game is about. The devs never claimed it was anything else.

SinisterGehe:

Lordmarkus:
His arguments and responses are sound but creating such a mod are just wrong. Horribly wrong.

But he still has the right to do it. You can not deny it. He has right to reflect this subject with hes own mean and has right to publish it. Should we ban people thinking about School violence in internet blocks because they might give someone ideas.

Note: I am not defending the game, I am defending the right to create one.

Of course he has the right to make the game but that doesn't make the act less strange or justified

This guy comes of as a world class troll. Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you should. The minute the media gets hold of this mod they're going to have a freaking field day. Glenn Beck may well die from excitement. They don't even have to over sensationalize anything with it, it's exactly what they want. After they're done with their coverage the image of the industry may well be set back a solid 10 years.

This guy and his game are an absolute threat to the industry as a whole.

I have to admit that the interviewie at least deserves credit for sticking up for the game, because that's one thing the game industry lacks

However, the subject matter in hand is just...why?

Comparing the game to Bulletstorm upon reflection seems like a bad comparason. Yes, the game's story isn't that strong and the dialog is crude, but you're fighting humanoids who can at least fight back and intending harm upon you. The chaos is a different matter, and comes in, you could argue, self-defense, as the locals start conflict before you do (no including the attack on the Ulysses and the flashback at the begging of the game). And it also somewhat deals w/ the innocents being killed. A game where you invoke violence upon innocence meant to be a form of fun, in a form of entertainment that is fighting to be taken seriously is not only a crushing kick to the testicles, but a blatant disregard to those who are effected.

MrJKapowey:
Wow, just WOW. Why would you do this? It will allow all those 'games make you a psycho' gits to actually have something which has you playing as a realistic psycho, with realistic weapons, in a realistic setting - killing innocent people.

You have played GTA IV, haven't you? Or any of them for that matter.

I'm not defending this guy, but that's a rather loose description you're giving. Its in extremely poor taste, but you could argue that about plenty of games if you really wanted.

Holy. Shit.

This person is sick. You know why the media "overplayed" the drama of some crazy idiots murdering innocent people? You know why the shooters are made out to be monsters? Because the shooters are monsters and having innocent people--children especially--get gunned down is dramatic and sad. This guy is...words cannot describe his failure as a human being.

This just feels... wrong. Just wrong. If we are going to grow as a medium stuff like, well, like THIS must stop! I mean, if we as a gaming community consider this to be wrong, what will the conservative soccer moms that watch fox news think of it?

Not sure how to feel.

Though it reminds me of the super columbine massacre rpg

KeyMaster45:

This guy and his game are an absolute threat to the industry as a whole.

Wait what? Have you seen what games come out of flash portals 24/7? They're much worse than this. The only think that makes this stand out is it actually seems to have some production quality in it.

dogstile:
Seriously? Inside the "sick" mind of a school shooter mod? I'm guessing you're slightly biased against this guy.

I agree with most of his points. Not about why he wanted to make it, because that's just silly, but his answers to your questions. I mean, it was hilarious that people were going on about how they wanted to kill Jack Thompson and its brilliant that he sticks by his idea of what a game should be. He wants the game to be a mindless shooting game that's rude and offensive and where you kill people, and do you know what?

That is absolutely fine

More power to him. At least he's sticking by his ideals as a person, and these ideals aren't truly hurting anyone. The man gets a respect five from me.

Oh yea a game that taunts the victims of the mass murder of children is harmless, not to mention all the damage this will cause for the games industry, hes just handing ammo to those people who say video games are detestable, yea thats TOTALLY fine

I don't really care about this one. Might give the mod a try and see what happens.

Furioso:

dogstile:
Seriously? Inside the "sick" mind of a school shooter mod? I'm guessing you're slightly biased against this guy.

I agree with most of his points. Not about why he wanted to make it, because that's just silly, but his answers to your questions. I mean, it was hilarious that people were going on about how they wanted to kill Jack Thompson and its brilliant that he sticks by his idea of what a game should be. He wants the game to be a mindless shooting game that's rude and offensive and where you kill people, and do you know what?

That is absolutely fine

More power to him. At least he's sticking by his ideals as a person, and these ideals aren't truly hurting anyone. The man gets a respect five from me.

Oh yea a game that taunts the victims of the mass murder of children is harmless, not to mention all the damage this will cause for the games industry, hes just handing ammo to those people who say video games are detestable, yea thats TOTALLY fine

No, it doesn't taunt the victims. Its not like he's going up to the family's and going "hello there, here, I made this game, you should play it, its really fun!" and running off giggling.

Hell, he's not even part of the game industry. I used the same argument above. Go onto newgrounds, look at the flash portal after a major event. This happens all the time, the only reason this one is "different" is because it has some production quality.

So yes its totally fine. If he was being a prick about it and laughing in the face of every victims family it wouldn't be, but he's not. He's making a brainless shooter with a points system.

Greg Tito:
Inside the Sick Mind of a School Shooter Mod

Checkerboarded Studios set out to make a game in which you shoot schoolchildren for fun and succeeded only in offending everyone.

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You're going to have to fix that now. <dies inside>

I would say something about this guy, but I'm pretty sure that will get me suspended.

And I would say something about people defending him, but I don't want to pick fights.

All I have to say is:

I think the media tried to cover it in a way that made the events more dramatic than they actually were. Even in my younger age, I saw right through most of it. The way the news victimized the victims and overplayed the evil of the shooters disgusted me more than the actual shootings themselves.

That's a horrible point of view to take. Utterly sickening.

Woodsey:

MrJKapowey:
Wow, just WOW. Why would you do this? It will allow all those 'games make you a psycho' gits to actually have something which has you playing as a realistic psycho, with realistic weapons, in a realistic setting - killing innocent people.

You have played GTA IV, haven't you? Or any of them for that matter.

I'm not defending this guy, but that's a rather loose description you're giving. Its in extremely poor taste, but you could argue that about plenty of games if you really wanted.

Sorry, I meant 'killing innocent children'.

He kinda brings up enough of a point to keep this just under the "pure evil" line.

They don't seem to be doing this to make fun of the events or insulting the people involved. Just simply, they seem to be making it in a "why the hell not" mentality.

He brings up a really good point at the end. Something like this isn't going to cause someone to go crazy. There has to be other issues going on.

dogstile:
Seriously? Inside the "sick" mind of a school shooter mod? I'm guessing you're slightly biased against this guy.

I agree with most of his points. Not about why he wanted to make it, because that's just silly, but his answers to your questions. I mean, it was hilarious that people were going on about how they wanted to kill Jack Thompson and its brilliant that he sticks by his idea of what a game should be. He wants the game to be a mindless shooting game that's rude and offensive and where you kill people, and do you know what?

That is absolutely fine

More power to him. At least he's sticking by his ideals as a person, and these ideals aren't truly hurting anyone. The man gets a respect five from me.

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As a point of interest. I wonder how many of you would mind so much if it was shooting monsters for points before the big bad boss monsters killed you?

And as pointed out below, I wonder how many of you were ok with Call of Juarez but not ok with this?

Because if anything ever proved true in the universe it's that content is never impacted by context. Nope, never ever ever.

It's attention seeking trollery, he's the same kind of guy who would shout Nigger in a black neighbour because it's important to exercise his right to free speech. Yawn and move on.

I will never play it, mods are not my thing.

But he made some very good points regarding the industry and users as a whole.

I like the bit about gamers being worse sensationalists than the media and pulling their epeen out the second someone disagrees with their opinions. He is dead on correct with this and the one reason why I am a member of so few online communities. If I dont know you personally, I dont really care about your opinion, but I wont tell you this on a forum as it is disrespectful and rude.

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