Gay Gamers Want Dragon Age 2 Writer Fired

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I'm gonna stay away from this one. People are getting uppidy.

Honestly I wouldn't be too suprised if this is just a troll faking that he's homosexual to make them look bad and give the false impression that homosexuals are really upset about it.

A picture perfect troll if you ask me.

Gah! As a bigendred bisexual, this REALLY pisses me off. I hate hate HATE the conservitive types who hate gays, and I also hate jackasses like this that add fuel to the fire.

I hope this guy is a troll, or else I feel bad for his parents.

I don't think I ever associated Anders getting annoyed at me turning him down as a trait of a gay person, more so a trait of Anders, the guy with the Justice demon in him... The guy whose a bit of a dodge character anyway. I never took his sexuality into account.

wait you mean a gay character hates you if you don't hit on them, yeah as a straight person That annoys me. because in RPGs its important to be make allegiances so if some secrety underorld Don happens to be Gay and I have a chat, her'll get pissed off because I'm straight and send assassins to kill me.

Soylent Bacon:
The gays too? Next thing you know, there are gonna be articles about the bisexuals, asexuals, transgenders, Americans, Australians, Germans, Christians, atheists, agnostics, and Martians overreacting to this game.

There were some people on the Bioware forums complaining you couldn't romance your sister...

TwistedEllipsis:

Actual:
More importantly; ANDERS ISN'T GAY!

How did he become gay between games!? He was fiercely heterosexual in Awakenings, and don't tell me his change is due to his companion as he had no desires at all.

I wouldn't say fiercely, but he does say:

All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools."

He was also a grey warden, much more light-hearted, had ser pounce-a-lot and wasn't possessed by Justice...a lot happened since awakening...

EDIT: There seems to have been a change of writer with David Gaider as head writer, but not specifically writing for Anders (via http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anders)

David Gaider was the original writer for Anders in Awakening, but Jennifer Hepler took over the role for Dragon Age II.

So I have her to blame for ruining his character. Where did my upbeat, sarcastic bro go?

Actual:
Although Fenris was OK when you turned him down he didn't stop. No fenris I'm still not gay, fuck off. ...(ten minutes later).... Goddamnint no! I'm not gay yet!

And the fact that both Fenris' and Anders' advances come out of nowhere without any hint that you're interested in them. Who does that!? The only people I can think of are sleazebags.

More importantly; ANDERS ISN'T GAY!

How did he become gay between games!? He was fiercely heterosexual in Awakenings, and don't tell me his change is due to his companion as he had no desires at all.

There are romances in Awakening? I hated Anders in DA2. He's just so in your face.

However, I loved Fenris' character. He was great. I'm a bit sad he never flirted with me, even after I did his companion quests and whatnot.

I went with Merril... She's lovely... And that voice...

Ghostwise:
I've met and known my fair share of gay men unfortunately and everyone of them is a complete and utter hornball....much like any man. Gay women....not so much.

I'm not a

CM156:
Qwery me this, Gay Gamers: Would you prefer then there were no gay romances?
I think Anders was the only agressive one (Fenris was fine to leave me be), and that was more due to his personallity in this game, rather than his homosexuality. This only proves that Bioware fans will never be happy, no matter what you give them.

Every gay gamer I know loves the story lines in Dragon Age 2, including myself. This "gay" is probably just a hetero who is upset he was hit on in a game and wants the writer fired. Thus he erected a fake cause that has little validation to destroy what made him uncomfortable.

Azaraxzealot:

Andy Chalk:
sometimes, people are stupid.

sometimes? you're overestimating the general population. the same one that calls Transformers 2 and Alice in Wonderland the best movies ever.
and the same one that will pay people to download the firmware for their PS3s for them
and the same one that will buy the new iPhone and iPad just because everyone else is
and the same one that will ban videogames because they might hurt "little timmy"

saying "sometimes people are stupid" is an understatement regarding the human race.

we're all stupid. no one is exempt from this :/

OT: perhaps this person should realize that there are whores of all genders and orientations. and making a gay man a whore should be no less offensive than making a straight man one.

Transformers 2 was really good in my opinion.

Necromancer Jim:
Can I start a petition to allow us to slap people who start shit this stupid?

I'm with you on that one.

RedEyesBlackGamer:

TwistedEllipsis:

Actual:
More importantly; ANDERS ISN'T GAY!

How did he become gay between games!? He was fiercely heterosexual in Awakenings, and don't tell me his change is due to his companion as he had no desires at all.

I wouldn't say fiercely, but he does say:

All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools."

He was also a grey warden, much more light-hearted, had ser pounce-a-lot and wasn't possessed by Justice...a lot happened since awakening...

EDIT: There seems to have been a change of writer with David Gaider as head writer, but not specifically writing for Anders (via http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anders)

David Gaider was the original writer for Anders in Awakening, but Jennifer Hepler took over the role for Dragon Age II.

So I have her to blame for ruining his character. Where did my upbeat, sarcastic bro go?

Agreed.

At least...

didn't change. Still a sarcastic bastard.

You know what, he kinda has a point. Zevran and Anders immediately come to mind. Anders kinda forces you with a with/against scenario and Zevran, while an interesting character in several good ways, was a slurring, hedonistic pansexual whose inclusion in the game may not have been in the best taste during a time when video games are seeking recognition as a legitimate, mature art form.

You don't appreciate the stereotype, alright, but you start a petition to flat out fire him despite what he's said defending gay relationships in games. That's nice.

Ghostwise:
I REPEAT! A tranny tricked me into putting it in it's backside. PETITION!

Oh shut up. Stop being so bloody rude.

Anders in Awakening was Alistair in a dress. And I never particularly cared for Alistair to begin with.
As far as I'm concerned, Anders was a far more interesting character in DA2.

... I'm bi and I'm offended by this gay gamers claims. They didn't seem to pissed about Zev in DA:O.

He is stereotyping himself by saying "Homosexuals are like this, not like that!". People are people, and people are different, regardless of their sexuality.

Andy Chalk:
if anything, this is just more proof that people are people, regardless of their sexual proclivities - and that sometimes, people are stupid.

/supported

Seriously, that's quite a load of bullshit and frankly smells more like a troll than a legitimate complaint. Person taking a certain amount of dislike to you because they find you attractive and you blow them off? That's not normal? Is that guy for real?

Jesus guys way to take one step forward and two steps back. Seriously the gay community needs to get its act together and figure out what the hell we actually want. This guy is just painting us ALL in a negative light.

I got through the whole of the game carefuly guiding my way around the romance with Anders. Never gained a single rivalry point that way.

Now Merril, on the other hand. Christ, it was either let her move and have a relationship, or tell her to piss off and make her get angry at you. God dammit, I mean, it's not like I had sex with Isabella the night before or anything...

Hai. I'm a bicurious man. I did not feel like I was forced into a homosexual relationship. I also did not feel like the game was homophobic nor enforced homosexual stereotypes, except for the "pretty boy" Fenris. But he was just an emo Zevran with a gravely voice instead of a smooth silky.... sorry? What? Eh? Oh yes sorry.. I enjoyed the game and enjoyed immersing myself into the city and story. Why do people feel the need to raise their pitchforks over trivial matters.

I would love to see a petition of Gay gamers who *don't* think the writer should be fired.

You only hear about anger. Never enjoyment.

Idiotic action by the gamer. One only to show exactly why society hasn't moved forward very far on approaching different sexualities.

Real shame this IDIOT showed up in my opinion.

Well, you know, I personally think people are stupid.

"YOU SIR, EVEN THOUGH YOU MADE A FLESHED OUT CHARACTER, YOU SHOULD BE FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS HURT BY BEING TURNED DOWN".

Yes mr gay gamer. People don't like being turned down. It happens.

Onyx Oblivion:
Didn't Mass Effect 2 remove gay relationships? I know that ME1 had 'em.

Complain about that.

Anyway, I haven't gotten rivalry points for spurning the advances of either of them.

Technically, ME1 had no gay relationships, Asari are gender neutral, or have both, not sure, have not read the codex in a while.

Back to the point, I have not met a gay man that was not a stereotype. But that's just me. The writing in DA2 was not THAT bad, just the reusing of areas was the real big thing. And the Supplier achievement not unlocking for me despite having all the resources(not from emporium either).

I just wish people could shut up about DA2, some loved it, some hated it, same as ANY other game
Except its a big deal because its by bioware, ok then
OT: I don't think anders was a stereotypical gay, I thinks he's reading into his personality a bit. He's very flirty because thats his personality not because he is gay

Well I totally understand where he's coming from.

How can you be friends with someone if they won't suck your dick?[/sarcasm]

But seriously, I'm still having troube understanding why we need sex in games anyway.

I'm quite willing to bet that the "Homosexual Playing Dragon Age 2" is, in fact, a troll of some bred. Anyway, obviously, everyone is different and saying that an Ander's-type person doesn't exist is just silly; plus, rejecting someone isn't going to make them your friend, lets be honest. Certainly never endeared any women to me.

Irridium:
Remember those romances? How they were deep, and intricate, and you had to work for them? How it wasn't just 3 conversations, then sex.

Wait, since when was that a bad thing?

OT: This is just obscene, if you can't please one group of gamers you somehow please another and vise versa. Better to just shoot for the largest group and hope it hits the target. But what do I know, I don't work at Bioware.

Since I don't know how to use spoiler tags I'm going to have to phrase this post in very vague terms.

There is a reason why Anders pursues Hawke aggressively and it's not because he's bisexual. It's more to do with him being flawed in other ways. I don't think his efforts to get close to Hawke even have anything to do with sexual attraction, particularly considering the events in the chantry.

(Think I left that appropriately vague for people who haven't played the game.)

This guy is, in my opinion, looking for a problem where there's none to be found.

Also, is it possible that party members pursue a romantic engagement with Hawke to a different degree depending on how you play the character everywhere as well as just directly interacting with them? I must be doing something wrong 'cos on both my play-throughs only Fenris has tried and his efforts seemed half-hearted at best.

TwistedEllipsis:
I wouldn't say fiercely, but he does say:

All I want is a pretty girl, a decent meal, and the right to shoot lightning at fools."

He was also a grey warden, much more light-hearted, had ser pounce-a-lot and wasn't possessed by Justice...a lot happened since awakening...

EDIT: There seems to have been a change of writer with David Gaider as head writer, but not specifically writing for Anders (via http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anders)

David Gaider was the original writer for Anders in Awakening, but Jennifer Hepler took over the role for Dragon Age II.

There is also a humorous conversation between Anders and Oghren where Oghren claims that Anders hatred for the templars comes from being sexually molested by a male templar. Anders' response is "Ewwwwww!"

Plus I'm pretty sure that Anders hits on every female who he's put in a party with and never hits on the males, unless you count his and Orghren's beautiful bromance.

Ser-Pounce Alot was another thing that annoyed me; Anders was a hero who fought the darkspawn threat when all other Warders in the area were dead and he was also a close personal friend of the Warden Commander of the area, who the hell would be able to force him to give up the cat!? Did the First Warder issue a decree that Anders' cat needs to be taken away!?

Jaranja:

Actual:
Although Fenris was OK when you turned him down he didn't stop. No fenris I'm still not gay, fuck off. ...(ten minutes later).... Goddamnint no! I'm not gay yet!

And the fact that both Fenris' and Anders' advances come out of nowhere without any hint that you're interested in them. Who does that!? The only people I can think of are sleazebags.

More importantly; ANDERS ISN'T GAY!

How did he become gay between games!? He was fiercely heterosexual in Awakenings, and don't tell me his change is due to his companion as he had no desires at all.

There are romances in Awakening? I hated Anders in DA2. He's just so in your face.

However, I loved Fenris' character. He was great. I'm a bit sad he never flirted with me, even after I did his companion quests and whatnot.

I went with Merril... She's lovely... And that voice...

Sorry, there aren't any actual playable romances in Awakenings, that I'm aware of. See above for what I'm basing my statements on. I'm also a little it in love with Merril, but she is also the only choice for a male hetero character. Isabella is just foul, and I'm not sure you can come between Aveline and her crush, even if I wanted to.

If they were "disrespectfully stereotyping homosexuals", then the game wouldn't have Anders go into a rage with those glowy eyes...Instead, he'd yell "FAAAABULOUS!" and throw a handful of glitter in a templar's face.

...Actually, I'd like to see that.

Someone needs to learn to use the conversation wheel. Half-wheel. Maybe if he wasn't too busy filing petitions...

glad i live by stupid until you can prove otherwise sadly too many prove they are stupid.

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