Gay Gamers Want Dragon Age 2 Writer Fired

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So, like another site suggested, I'm gonna throw this out there and suggest that this petition was started for trolling sake. because implying that Gaider is depicting gays as 'love obsessed people who are harshly hurt by the spurn of their advances' is just pure, absolute bullshit of the highest echelon.

I mean come the FUCK on guys, is there really ANYONE here who denied Anders advances and saw the drop in friendship as an attack on teh gaze? I mean if anything, all it shows is that Anders is a codependent whiny bitch if anything. And based on his constant back and forth about wanting someone in or out of his life supporting him is really annoying. Again, it has nothing to do with Anders being bisexual, IT'S BECAUSE ANDERS IS FUCKED UP, BOTH EMOTIONALLY AND BECAUSE HE HAS A SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE DWELLING IN HIS BODY.

I don't like how Twisted Metal portrayed Sweet Tooth (a single, presumably-straight white male) as being a psychotic serial killer. It's a totally unrealistic depiction of the straight man and David Jaffe should be fired and thrown in prison for creating an exaggerated character with a few basic, all-encompassing traits in common with me.

Putting this argument into perspective, it would be like directors of almost every romantic comedy to come out in the last 5 years getting fired for including a "sassy gay friend" in a movie. People are really just overly sensitive to the way they think others perceive them. And honestly, if this were not a homosexual issue, it would not be an issue at all. Imagine if people has complained about the heterosexuality of say Duke Nukem, it would have been dismissed as stupidity. If the gay community wants equality, then they have to stop bitching about the small things, like this, and learn to take a joke like the rest of the world.

Some people shouldn't be trusted with a computer... I mean honestly Bioware is perhaps one the most sexually progressive development studios out there... words fail me... so this will have to do.

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Ghostwise:
I've met and known my fair share of gay men unfortunately and everyone of them is a complete and utter hornball....much like any man. Gay women....not so much.

Win. I would totally play this. Modders, go forth and do! With complete voice acting. Good voice acting would be good, but bad voice acting may be better.

Man, what a fag.

HEYO!

But seriously, Anders has flirted with my char but no romance (I even tried to get him to romance at one point with no luck, in a separate save) and he's full on friendly with my Hawke so... poopoo to you, gaygamer.

Kyogissun:
So, like another site suggested, I'm gonna throw this out there and suggest that this petition was started for trolling sake. because implying that Gaider is depicting gays as 'love obsessed people who are harshly hurt by the spurn of their advances' is just pure, absolute bullshit of the highest echelon.

I mean come the FUCK on guys, is there really ANYONE here who denied Anders advances and saw the drop in friendship as an attack on teh gaze? I mean if anything, all it shows is that Anders is a codependent whiny bitch if anything. And based on his constant back and forth about wanting someone in or out of his life supporting him is really annoying. Again, it has nothing to do with Anders being bisexual, IT'S BECAUSE ANDERS IS FUCKED UP, BOTH EMOTIONALLY AND BECAUSE HE HAS A SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE DWELLING IN HIS BODY.

If Anders couldn't cast healing spells he'd be out of my party so fast it's not funny. He's a right dick at times, just some of the chatter he has with other party members proves it. Not to mention his passive aggressive "free the mages" bullshit.

That's part of his character though, and it what matters him more realistic, because hello in the real world some people are dicks that we keep around because they are useful.

It seems to be suggested that in case of this person being actually offended, that's OK and we should listen, but I feel it worth ignoring either way. It doesn't seem like this guy liked the game at all, let alone the gay relationships. Maybe he was just so incensed about the relationship bit that it coloured the rest of his opinions, but he clearly isn't interested in conversation when he's already trying to get a man he barely knows fired from his job. I'm expected to consider this? Ridiculous.

Do I think they did a good job with the gay romances in DA2? Not really... but that's to be expected when having the option to be homosexual in games is so very new. I'm not sure writers know how to keep their own stereotypes out of it. Besides, the game is littered with problems from start to finish. While this particular example could be seen as damaging to gay image, that doesn't hold water when the sheer amount of ways they tried to be all-inclusive and respectful come to light. The fact that they tried, whether or not they failed, will still encourage other smaller developers to try having gay characters.

So, if a gay man isn't portrayed like a F*ing Saint, its offensive. Everyone has flaws. Its what makes us human. Gay people and straight people alike.

hazabaza1:

RedEyesBlackGamer:
Fenris never pulled that. Anders certainly did, though. Anders was pretty aggressive.

True. Though the only reason he did was because of Hawke's wording.

But yeah, this is derp. And what about the lesbian stuff? I'm pretty sure Merrill wouldn't have ago for not wanting lesbian sex with her.

...though I'm pretty sure nobody has refused that.

I turned Merrill down, and she was quite gracious about it. In that twittering, nervous way of hers. She's so adorable.

How's this for a headline?

"Gay and straight gamers alike outraged at the romance options in DA2, gamers with good taste don't care about DA2 at all"

TBH I dont like how Bioware deals with homosexuals in their games. They just add the homo element over some existing characters and makes a big deal out of it. "Look look! We have a minor group member!". Theres really no reason to brag about that. And then the homos just play out as the necessary black guys. Mass Effect 3 will probably feature mexican and ladyboy as a pickable love interest.

Not that Im phobic or anything, but I already have to deal with this with some generic TV shows. Theres the black guy. Say hello to the new indian flavor. Aaand theres the asian. Now, which one of you is the gay?

Same thing with women space-marines. And that does not include Samus. Because Samus is special. Because shes a woman.

I know that you're really into showing this melting pot of cultures and your ability to accept people, but you need to stop hitting the football with ice hockey bat. The message starts loosing its sense if you keep pushing it on to my face like that.

So... Basically something in an insignificant game that has no real effect on them offends them, so they want to have someone lose their job and income for his family?

Like people said before Anders is clingy if you play male OR female. Your gender doesn't matter he wants to almost jump you the second you 2 meet.

If irony were an olympic competition, this guy would get a 10.

"Not all gay people act like this. Individuals do not have to conform to stereotypes. Therefore, I object to this INDIVIDUAL character."

I mean come on, even as its admitted that not all homosexuals are obsessive, constantly horny motherfuckers, can't we also allow that some homosexuals are? Not only that, but its an interesting character trait, makes the game funner. Give me a story full of rounded and well adjusted characters and I'll give you a boring story.

Susan Arendt:

hazabaza1:

RedEyesBlackGamer:
Fenris never pulled that. Anders certainly did, though. Anders was pretty aggressive.

True. Though the only reason he did was because of Hawke's wording.

But yeah, this is derp. And what about the lesbian stuff? I'm pretty sure Merrill wouldn't have ago for not wanting lesbian sex with her.

...though I'm pretty sure nobody has refused that.

I turned Merrill down, and she was quite gracious about it. In that twittering, nervous way of hers. She's so adorable.

Quick question, does she initiate anything if you don't? I know that you pretty much have to deny Anders, but with Merrill it seemed you could just... ignore her.

The writing in was offensively bad, but certainly not offensive to gays. I mean those characters weren't even gay, they would sleep with the Player no matter their gender. (In what I assume was an attempt to make the game politically correct.)

I hope that guy does get fired though, just because he is not good at writing.

Azaraxzealot:

Andy Chalk:
sometimes, people are stupid.

sometimes? you're overestimating the general population. the same one that calls Transformers 2 and Alice in Wonderland the best movies ever.
and the same one that will pay people to download the firmware for their PS3s for them
and the same one that will buy the new iPhone and iPad just because everyone else is
and the same one that will ban videogames because they might hurt "little timmy"

saying "sometimes people are stupid" is an understatement regarding the human race.

we're all stupid. no one is exempt from this :/

OT: perhaps this person should realize that there are whores of all genders and orientations. and making a gay man a whore should be no less offensive than making a straight man one.

You forgot to add in the ones who think Twilight is amazing... ugh

He's stereotyping in the manner of gay people being gay?

My head hurts.

Gaider's response to this moron should be:

"Alright fine, we'll just leave out homosexuality completely in the next game. How do ya like them apples?"

Mass Effect 2 did just fine. One less thing to complain about.

I resent the tone of the article. I mean if you're writing an article about something, at least TRY to act like what you are writing about is important or thought provoking, or keep your opinion away. If you can't do that, don't write it. Nobody will mind. But what you did is mock the very thing you were writing about, and didn't give it a second thought. And this is actually something thats happened multiple times in the last few days on the site. Get it together, guys.

On the subject, yes i think Biowares portrayal of homosexuality is superficial and its missing from Mass Effect for the wrong reasons, which doesn't give me the impression that they have the right attitude towards it. But i find it hard to agree with the petition because i kinda am a mess that would always like to talk about sex...

IronicBeet:
How's this for a headline?

"Gay and straight gamers alike outraged at the romance options in DA2, gamers with good taste don't care about DA2 at all"

Is there 'anything' you can bring to the table besides tired and repetitive commentary we've heard about this game weeks ago? Or are you just trying really hard to seem cool like the rest of the people needlessly hating on a somewhat flawed but otherwise entirely playable and fun game?

Andy Chalk:

"As a homosexual playing Dragon Age 2, I've witnessed the worst stereotype homosexual characters in this game. If you refused to make your moves on a gay character then you are received rivalry points for not wanting to be gay for the character," the petition states. "This is completely wrong, homosexuals do not approach people and force them to kiss us, the person that wrote this game should be fired for stereotyping homosexuals in such a disrespectful way, as well as creating the worst writing in characters, plot and everything else in DA2."

Now, mind you, everything I said pertains to IF DA2 actually has characters act as described by the individual quoted above. If the game's homosexual characters actually are written realistically and don't get uppity when you say you prefer women, and you'd like to be buddies, then the folk in question are indeed being stupid. Likewise the female leads should be just as well represented. And also you need more than one homosexual character that acts as described, because one angry gay character does not represent all of them.

P.S. Just because someone doesn't want to be constantly hit on by the same sex in a game doesn't mean they're homophobic. One character doing so is okay, because that's life, but more than that is just odd and uncomfortable. Same goes for if you're partial to the same sex and the opposite sex keeps clawing at your pants. It's just awkward, like some sort of twisted Albion thing where everybody wants to keep you in their basement. *shudders* The best way to fix this is to make an option where you tell them off the bat you're not into that or that you already have someone in mind, and they immediately understand. One of them can get stuffy, since, again, that's life, but not all of them. DA2 would be dog crap if EVERY gay character wanted to bone you and acted badly. And it would be WORSE if the female cast all did the same. These two cases I doubt highly, since no one can be that ignorant.
...Then again, they did say Call of Duty was an RPG...

Kyogissun:

IronicBeet:
How's this for a headline?

"Gay and straight gamers alike outraged at the romance options in DA2, gamers with good taste don't care about DA2 at all"

Is there 'anything' you can bring to the table besides tired and repetitive commentary we've heard about this game weeks ago? Or are you just trying really hard to seem cool like the rest of the people needlessly hating on a somewhat flawed but otherwise entirely playable and fun game?

I'm sorry, I just still haven't gotten over how Bioware released something that wasn't Dragon Age 2 and called it "Dragon Age 2".

I wonder if anyone complained about Bleach like this.

Troll Hard 2: Troll Harder

Don't give this troll the undeserved attention they crave, this is an idiotic and baseless complaint deliberately worded to be inflammatory and trollish.

My character said no, and moved on with his murderous rampage.

To want a writer fired is a bit much. There are stages of writing, and in the end they don't have the final say if it gets in the game.

Put bluntly: get over it. You think the company is going to fire one of their best writers because you took personal offense to something he said?

Go cry me a fucking river, seriously. How childish can you get?

Well this is equality in action, gay people have the right to be whinging annoying morons if they want...

A podcast I listen to put it this way: Fuck it, we cant make anyone fucking happy, so everyone's bi. Fuck your mom, fuck your sister, I don't give a fuck, just shut the fuck up.

Paraphrased for effect and context, of course.

I don't really think the writer(s) meant to portay a stereotypical image of homosexuals. Rather I belive the fault lies in a rushed game and poorly written character-convorsations (and characters) compared to the bar of quality characters usually have in bioware-games.

Bigger controversy: Internet petition makes news of any scale.

hazabaza1:

Susan Arendt:

hazabaza1:

True. Though the only reason he did was because of Hawke's wording.

But yeah, this is derp. And what about the lesbian stuff? I'm pretty sure Merrill wouldn't have ago for not wanting lesbian sex with her.

...though I'm pretty sure nobody has refused that.

I turned Merrill down, and she was quite gracious about it. In that twittering, nervous way of hers. She's so adorable.

Quick question, does she initiate anything if you don't? I know that you pretty much have to deny Anders, but with Merrill it seemed you could just... ignore her.

Well, I flirted with her twice, I think, then she showed up at my house to be all rawr with me. I said I thought of her as a sister, she mumbled something and fled. It was really rather sweet.

Uhh... correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't every romantic interest a bisexual in this game? I havn't played played the game myself yet.

OT: Well he did state in his defense against the straight gamer that he can't make everyone happy, this just proves him right. BTW 208 votes vs. how many copies of the game sold? This seems a bit one sided to me...

I always noticed that most people rarely mention something they like, but constantly mention the things they don't like.

Personally I always think that if you dislike (object name) so much to complain publicly that you should avoid it, not keep using (object name) while bitching about it. If he doesn't like the damn thing why doesn't he make a better game then?

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