Computer Built in Minecraft Has RAM, Performs Division

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Wow, that's really cool. Congratulations Salaja!

My reaction to all of the things like this being built can be summed up in the top comment on the youtube page:

"i built a little house and a bridge, YOU BUILT A CPU?!!??!1"

To play a game on that CPU, you would need a program. I'm not sure if you can build a program out of rocks. Or can you? Prob not

And thus Skynet was born.

the_green_dragon:
To play a game on that CPU, you would need a program. I'm not sure if you can build a program out of rocks. Or can you? Prob not

He already made it programmable. You can see him putting code in in one of the videos.

I know not the words to accuratly discribe my thoughts at this time.

This has been done in Garry's mod, so essentially it's not /new/:)

That is awesome. I remember the old computer that was put on here a while back, and I remember it ran painfully slow. This fellow here really had a stroke of genius when he decided to build vertically.

I really don't know much about computer workings, but this is still really impressive. Even from a purely aesthetic standpoint, this is a thing of beauty.

Speaking as someone who has no idea what he was saying, most of the way through the explaination I was like...

"Stop talking and make it do maths, dammit!"

I don't care if it's less effiecient than the real first computers; this, sir, is

BLOODY AMAZING!

Wait, this has been don before. Whats the differance between this and that one made out of dirt blocks that streches into the horizon?

Congratulations, you have just divided by zero. For performing this amazing feat, the universal sub-conscious will now reset existence on the date of 12/21/12. The universal sub-conscious simply cannot wait to see how long it take the next cycle to figure it out! LOL.

Inception this shit, I want a computer inside a computer inside a computer!

Also I'm a bit worried we're going to start playing God and we'll create sentient life inside this computer, it'll realise it's not real and try and escape and then when it does...MY GOD.

Woah, that computer is so huge that I think...

*Puts on Sunlasses*

Minecraft is in the STONE age of computers!

Why? Why is this being done? Do you have any idea how impractical a computer like this is? Its running in units measures in seconds when normal computers run in units measured in milliseconds! All you guys wanted to play "minecraft in minecraft" do you know how long it would take for the system to render even a single screen? It would take months to simply boot up the game. Ah god, ah this is so stupid.

I respect guys who are so determines to do this but this is doing something for the sake of doing it and has no practical application. God, when all you have is a hammer needs to be replace with when all you have is Minecraft. There are better ways to build some things you know people. Lets not turn Minecraft into our all purpose build engine when we have other avenues. God, Minecraft is turning into a singularity. Easy to build != practical or the right way to do it. Ah, this is giving me a headache.

I feel this is only the beginning. Soon, they will reach the limit of complecation. Then, they shall become smaller and smaller.

Of course, by this time in the real world, computers will be inplanted in your brains.

Captain Bobbossa:
Wait, this has been don before. Whats the differance between this and that one made out of dirt blocks that streches into the horizon?

That one did calculations.

This one does calculations, stores the result, and does other calculations based on them.

Computer bugs in minecraft are actually called computer chickens.

Hes probably building an Anti-virus program to eliminate creepers.

Mine-Tron

Jabberwock xeno:
How the hell does this work?

Can you make a computer out of rocks or something then?

Sort of. A computer is built upon the concept of the Turing Machine. To water down a lot of details, basically one creates an electrical circuit who's properties change depending upon an input. The "rules" of the system, as in the fundamental rule that governs the operation of a computer is that a given segment can either operate as a wire (it lets current flow) or as a block (it greatly resists electrical flow). Using transistors (tiny devices that can be altered to allow current flow or resist it based upon an input current) one can construct very simple devices that allow for certain fundamental operations. For example AND (if you have current in one line AND current in another line you output current. Otherwise you do not) and OR (if you have current in one line OR another line or even both you output current).

These relatively simple devices are called Turing machines. If one combines large numbers of Turing machines they can do more complex tasks like add a pair of numbers or store information for later retrieval. Once complete, such a system of Turing machines becomes itself, a universal Turing machine. Simply put, given sufficient access to memory and given sufficient time anything that can be computed can be computed by a universal Turing machine.

Now, because a Turing machine is little more than a device that reads an input and produces an output according to a table of rules, it can take an enormous number of forms. In the simplest form, a person could themselves follow a very simple table of rules to produce such an output and act, themselves, as a Turing machine.

A computer within a computer?

...We need to go deeper.

oh shit, I guess Terminator the TV series was right. April 21 Skynet is supposed to become self aware...I think this is a step in that direction

It's only a small step before someone grabs zombies and makes Deep Rot (http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/12936417/).

See, I already got something like this, only it's a lot smaller, and a lot more usable.

On behalf of all comp-sci majors everywhere... this is not hard, this is not brilliant, this is not even impressive. Creating a CPU within any system that allows for basic logic simulation is nothing special. You'd do it in 200-level courses as part of any comp-sci degree.

The fact that he did it in Minecraft is no more or less noteworthy than any other massive timesink project done in Minecraft. This project is no more special than, say, a giant penis or a scale model of the Enterprise.

Strixvaliano:
How long until the computers inside Minecraft become self-aware and begin harvesting farm animals for energy?

lol

This video just strengthens my belief that Minecraft is the greatest sandbox game ever conceived.
I would not be surprised if AI is accidentally generated in a Minecraft game.

Torrasque:

This video just strengthens my belief that Minecraft is the greatest sandbox game ever conceived.
I would not be surprised if AI is accidentally generated in a Minecraft game.

I can't disagree with that at all. Neither can any of my friends who I've introduced to it as well.

Ever since seeing these videos it makes me wonder if Minecraft will reach a point where the technology developed inside of it will begin to advance at a rate similar to our real life tech. Intentional or not on the part of Notch, it just goes to show how much ingenuity people really have with simplistic and limited resources at their disposal.

Either way it should be bloody interesting to see how far people take the ball and run with it.

What a grand waste of time.
Why didn't he just buy a kit from an electronics shop and make one for real? What has this proven? What has the point of it been?
Too many people have too much spare time and throw it away at ludicrous ideas.

nezroy:
On behalf of all comp-sci majors everywhere... this is not hard, this is not brilliant, this is not even impressive. Creating a CPU within any system that allows for basic logic simulation is nothing special. You'd do it in 200-level courses as part of any comp-sci degree.

The fact that he did it in Minecraft is no more or less noteworthy than any other massive timesink project done in Minecraft. This project is no more special than, say, a giant penis or a scale model of the Enterprise.

Thank god, the internet isn't devoid of reason.
You sir are 100% correct.

Torrasque:

Strixvaliano:
How long until the computers inside Minecraft become self-aware and begin harvesting farm animals for energy?

lol

This video just strengthens my belief that Minecraft is the greatest sandbox game ever conceived.
I would not be surprised if AI is accidentally generated in a Minecraft game.

....The video is not impressive, just a complete waste of time as it proves nothing.
And to say AI could be invented shows you do not understand in anyway how neural networks work.

Strixvaliano:

Torrasque:

This video just strengthens my belief that Minecraft is the greatest sandbox game ever conceived.
I would not be surprised if AI is accidentally generated in a Minecraft game.

I can't disagree with that at all. Neither can any of my friends who I've introduced to it as well.

Ever since seeing these videos it makes me wonder if Minecraft will reach a point where the technology developed inside of it will begin to advance at a rate similar to our real life tech. Intentional or not on the part of Notch, it just goes to show how much ingenuity people really have with simplistic and limited resources at their disposal.

Either way it should be bloody interesting to see how far people take the ball and run with it.

No. It will not.
Working with actual AI there is no chance in hell that Minecraft will ever take over, or even come close to modern day technology.
You can't make a virtual 3.5ghz cpu on a 2ghz machine - computing doesn't work like that. What you simply are doing is making, probably a 1khz CPU (if that) on a processor that can run 1000's of times faster.

Averant:
My God... A computer within a computer? That's... I don't even know. Ingenious? Insane? Will we make the matrix INSIDE the matrix? XD

This ^^ combined with inception anything passed this and it's too far

Mazty:

Torrasque:

Strixvaliano:
How long until the computers inside Minecraft become self-aware and begin harvesting farm animals for energy?

lol

This video just strengthens my belief that Minecraft is the greatest sandbox game ever conceived.
I would not be surprised if AI is accidentally generated in a Minecraft game.

....The video is not impressive, just a complete waste of time as it proves nothing.
And to say AI could be invented shows you do not understand in anyway how neural networks work.

Sarcasm is hard.
And if you're going to say that is a waste of time, then technically speaking, every single video game ever, is a waste of time.

Torrasque:

Mazty:

Torrasque:
lol

This video just strengthens my belief that Minecraft is the greatest sandbox game ever conceived.
I would not be surprised if AI is accidentally generated in a Minecraft game.

....The video is not impressive, just a complete waste of time as it proves nothing.
And to say AI could be invented shows you do not understand in anyway how neural networks work.

Sarcasm is hard.
And if you're going to say that is a waste of time, then technically speaking, every single video game ever, is a waste of time.

I'm not being sarcastic.
It would be a complete waste of time to even try to make a NN in Minecraft. It would take thousands of hours to make and the speed would make it so that running it (presuming we are going for a backwards propogation network) would take probably years.
Play an FPS to improve your skill at it. All this proves is the guy can follow basic instuctions. I could train a monkey to do it, but you can't train a monkey to win Gran Turismo etc.

Mazty:

Torrasque:

Mazty:

....The video is not impressive, just a complete waste of time as it proves nothing.
And to say AI could be invented shows you do not understand in anyway how neural networks work.

Sarcasm is hard.
And if you're going to say that is a waste of time, then technically speaking, every single video game ever, is a waste of time.

I'm not being sarcastic.
It would be a complete waste of time to even try to make a NN in Minecraft. It would take thousands of hours to make and the speed would make it so that running it (presuming we are going for a backwards propogation network) would take probably years.
Play an FPS to improve your skill at it. All this proves is the guy can follow basic instuctions. I could train a monkey to do it, but you can't train a monkey to win Gran Turismo etc.

I was being sarcastic in my comment. Obviously AI won't be stumbled upon in Minecraft, but it'd be funny if it was. Hence: sarcasm.
This guy made a computer in Minecraft just to prove that he could, and probably because he felt like it. Its like the guy that made the Starship Enterprise. Does that accomplish anything? Of course not, but its fun and cool.
And judging by what he has said, he didn't really follow that many instructions because alot of his computer is unique and uncommon.
I'd say making a computer in Minecraft (even if it is just "following basic instructions") is much more difficult than Gran Turismo. Driving games are easy shit.

Torrasque:

Mazty:

Torrasque:
Sarcasm is hard.
And if you're going to say that is a waste of time, then technically speaking, every single video game ever, is a waste of time.

I'm not being sarcastic.
It would be a complete waste of time to even try to make a NN in Minecraft. It would take thousands of hours to make and the speed would make it so that running it (presuming we are going for a backwards propogation network) would take probably years.
Play an FPS to improve your skill at it. All this proves is the guy can follow basic instuctions. I could train a monkey to do it, but you can't train a monkey to win Gran Turismo etc.

I was being sarcastic in my comment. Obviously AI won't be stumbled upon in Minecraft, but it'd be funny if it was. Hence: sarcasm.
This guy made a computer in Minecraft just to prove that he could, and probably because he felt like it. Its like the guy that made the Starship Enterprise. Does that accomplish anything? Of course not, but its fun and cool.
And judging by what he has said, he didn't really follow that many instructions because alot of his computer is unique and uncommon.
I'd say making a computer in Minecraft (even if it is just "following basic instructions") is much more difficult than Gran Turismo. Driving games are easy shit.

...You can't stumble upon AI...That's not how it works...
Why is it fun? It's mindless repetition.
Why is it cool? It obviously can be done and merely requires a rediculous amount of time. If you think it's cool then clearly you must thing digging 1 billion 15cm holes is cool as it is the same - mindless repetition.
What he did is extremely simplitic in terms of electronics. It is far, far simplier than you give it credit for. And saying driving games are "easy as shit" shows you clearly have played very, very few.

Mazty:

Torrasque:

Mazty:

I'm not being sarcastic.
It would be a complete waste of time to even try to make a NN in Minecraft. It would take thousands of hours to make and the speed would make it so that running it (presuming we are going for a backwards propogation network) would take probably years.
Play an FPS to improve your skill at it. All this proves is the guy can follow basic instuctions. I could train a monkey to do it, but you can't train a monkey to win Gran Turismo etc.

I was being sarcastic in my comment. Obviously AI won't be stumbled upon in Minecraft, but it'd be funny if it was. Hence: sarcasm.
This guy made a computer in Minecraft just to prove that he could, and probably because he felt like it. Its like the guy that made the Starship Enterprise. Does that accomplish anything? Of course not, but its fun and cool.
And judging by what he has said, he didn't really follow that many instructions because alot of his computer is unique and uncommon.
I'd say making a computer in Minecraft (even if it is just "following basic instructions") is much more difficult than Gran Turismo. Driving games are easy shit.

...You can't stumble upon AI...That's not how it works...
Why is it fun? It's mindless repetition.
Why is it cool? It obviously can be done and merely requires a rediculous amount of time. If you think it's cool then clearly you must thing digging 1 billion 15cm holes is cool as it is the same - mindless repetition.
What he did is extremely simplitic in terms of electronics. It is far, far simplier than you give it credit for. And saying driving games are "easy as shit" shows you clearly have played very, very few.

lol, you're still missing my point, so I'll say this as simple as I can.
AI is hard to get.
It won't be obtained in Minecraft.
It would be humorous if it was obtained in Minecraft.
Hope that makes sense.

Minecraft is fun because its a limitless sandbox game that only has 1 limitation: your imagination. If you don't enjoy it, then its not the game's fault.
Of course its simple in electronic terms, its a fucking video game. I think its cool that he made it despite his simple tools and materials, just like I'd be impressed at a man making a computer out of a few chunks of wood and some dead squirrels.

How to play a driving game:
Gas is here, turn is here, e-brake is there.
Get comfortable with how to drift, get familiar with levels.
Voila. Driving game mastery 101.

*so you don't miss my point again*
That was not sarcasm.
I am not saying driving games are hard.
I am saying driving games are easy.

Jabberwock xeno:
How the hell does this work?

Can you make a computer out of rocks or something then?

Code is merely instructions on how to do something, which can be "run" on any machine that is capable of understanding the code, including a machine that consists entirely of a guy moving rocks :)

You can find the comic here
http://xkcd.com/505/

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