Anonymous on PSN Outage: "For Once We Didn't Do It"

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Anonymous on PSN Outage: "For Once We Didn't Do It"

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Online "hacktivist" group Anonymous has denied any coordinated involvement in the collapse of the PlayStation Network.

Yesterday - or slightly before yesterday, to be precise - Sony's PlayStation Network went belly-up, with gamers around the world unable to play games like Portal 2, SOCOM 4 or Mortal Kombat online using their PS3s. The outage is predicted to continue for a day or more, and Sony EU PSN manager James Gallagher suggested that an attack by outsiders - such as the shadowy loose internet coalition Anonymous.

While this wouldn't be the first time Anonymous had gone after Sony for its involvement in the trials of George "GeoHot" Hotz and other PS3 jailbreakers, this time it says Sony is pointing the fingers in the wrong direction.

"While it could be the case that other Anons are acting by themselves," reads a statement on the Anonymous news site, "AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened."

An alternate possibility, suggests the statement, is that Sony is using Anonymous' previous attacks as a scapegoat "to distract users from the fact that the outage is actually an internal problem with the company's servers."

However, this would seem to contradict a post on the Anonymous Facebook page, which reads: "Take a break from online gaming for a while ... it will help your skills, your health, and your emotional levels, which by the way are a bit out of order if they are being shackled by the PSN being down. We have no qualms about our actions, even though it may affect fellow anonymous or supporters ... we hope they understand the bigger picture."

Of course, another explanation is that both statements could be correct. The problem with (and some would argue, greatest strength of) Anonymous is that it is not a singular entity, but a loosely affiliated group of hundreds and thousands of others all behind a veil of anonymity. While the coordinated AnonOps branch may have nothing to do with this, other Anons may have decided to act on their own - though one would think it would have to be a powerful attack indeed to cripple PSN this badly.

Or it could just be that the hamsters powering the Sony servers all died. There's that, too.

(Thanks to tghm1801 for the tip!)

(Mashable)

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The group that's calling themselves AnonOps are the splinter. Anon has no formal organization or goals. I'm really sick of "Anon" putting out statements saying they didn't do stuff. It's ridiculous.

John Funk:
Or it could just be that the hamsters powering the Sony servers all died. There's that, too.

I bet they were buried... Anonymously

So it could be a splinter group responsible.

Though im still mostly for Sony screwing themselves somehow.

It's somebodys fault! I'm not beating Portal 2 offline. I need my simultaneous Steam achievements. I'd play my PC copy, but I need my trophies, too. Back to Majin, then.

John Funk:

Or it could just be that the hamsters powering the Sony servers all died. There's that, too.

This group of hackers has never given us reason NOT to take their word for it.
And I'm actually not being sarcastic.

On the other hand, Sony has given us plenty reason to think that they can't keep their shit together. That leap year fiasco (finally looked it up) WAS only a year ago. I guess we're due for their next great screwup.

Except for the other time they didn't do it with the WBC

Tbh agreed that it looks like Sony just jumping on the opportunity to blame someone else for their own failure. As you've said yourself Funk, you'd need something pretty nasty to take down the entire bloody network, even more so for it to take entire days to fix. Without coordination, I doubt that's the case and if it is, that kinda just makes things worse for Sony as it shows how utterly incompetent they are to have an individual/minor group capable of doing that much damage to them.

gigastar:
So it could be a splinter group responsible.

Probably a rogue cell >.>

OT: Well they did say they didn't want to ruin things for customers just to get back at sony...so they might be telling truth...or just lying through their teeth...both could be true.

I'm guessing it's just some internal problem. There hasn't been a firmware update in a while though... so who knows?
Either way i'm not to worried it's not like i'm wasting money by not having PSN.

Krakyn:
The group that's calling themselves AnonOps are the splinter. Anon has no formal organization or goals. I'm really sick of "Anon" putting out statements saying they didn't do stuff. It's ridiculous.

Rules 1 and 2 baby.

I miss the good old days.

John Funk:

Or it could just be that the hamsters powering the Sony servers all died. There's that, too.

I'm going with this. Anon news is getting so old now, give the hamsters their credit already!

I still think it's this cross compatibility with steam.

The timing seems to perfect for it not be.

I think the two networks are clashing and PSN is down because of it.

At least Al-Qaedi has rudimentary control over IT'S Agents, even if that is through spiritual manipulation.... Still something.

Sony never actually said it was anon, they said it could possibly be a third party. People aren't reading things properly it seems...

Onyx Oblivion:
It's somebodys fault! I'm not beating Portal 2 offline. I need my simultaneous Steam achievements. I'd play my PC copy, but I need my trophies, too. Back to Majin, then.

So games are only worth playing for imaginary points nowadays? I'm saddened...

therandombear:

gigastar:
So it could be a splinter group responsible.

Probably a rogue cell >.>

Dare I say, a SPLINTER CELL?? /troll face

OT: Its most likely a rogue cell of Anon. Think about it, now that the lawsuit is over, there is no risk of hurting GeoHot's image with attacks.

This sounds like a good movie... Anon and Sony teaming up to take down the cell.

Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon:
Sony never actually said it was anon, they said it could possibly be a third party. People aren't reading things properly it seems...

Exactly! I don't think Sony would even WANT to pin it anon since the idea that a small group could bring down their entire network is a lot scarier than the thought that combining two major gaming networks with issues of their own might cause some bugs. You have to consider what would hurt sony's image more.

Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon:
Sony never actually said it was anon, they said it could possibly be a third party. People aren't reading things properly it seems...

Yep. This is the internet after all. If someone suggests that it might be a third party, then that's confirmation that anon did it regardless of what the actual statement said.

Personally, I'm voting for the problem being internal. This is Sony, the company that, among many other fuckups, couldn't program a calendar that properly handles leap years.

Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon:
Sony never actually said it was anon, they said it could possibly be a third party. People aren't reading things properly it seems...

Yeah, this. Not once did Sony say it was Anon.

Anyway, I don't think it's Anon, not even a 'rogue cell'. Most likely an internal error. And by internal error I mean a massive fuck up by Sony.

They're lying. Simple as that.

Many anonymous people who were supporting Geohot admitted to pirating games and hacking online games with cheats. They're not trustworthy.

Sorry guys. You mess with Sony once, you're forever branded as criminals.

Wait a second... did Sony actually blame Anonymous or did we make that up? (I know I made it up)

If I remember right (and I don't), Sony shut down for humanitarian reasons: saving power, reducing loads, aiding in rebuilding after the earthquakes and tsunamis, etc.. Cyber-terrorism never entered into the equation.

...or that's just what they WANT us to think... *dramatic music!*

heh.

John Funk:

Or it could just be that the hamsters powering the Sony servers all died. There's that, too.

Actually, we just received an official message from the Sony HQ.

I dont buy it. Theres a lot of people in annonymous. Obviously they must all have different agendas.

It was either sony or sony's hamsters, no doubt.

GonzoGamer:

John Funk:

Or it could just be that the hamsters powering the Sony servers all died. There's that, too.

This group of hackers has never given us reason NOT to take their word for it.
And I'm actually not being sarcastic.

On the other hand, Sony has given us plenty reason to think that they can't keep their shit together. That leap year fiasco (finally looked it up) WAS only a year ago. I guess we're due for their next great screwup.

They are a group of hackers playing bully on the internet doing extremely illegal things. Nobody's private information is safe to them. Why should we EVER take their word for it?

It is not Anonymous. When any group like that announces that they will not perform any attacks for a while then there remains a possibility that splinter groups or single agents will take it upon themselves to continue with attacks. Those attacks will usually be overly ambitious and unsuccessful or relatively minor and successful.

For a big outage like this then the possibility are:

1. An individual or small group carried out an attack. Should have been stopped - Sony's fault.
2. An unexpected event. Should have been predicted - Sony's fault.

Besides which they annoyed Anonymous in the first place with their silly and heavy handed behaviour towards Hotz and others. Even then if they had been more careful/competent with security then Hotz would not have been able to jailbreak the PS3. The fact that they were so determined to stop homebrews in the first place is controversial, which was Hotz's motivation in the first place.

All this aside the communication between Sony and PS3 users has been almost non-existent. They have thousands of employees whose job description does not include maintaining the Network. This isn't like people are complaining of a lack of information from the fire brigade as an inferno rages.

In conclusion: Sony's fault. Maybe I will have some sympathy if they fix the problem within this two day timeframe and explain what exactly went wrong and why it won't be happening again.

Somehow I doubt that they even know what the problem is. Very poor show.

Having said all that if all in all the Network is down for less than a week a year then that is 95% of the time that it is up and running free of charge. Which is still great stuff. Not perfect but still great.

Echo136:

GonzoGamer:

John Funk:

Or it could just be that the hamsters powering the Sony servers all died. There's that, too.

This group of hackers has never given us reason NOT to take their word for it.
And I'm actually not being sarcastic.

On the other hand, Sony has given us plenty reason to think that they can't keep their shit together. That leap year fiasco (finally looked it up) WAS only a year ago. I guess we're due for their next great screwup.

They are a group of hackers playing bully on the internet doing extremely illegal things. Nobody's private information is safe to them. Why should we EVER take their word for it?

Because if it was anonymous (especially) they would've been gloating about it before anything even happened.

I guess I could give Sony a message like this one.

You can't hold a network together forever with duct tape and bailing wire.

2xDouble:
Wait a second... did Sony actually blame Anonymous or did we make that up? (I know I made it up)

They said it could be an outside attack. Assuming the spokesperson who said it was up to speed then that basically means anything is possible.

That means people running up and down corridors waving their arms about frantically trying to work out what the problem is. Maybe someone tripped on a cable and nobody realized the damage caused, maybe someone pressed the wrong button whilst having an affair in the office and is hiding in a shoe closet somewhere hoping that he somehow won't get fired, maybe an alien leader out there got pwned and ordered his minions to destroy the Network. We just don't know, it's hard to tell. A gang of thugs, a blackmailer, an angry husband, a gay lover...

here is my theory, Sony accidentally made a Statement:False to Statement:True, and like Anarchy Onlines Secret Nerf Spreadsheet, no one told anyone else about it.

Well, guess I will just go play some games on my 360......

after which I will play some PC games.......

Then..... Minecraft.......

Aha, anonops are the splinter group. By the simple act of putting ops on the end of anon they have identified themselves and are in fact, no longer anon in the truest sense.

Idiots.

GonzoGamer:

Echo136:

GonzoGamer:

This group of hackers has never given us reason NOT to take their word for it.
And I'm actually not being sarcastic.

On the other hand, Sony has given us plenty reason to think that they can't keep their shit together. That leap year fiasco (finally looked it up) WAS only a year ago. I guess we're due for their next great screwup.

They are a group of hackers playing bully on the internet doing extremely illegal things. Nobody's private information is safe to them. Why should we EVER take their word for it?

Because if it was anonymous (especially) they would've been gloating about it before anything even happened.

I dont buy it. Thats not good enough for me. Anon is made up of random people with their own ideals and no system of command. Any single agent could have taken it apon themselves to do the dirty deed at any time.

RejjeN:

Onyx Oblivion:
It's somebodys fault! I'm not beating Portal 2 offline. I need my simultaneous Steam achievements. I'd play my PC copy, but I need my trophies, too. Back to Majin, then.

So games are only worth playing for imaginary points nowadays? I'm saddened...

No...My DS, PSP, and achievementless PC games still get plenty of use. But Portal 2 is a game I'm unlikely to ever play twice, and I'd like to get everything I can in 1 run.

Event happens, Internet invents facts. For once, can we not do that? Sony isn't trying to use Anonymous as a scapegoat (at least, not yet anyway). Even then, Anonymous isn't the only group capable of a DDoS attack. I don't recall Sony mentioning Anonymous in the other article.

If we're still going with the inventing facts route, Sony drowns puppies for Satanic rituals now.

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