Portal 2 "Probably" Valve's Single-Player Swan Song

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portal co-op was awesome, if they mean more of that...fantastic. I know plenty of people I can drag into co-op like that.

If they mean no SP *at all* then we have a problem. MP (either co-op or competative) is the bulk of my play time, sure. But some of the MOST fun is a really good SP game. Take KOTOR - no MP game ever came close to being that good.

Still, not taking much from ONE quote. The proof is in the pudding as they say.

Valve just has a habit of jerking their fans around. Which is why I'm not paying them any attention until their games actually hit store shelves. I own a laptop and an Xbox 360, so their products are going on the system that can actually run them.

Just trying to cover my ass so any PC gamer assholes don't automatically condescend to me, but just so I piss them off anyway, Crysis 2 is awesome on Xbox 360. The keyboard and mouse break immersion because of the disconnection between keys and character movement.

They said they are still making Single-Player games, but no more that feel like you are isolated or the only person there. So Half-life Ep 3 is still going on because you obviously arent isolated, being surrounded by combine and rebels.

Pckls:
They said they are still making Single-Player games, but no more that feel like you are isolated or the only person there. So Half-life Ep 3 is still going on because you obviously arent isolated, being surrounded by combine and rebels.

I hope you're right, even though I really like the isolation that is in Portal.

Geoff Keighley. Yeah, because that fuckwit is a reliable source of anything but shit.

If I can't play the game alone, I'm not buying it. I don't mind the option to play with others (Portal 2 co-op mode is nice), but if I have to rely on other people's schedules to even beat the damn thing it's no deal.

Even WoW is still quite playable/beatable solo, which was one of the reasons it took off so well compared to other MMOs that forced you to group - you can't beat the end raids, but I consider those a separate multiplayer game.

Last single-player game? More like the last Valve game I will ever buy, then.

It'll be interesting to see how this works out, but I doubt this means they're totally abandoning it. It's Valve, they're not gonna do something that makes half the fanbase ragequit.

What.
WHAT.
WHAT!!


*Weeps for the triumph and the glory of gaming*

ok....as long as i CAN play single player im fine with this....

Either they completely lost their minds, or they're trying to get attention. Either way, that might mean no more valve games for me (the vast majority of my game time is spent on SP), which is something I'm okay with.

Tom Goldman:
However, it doesn't mean that Valve is going to stop creating single-player games entirely, just games with what it deems an "isolated" single-player experience, meaning that other players might at least have the ability to jump in through a co-op feature or some other method.

Then why did you write the article title as if it were?

I'm sorry, I just see that as incredibly irresponsible journalism. You call Portal 2 VALVe's "possible swan song" of single player games, yet it state right there in the article that "VALVe won't stop making single-player games, just single-player games by themselves." There's already 5-pages of people screaming doom-and-gloom and "dumbing down" for the company for anybody who has not actually read the article. C'mon, you're better than that (unless someone else writes the article titles or whatever).

Anyway, this is an interesting revelation and shows how VALVe are careful with their policies. They only release games when they are absolutely sure it's ready, so an addition of multiplayer on top of strong single player would be an interesting twist to many of their games.

...but I like isolated single player games... :(

Jumplion:

Tom Goldman:
However, it doesn't mean that Valve is going to stop creating single-player games entirely, just games with what it deems an "isolated" single-player experience, meaning that other players might at least have the ability to jump in through a co-op feature or some other method.

Then why did you write the article title as if it were?

I'm sorry, I just see that as incredibly irresponsible journalism. You call Portal 2 VALVe's "possible swan song" of single player games, yet it state right there in the article that "VALVe won't stop making single-player games, just single-player games by themselves." There's already 5-pages of people screaming doom-and-gloom and "dumbing down" for the company for anybody who has not actually read the article. C'mon, you're better than that (unless someone else writes the article titles or whatever).

It's even worse on the front page considering it blatantly contradicts what's actually in the article, which people don't seem to even be reading and are just assuming that VALVe are halting their single-player experiences indefinitely.

No More Single Player Games?

Valve says Portal 2 could be its last single-player experience.

I mean, for fuck sake, that wording had to be done on purpose. There isn't even a strong suggestion of it being a possibility like the original title, but states it as if it's fact when it very clearly isn't.

Amazing journalism right there, causing people to flip their shit for no reason as we've seen in the thread already.

But I LIKE single player! I don't have to worry about someone being available just to play a game!

Damn.. I hate coop, like always i won`t have any friends that bought the same game so i will have to play with random people on the net. I hope half-life 3 won`t have that nonsense in the campaign.

There already was a good thread on this, before this story came up.

But instead of the reactionary types on this thread, everyone pointed out the obvious:

VALVe only made one game with no multiplayer and that's Portal 1.

Flamma Man:

Jumplion:

Tom Goldman:
However, it doesn't mean that Valve is going to stop creating single-player games entirely, just games with what it deems an "isolated" single-player experience, meaning that other players might at least have the ability to jump in through a co-op feature or some other method.

Then why did you write the article title as if it were?

I'm sorry, I just see that as incredibly irresponsible journalism. You call Portal 2 VALVe's "possible swan song" of single player games, yet it state right there in the article that "VALVe won't stop making single-player games, just single-player games by themselves." There's already 5-pages of people screaming doom-and-gloom and "dumbing down" for the company for anybody who has not actually read the article. C'mon, you're better than that (unless someone else writes the article titles or whatever).

It's even worse on the front page considering it blatantly contradicts what's actually in the article, which people don't seem to even be reading and are just assuming that VALVe are halting their single-player experiences indefinitely.

No More Single Player Games?

Valve says Portal 2 could be its last single-player experience.

I mean, for fuck sake, that wording had to be done on purpose. There isn't even a strong suggestion of it being a possibility like the original title, but states it as if it's fact when it very clearly isn't.

Amazing journalism right there, causing people to flip their shit for no reason as we've seen in the thread already.

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...this.

But in all seriousness, I read the article and I really don't understand what the it's talking about. Seriously, either my brain isn't working correctly today or that article wasn't written too well. No offense, man. I'm just having problems comprehending how it was worded.

OT: I don't get it? When they say "last isolated single-player experience" do they mean the last of single-player altogether just to be replaced entirely by only multiplayer? Will they just tack on multiplayer to all upcoming IP's? Are they gonna be adding campaign co-op so your friends can along? Are they simply gonna make it so you have more enemies and NPC's around instead of just walking through the middle of nowhere quietly? Or what? Honestly, did anyone reading this actually understand what it's suggesting?

Let's play a game called ten ways to interpret one sentence.

Portal 2 will probably be Valve's last game with an isolated single-player experience

1. Valve will never make a game with single player ever again.
2. All future Valve games will have single player and multiplayer.
3. All future Valve games will have the ability to Co-op somehow.
4. Characters in a single player game will no longer be isolated from society like Chell was.
5. Future games will have a character select screen, play this level as Gordan or Alyx
6. future valve games will include a sidekick, maybe a talking headcrab!
7. Future Valve games will be split into two versions like Pokemon games and allow people to trade game exclusive hats between the two.
8. Some guy misheard something and decided to scare the internet
9. Valve is going to make a Halflife MMO, and then live off the micro-transactions for the rest of eternity.
10. Portal 2 will be Valve's last game with an isolated single player or multiplayer making it valves last game ever.

See so many ways to take one sentence, personally I'll wait till the next Valve game/announcement before getting worried over hearsay.

Half-Life 3: play as Gordon Freeman or as some other random civilian dude. Or maybe as Barney.

"Portal 2 will probably be Valve's last game with an isolated single-player experience."

Portal 2 also has two-player co-op, so to me that statment means no more single player "campaigns", period. Maybe there will still be co-op in future games that you can fill with computer-controlled players to emulate single player (like in L4D), but it sounds like Chell and Gordon Freeman just can't survive on their own anymore.

That does make me wonder about the next Half-Life game. (You know they are still working on one, even if it does take another 5 years.) Maybe it will end up being a co-op story line instead, such as Gordon and Alyx player controlled throughout the game. I don't know if that's the best way to continue the series, changing the style of the game after it has built a large following based on single player experience.

I don't like what the quote suggests, but I'm sure Valve is going to do what makes them the most money just like any other company. It doesn't mean they've lost me as a customer. I usually don't buy single player games through Steam unless 1) They are on sale at a great price that I can't pass up or 2) I want the game and it's required to have Steam (Valve games are the obvious example). So what I buy from Valve may not change all that much, just the loss of sales from any single player games they will no longer make.

If i cared i might be mad.

Valve "probably" does or thinks of doing a lot of things that never happen. Or don't until they do. Nothing from them is finalized until it's.....well, is anything they've ever done actually done and final even when it's "done?"

I think not.

Either way, this is a notoriously fickle company we're talking about, here. I take everything they say with a grain of salt, until they actually do something.

CardinalPiggles:
NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dont do this valve, single player games made you famous! jumping on the single player/ multi player bandwagon doesnt mean twice as much sales, it means less time devoted to each portion.

they said this would be the last valve game with a single player portion at all. and look at portal 2, they managed to polish both portions well..

Anyways, this is either really good news, really bad news, or valve is just fucking with everyone in terms of episode 3..

Well, Valve, like Blizzard, can now just go and put yourselves out of business as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Yahtzeeist. Single player should stand on its own or GTFO.

Looks like Valve needs a Falcon Kick to the dick by Yahtzee.

Inkidu:
Well, Valve, like Blizzard, can now just go and put yourselves out of business as far as I'm concerned. I'm a Yahtzeeist. Single player should stand on its own or GTFO.

Yahtzeeist brofist, bro.

I seriously doubt this. I really do, and they said "could" anyways.
If Half Life 3 comes with an extra multiplayer feature along with its singleplayer, alrighty then.

if half life 3 has a multiplayer part of it i wont care that much, if it becomes like anyone can join in when im playing single player then i might be a little bit pissed

Theysaid:
"Portal 2 will probably be Valve's last game with an isolated single-player experience."

Portal 2 also has two-player co-op, so to me that statment means no more single player "campaigns", period.

Quoted because people seem to miss this over and over again throughout the thread with hostile remarks towards people who actually understand the implications of this announcement.

ummmm, but portal 2 had multiplayer......

snfonseka:

thefreeman0001:
whats this mean for half life 3

Multilayer in HL 3

I think i just threw up in my mouth a little.

Also: yes, I know that HL2 had a multiplayer mode, but they're saying ALL multiplayer.

Smart move by Valve. Getting people to play together is about the best possible way to drive sales. Word of mouth is king.

Simple solution: I just won't buy Valve games anymore. Problem solved.

It seems quite weird considering Half-life saved us from the horrors of Quake Arena, and Unreal Tournament. Then it held me close and told me everything was going to be alright now, but it never will be will it? (sob)

I'd really hate to see Valve stop making single player games. After all my gaming bread and butter is the single player experience.

I actually just finished Portal 2 and I gotta say it was everything I'd hoped it would've been and more. I haven't played a single-player game that good in years, and god was it refreshing. Now I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Portal 2 be the ultimate conclusion to the series as I feel they left it in a very tidy state at the end.

As for whatever Valve puts out in the future I'll hold judgment on it's quality until it actually appears.

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