One-Fifth of PS3 Owners Are Eyeing the Exit

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I have both a PS3 and an Xbox 360, and I am DAMN glad I have both.

I use my PS3 whenever my xbox 360 dies on me (an occurrence that has happened more often then I care for), and now I'm using my xbox 360 for my gaming while PSN is down.

A lot of my friends who only have a PS3 are raging because they can't play their online games even more than they are because their info got stolen, and if I couldn't play any games online, I think I'd probably be raging as well.

I wonder what this is doing for the PS3 vs Xbox 360 war?

brodie21:
now people are going to say that microsoft did this to get people to switch

It's possible right? <_< >_>

Coupon Codes 4 U sounds like such a reliable source, doesn't it? The number is somewhat believable, but still.

Robot Overlord:
Its not one fifth of ps3 owners if its one fifth of ps3 owners in america... you know, theres a world outside your bubble too right? lawl

bombadilillo:
360 had the RROD for years, PSN just died. PC gaming is expensive to keep hardware up to date. Boy what we all put up with.

Guessing you're not a PC player. It's quite inexpensive really

Not to derail, but I used to be a proper PC gamer but spending money on a high end tv and ps3 I couldnt justify buying a new video card for my pc. Which got old and diespite claims of building a decent gaming rig for ~ 500$ I can't justify spending that much. My desktop is out of date but thats for the kids to facebook on and it works fine for what it does, no reason to upgrade. I am an electronics tech, i can easily newegg myself a rig and assemble it but yes i is expensive compared to buying a ps3=done.

My ps3 cost 300$ and between gamefly (point against pc) and netflix instantwatch it gets infinatly more use then a gaming pc.

For.I.Am.Mad:

brodie21:
now people are going to say that microsoft did this to get people to switch

It's possible right? <_< >_>

theoretically, although i doubt that microsoft would even do that for fear of it getting out

Ainsley Bartlett:

NeedAUserName:
Its hardly surprising, the PS3 was never looked upon as the superior console in comparison to the 360 (either equal or weaker),

I'd be very interested in seeing your reasoning for that.

PS3 had a blueray drive, a greater hard drive capacity built in, Recharable controllers and wireless connectivity all as standard. When the 360 was released it didn't have any of that. While I'll accept the programming language is meant to be easier for programmers to use, I think the other aspects more that make up for programming u=issues which don't really affect the end user. I know you can get wireless/recharable now for the xbox, but when it came out you couldn't and the hard drive was an external attachment.

Except it did come with wireless controllers, the hard drive still came with it with little reason to detach and when the 360 first came out 20 gigs was plenty. Only reason we need more now is because the 360 has added so much content since launch. Please don't shoot your mouth off if you don't know the facts. We also don't have crazy install times which is a plus.

I have nothing against the PS3. Honest. I wanted one badly before all of this happened.

This really has nothing to do with Playstation or Sony. This has to do with moron people that leave their credit card numbers lying around.

1. DON'T leave your credit card on Amazon, Steam, Sony, Xbox, Wii, or wherever. Make single purchases and REMOVE the card when done. YOUR DATA IS NEVER SAFE! NOWHERE! IF YOU JUST LEAVE YOUR CARD OUT THERE FOR SOME ONE TO TAKE.

2. Monitor your purchases

3. DON'T use security questions. At all. Ever. If you need to, then encrypt your answers some how. If the question asks you what your first animal was. People can find that out in Facebook or whatever nonsense easily. Then encrypt the answer by SHA or MD5 the answer. So if you first pet was a "goldfish" it ends up looking like "3efr5h123mfdasddfs231432dmfd234" when you type it in.

4. Use a set of passwords you can remember. If you can't remember passwords then don't use the internet for your daily usage. Use other means to purchase/bill pay/review your sensitive information

Seriously, ANYTHING can be hacked. Especially if its an internal party that helped compromise the safest 'hackproof' system ever.

BDNeon:
Are some people REALLY so naive that they would think because of some screw up, which will ultimately affect no one who actually cares enough to take precautionary measures after this breach, that we will simply give up on the franchises that most of us have been following for 3 generations of consoles, from PS1 to 3?

I buy Sony because they have the games I care about. I don't give a hoot about Mario or Halo or Metroid or Zelda or Gears of War or any of that stuff. I care about franchises like Metal Gear Solid, Uncharted, Killzone, and so on.

Am I miffed that this happened? Heck yes. Do I think Sony could have done better? Certainly. But ultimately, this is all happening because Sony decided to stick up for me, the legit user who actually pays for his games instead of cracking his system to pirate, and also plays fair and doesn't crack his system to run modified software to cheat, while sticking it to the homebrewers, who, argue as you will for what they might have in mind, are ultimately the ones who make everything that the pirates and cheaters do possible in the first place. PSP being the shining example of what the homebrewers who supposedly look out for the end users interests can do to a platform. IF you've ever tried to play a PSP game online, you'll know what I'm talking about.

So if Sony pisses off the hackers, I support them. I believe as gamers we have a right to be free from exposure to cheaters and pirates. And developers have a right to profit from their products and protect them from those who would destroy the security protecting their intellectual property.

I have two playstation systems, original and PSOne, a fat playstation 2, and an original fat 60 gig launch model PS3. I own a PSP-2000 slim and light. I fully intend to purchase an NGP when it's available. I have about 1000$ worth of purchased software for the systems. I am a loyal customer, and if these hacker pricks think that this little stunt is gonna let them win and get me to change sides, then they are sadly mistaken.

THIS. So much THIS it's not even funny. Though as I stated, my only Sony product right now is my PSP and I fucking love that little thing. I like the games I have for it and actually play them MORE than my 360 games.

I also prefer Sony TVs than any other brand offered in Australia. I've compared them at many stores locally and Sony is far better than the others. No need to call me a fanboy at all either, I'm merely stating what I've personally witnessed from shopping around with an unbiased opinion.

Im staying for sure.. 360 blows and I am sure the hackers can do the same shit to the Xbox as they did to the PS3... nothing is secure

PettingZOOPONY:

raklin:

ThatDaveDude1:

You're thinking of the 3DS.

And you're thinking of the ET game that nearly killed gaming in it's infantile stage.

:P

It almost killed console gaming in it's infantile stage. Computer gaming was around since NIM and that was 1942.

Ah, my bad. Learn something new everyday - Hadn't heard about the early days of computer gaming - I'll have to go research that. :D

Saying that you are willing to switch and actually switching are two different things. Just saying.

Also, lol @ sample size.

AstylahAthrys:

Ainsley Bartlett:

NeedAUserName:
Its hardly surprising, the PS3 was never looked upon as the superior console in comparison to the 360 (either equal or weaker),

I'd be very interested in seeing your reasoning for that.

PS3 had a blueray drive, a greater hard drive capacity built in, Recharable controllers and wireless connectivity all as standard. When the 360 was released it didn't have any of that. While I'll accept the programming language is meant to be easier for programmers to use, I think the other aspects more that make up for programming u=issues which don't really affect the end user. I know you can get wireless/recharable now for the xbox, but when it came out you couldn't and the hard drive was an external attachment.

Except it did come with wireless controllers, the hard drive still came with it with little reason to detach and when the 360 first came out 20 gigs was plenty. Only reason we need more now is because the 360 has added so much content since launch. Please don't shoot your mouth off if you don't know the facts. We also don't have crazy install times which is a plus.

I have nothing against the PS3. Honest. I wanted one badly before all of this happened.

Actually, I said rechargable controllers. I know the xbox had wireless controllers on release, but you had to buy batteries (big woop, I know, but when you run out of batteries early in the morning it's frustrating) frequently. 20 gig hard drive wasn't standard, you had to buy a separate external hard drive where as sony built there's in.

Like I said, I'd be interested in the reasons for saying it wasn't superior...

Edit; Just re-read the first post fully and I can see why you thought i meant the controllers weren't wireless. What I meant was the console wasn't wireless as standard!

Ubermetalhed:
God the journalism here is shit.

1/5th of playstation users in the US? Apparently 41 percent of 2132 people equal the entire number of PS users in the US. And 21 percent of that are considering a switch.

I suck at maths but I reckon that means roughly 183 are considering a switch. 183 = 5th of PS users in the US who are 'eyeing the exit'. Seriously this article is actually retarded.

You sir need to take a statistics class. You'd be suprised at how sample size works.

It's unsurprising given that the issue is yet to be resolved, once it is I doubt the survey would read the same result. This issue wont kill the PS3, even if it does shake the consumers faith. Really the ball is in Sony's court, they need to understand public opinion instead of dismissing it as irrelevant and do something about it.

I have a PS3, PSP and a 360. Not getting rid of any of them, thank you very much.

Pachter is suggesting this won't have much of a long-term effect on their consumer base. For once, I actually agree with one of his predictions (you know, other than the stupidly obvious ones). It's going to cost Sony a lot of money, but users will probably return.

I know I will.

Their systems are good and have good games. I could not care less about online play, and even that doesn't require any real information or credit card details. For those reasons, this doesn't weaken my trust in Sony. It weakens my trust in the PSN and I'm never giving it my information or credit card again, but I don't have to. There are lies and point cards for that sort of thing. My new name will be Professor Professorson. I will live in Vocalotown. Not a single fuck will be given by the PSN.

In the end, it doesn't really matter. Shit happens, but I'm still going to play JRPGs until the moon drops into the sea.

Ainsley Bartlett:

AstylahAthrys:

Ainsley Bartlett:

I'd be very interested in seeing your reasoning for that.

PS3 had a blueray drive, a greater hard drive capacity built in, Recharable controllers and wireless connectivity all as standard. When the 360 was released it didn't have any of that. While I'll accept the programming language is meant to be easier for programmers to use, I think the other aspects more that make up for programming u=issues which don't really affect the end user. I know you can get wireless/recharable now for the xbox, but when it came out you couldn't and the hard drive was an external attachment.

Except it did come with wireless controllers, the hard drive still came with it with little reason to detach and when the 360 first came out 20 gigs was plenty. Only reason we need more now is because the 360 has added so much content since launch. Please don't shoot your mouth off if you don't know the facts. We also don't have crazy install times which is a plus.

I have nothing against the PS3. Honest. I wanted one badly before all of this happened.

Actually, I said rechargable controllers. I know the xbox had wireless controllers on release, but you had to buy batteries (big woop, I know, but when you run out of batteries early in the morning it's frustrating) frequently. 20 gig hard drive wasn't standard, you had to buy a separate external hard drive where as sony built there's in.

Like I said, I'd be interested in the reasons for saying it was inferior...

If the hard drive wasn't standard why did my launch 360 come with one in the box?

yeah this sucks that it happened but i will be sticking with my ps3, after all they tell you it "only does everything" (except play ps2 games) i guess that would have to include identity theft.

HankMan:

Master Chief

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WANTS YOU

To buy an Xbox 360

KRATOS

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WANTS YOU

TO BUY A PS3
AND EAT MORE CARROTS


I like my ps3, and have no intention of getting a 360. Already have a Wii, PS3, and decent PC. I don't need another console, when only one game series (halo) really interests me.
*goes back to play Might And Magic/Fancy Pants Adventure
Oh, and it's my blu(e?)-ray player. I seem to have a lack of HDDVDs though...

ssgt splatter:
Maybe Microsoft did it.
*bum bum buuuuuum*
XD HA! Just kidding.

Oh God now I'm picturing a world where the console wars have gone from being a pathetic imaginary idea nerds talk about to genuine open warfare between the big three.

Also - how many of that 20% are actually going to follow through with it if they don't have any mysterious credit charges and PSN is back up stronger than ever? I'd say about 10-20% and that's being generous. So 20% of 20% is 4% of a fraction of their total market... that's not one fifth guys.

bombadilillo:

Ubermetalhed:
God the journalism here is shit.

1/5th of playstation users in the US? Apparently 41 percent of 2132 people equal the entire number of PS users in the US. And 21 percent of that are considering a switch.

I suck at maths but I reckon that means roughly 183 are considering a switch. 183 = 5th of PS users in the US who are 'eyeing the exit'. Seriously this article is actually retarded.

You sir need to take a statistics class. You'd be suprised at how sample size works.

There is no way this is representative of all users in the United States. The amount of variables in picking the sample are ridiculous. The sample is also ridiculously small.

Anyone who takes these results as some form of fact are idiots.

oh the Drama, and the kneejerk reactions that come with them, mind you some of language used by the group that held the survey do not help

"As a video gamer myself, this data theft is especially worrying and I'm not altogether surprised that Sony are likely to see an exodus to console competitors"

exodus? this guy makes it sound like its a religion

"It's clear that gamers across the country have decided that this failing is enough to switch their allegiances to the console's closest rival."

i thought we were over this petty brand loyally/console war BS...

Awesome, maybe time to upgrade to a PS3 if they decide to put prices down to get more people.

C'mon PS3ers! Don't convert to Xboxes! PC gaming is where it's at!

randomrob:
I'm sticking with my Ps3 because I still think its the superior console and that isn't changed because some douchebag hackers compromised PSN.

Disclaimer: The above is my OPINION so if you disagree, please feel free to not tell me all about it.

pretty much this.

Besides, Sony has Persona, and I will not be losing my SMT games. I've also got too much work in mine, and cant go to a microsoft console anyway. Made a solemn promise I would never go back.

Eh, the only thing I know is that I won't be buying another Sony console, not because of this shit, but because they're not worth the cash anymore

F-I-D-O:
I like my ps3, and have no intention of getting a 360. Already have a Wii, PS3, and decent PC. I don't need another console, when only one game series (halo) really interests me.
*goes back to play Might And Magic/Fancy Pants Adventure
Oh, and it's my blu(e?)-ray player. I seem to have a lack of HDDVDs though...

I totally agree. I would like to play the halos, but halo 2 sucked major balls, plus my xbox just dide a slow glitchy death + bluray made me go ps3 and theres nothing making me want to switch.

AstylahAthrys:

Ainsley Bartlett:

AstylahAthrys:

Except it did come with wireless controllers, the hard drive still came with it with little reason to detach and when the 360 first came out 20 gigs was plenty. Only reason we need more now is because the 360 has added so much content since launch. Please don't shoot your mouth off if you don't know the facts. We also don't have crazy install times which is a plus.

I have nothing against the PS3. Honest. I wanted one badly before all of this happened.

Actually, I said rechargable controllers. I know the xbox had wireless controllers on release, but you had to buy batteries (big woop, I know, but when you run out of batteries early in the morning it's frustrating) frequently. 20 gig hard drive wasn't standard, you had to buy a separate external hard drive where as sony built there's in.

Like I said, I'd be interested in the reasons for saying it was inferior...

If the hard drive wasn't standard why did my launch 360 come with one in the box?

I'll be honest, I'm going from memory here, but I thought the 20 gig hard drive was an option available at launch, but not standard with basic console. I may be wrong, and if so I apologise, You may have opted for this, I don't know. I got my xbox second hand from my brother, but I'm sure I remember him paying extra for the hard drive.

Maybe I'm misremembering, I couldn't in all honesty say...

Not surprised that they're leaving the PS3. I am surprised that they think xbox is the solution.

I'm not going to ditch PS3, that's for sure. I don't have cash to buy another console like X360, and I like the prospects of the future exclusives they have to offer (InFamous 2, Uncharted 3, The Last Guardian, whatever will come next from Quantic Dream etc.), so I'm not going to sell it either.

I'm not mad at Sony for the breach, I just changed my e-mail password, and that was the entire danger on my side. I'm just tired of the news piling up about all of this. Please, just fix that damn mess, so I can finally buy and play Mortal Kombat online, mkay? :)

Awexsome:
Well good job Geohotz.

By giving others the capability to break the law you've succeeded in hurting a major corporation. Go burn in hell.

Perhaps Sony could've done better but that doesn't exempt him of what he did. He let this happen with his innocent little, "Oh I can't control what people do with it." Fuck you. Fuck you Geo and die.

Your ignorance is astounding. Don't point fingers when you aren't aware of what you are talking about.

Geohotz simply hacked the PS3. He didn't hacked nor provided any access to the actual PSN/Sony servers. So far I know, you cannot hack Sony's servers through a PS3.

Professional and more dedicated hackers done it. In fact, I think black hat hackers took offense to Sony's arrogance and decided to pull this trick off.

But don't blame Hotz for this, he might be an asshole but in no way the instigator or someone who made this possible.

Celtic_Kerr:
Once in 11 years is actually a fucking good run.

I actually would agree with that. Sony pissed off Anon...no one gets up from that and gets to walk strait for a week.

On the other hand, one could say that Sony brought this on themselves. You do NOT fuck with people who put Linux on their PS3s.

Onyx Oblivion:

AC10:
Jump on to PC instead!
You know you want to ;)

Nah. A lot of PS3 owners are JRPG fans...and PC never gets any JRPG love at all. The last major title it has was...Last Remnant? In all it's mediocrity.

360 gets a fair bit of JRPG love, though.

OT:

I jumped to Sony. I'm not jumping back to MS.

I can't even message people with my "free" account now. Fucking bullshit.

360 gets half love.
PS3 gets full love and extras.

I'll go cry now, being a 360 owner.

HankMan:

Master Chief

image

WANTS YOU

To buy an Xbox 360

bummer for him in my case then eh?

keeping my PS3 (trade in value sucks, i checked) sides, if i got rid of it, I'd have to buy a new blu-ray player >.> I'm not good with my moneys, but I'm not THAT stupid ... >.>;; most the time. sides theres still games I'd like to get for the thing, and since i didn't download any updates for it in >.> like 6 months or so (never online with it), i can always just say 'no' to what ever new ToS they got :p future problems solved

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