One-Fifth of PS3 Owners Are Eyeing the Exit

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I only just got myself a PS3 a few months ago. Im not tossing that money out the window for another console over this.

Sgt. Sykes:
And when Microsoft also gets a security breach like that, will everyone consider switching to PC gaming? Yay.

Why would they do that? If anything they will switch to another console. PC gaming is not going to get a boost from this. Well maybe farmville will.

*Waves to deserters*

Bye-bye boys! Have fun storming the castle!

*Looks back at Sony*

It's mine! MINE! ALL MIIIINE!!! MWA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAA!!!

Sgt. Sykes:
And when Microsoft also gets a security breach like that, will everyone consider switching to PC gaming? Yay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_botnet

Yeah, thats not happening. At least someone is actually fighting the people who hacked the Ps3.

Yopaz:

In that case I have to agree with you 100%, I play mostly singleplayer, and mostly local multiplayer. Quitting because the multiplayer has had problems for a short period of time does seem stupid.

Well seems we're in agreement over the whole thing then! :)

I love single player and hate how so many gamers seem to believe that-based purely on gaming merit-they might as well discard their console if the online service goes down for some time, ignoring the game catalog of the system and the single player merits of those games.

bombadilillo:

Sgt. Sykes:
And when Microsoft also gets a security breach like that, will everyone consider switching to PC gaming? Yay.

Why would they do that? If anything they will switch to another console. PC gaming is not going to get a boost from this. Well maybe farmville will.

Farmville won't, lol, the people who play Farmville aren't really the ones on the PSN.

Sinclose:

Yopaz:

In that case I have to agree with you 100%, I play mostly singleplayer, and mostly local multiplayer. Quitting because the multiplayer has had problems for a short period of time does seem stupid.

Well seems we're in agreement over the whole thing then! :)

I love single player and hate how so many gamers seem to believe that-based purely on gaming merit-they might as well discard their console if the online service goes down for some time, ignoring the game catalog of the system and the single player merits of those games.

Well the trend, THAT I HATE, is for a 5 hour token single player and foucs on multiplayer. If they had proper single player campaigns who would complain? I guess its just a difference of opinion. I just like singleplayer.

zehydra:

bombadilillo:

Sgt. Sykes:
And when Microsoft also gets a security breach like that, will everyone consider switching to PC gaming? Yay.

Why would they do that? If anything they will switch to another console. PC gaming is not going to get a boost from this. Well maybe farmville will.

Farmville won't, lol, the people who play Farmville aren't really the ones on the PSN.

Lol, yeah, I just meant COD fanatics will go play some browser games for a bit and then go back to COD. There not going to switch to hardcore PC gaming.

Anyone who is giving up their PS3, please give it to me as mine broke two days after this started. I don't want a 360 because I already own one of them. Been playing Alan Wake while I try to track down a new PS3. I'm not giving it up. Too many trophies and hard work have gone into my PS3.

ZeroMachine:
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the biggest video-game related fuck-up catastrophe ever?

I kind of pity Sony. I feel like this might severely damages their chances at doing any good in future console races.

Nope

Remember the gaming crash of eighty three, the one that nearly screwed the whole games industry forever.

Yeah, that one.

I would have answered yes to this survey but i already own an xbox.

I don't really doubt the results of the study in conjunction with the coverage of this disaster, but I am a bit skeptical of its validity based off of the scant information provided. They surveyed 2132 people, but essentially only had a response of 874 with no reported margin of error. Hmmm....

Personally, I still love my PS3 despite the breach and wouldn't switch even if I had the funds to swap out my library. The damage has already been done and the best we can hope is that Sony makes their network truly secure going forward. More transparency would also be better.

Also, I don't think enough can be said about how happy I am that The Escapist has taken this story seriously and has offered up better coverage than any other site out there, imho.

Veloxe:
I wonder what fraction of that 1/5th is actually seriously going to stop using PSN entirely and go over to 360 and how many are just stomping their feet until the PSN comes back up and they go back to it like nothing ever happened.

I think it's less about it being down and more about Sony losing info to hackers and then not making a real effort to tell it's users. They posted on their blog instead of their newsletter which probably has 20x the subscribers. I didn't even know they had a blog.

Victor Burgos:
As bummed out as I am by the breach, I am not worried. I don't have any relevant information other than an old email on my PSN account. People who have at least some sense know that they should not leave info like credit card numbers on any computer device. Maybe now they won't leave that sort of information anywhere.

Its not that black and white unfortunately. Imagine a parent who has been pestered to the hills to allow a child to put details on an account and may be unaware of the current problem... it could be a disaster!

I doubt 1/5 of these people will actually end up buying 360's though, but still, Sony is not looking too good after this!

Snotnarok:

Veloxe:
I wonder what fraction of that 1/5th is actually seriously going to stop using PSN entirely and go over to 360 and how many are just stomping their feet until the PSN comes back up and they go back to it like nothing ever happened.

I think it's less about it being down and more about Sony losing info to hackers and then not making a real effort to tell it's users. They posted on their blog instead of their newsletter which probably has 20x the subscribers. I didn't even know they had a blog.

Neither did I actually, although I did get the email about the situation like an hour after I read about the blog. But I was more thinking about how people tend to act in these situations. Yelling to the heavens that this injustice will never be forgiven and running around making petitions to have things changed to their way or they will stop using a system. Yes, this is different then like, an update that someone might not like the changes to but unless people get hit by real world ramifications (identity theft, fraudulent credit card usage, so on) most of them are just going to be blowing hot air while the event is still fresh in all our minds.

I'm sure there is a percentage of people who will not go back to the PSN because of the lost information but I highly doubt it's as high as 1/5th of the user base.

No.

For this data to mean anything we would have to know the percentage of PS3 owners contemplating a switch to the XBox360 before the security breach.

Please, Escapist. Better editorial standards.

Mackinator:

Victor Burgos:
As bummed out as I am by the breach, I am not worried. I don't have any relevant information other than an old email on my PSN account. People who have at least some sense know that they should not leave info like credit card numbers on any computer device. Maybe now they won't leave that sort of information anywhere.

Its not that black and white unfortunately. Imagine a parent who has been pestered to the hills to allow a child to put details on an account and may be unaware of the current problem... it could be a disaster!

I doubt 1/5 of these people will actually end up buying 360's though, but still, Sony is not looking too good after this!

It could be a disaster, but a parent that lets their child put their credit card on a system that can allow them to buy anything at anytime is heading for disaster anyway...

DJJ66:
lol americans are silly.

Hyuk! Your post is sillier!

If people want to leave, then that's their own choice. Personally though it kinda reeks of more money that sense if they want to trade in all their games and fork out more cash for a new console. I'm happy with mine and I can't wait to get back onto the network

I really don't care about the PSN thing...I honestly didn't use it that often.

ZeroMachine:

ThatDaveDude1:
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the biggest video-game related fuck-up catastrophe ever?

You're thinking of the 3DS.

So the 3DS has gotten thousands (millions?) of people's information stolen and has knocked people out of possibly multiple services that they may or may not have payed for? For over a week?

This is news to me.

Yeah, looking for a serious answer here, not a "I hate Nintendo lawls" answer. The 3DS is making them money. Your argument is invalid.[/]

PSN makes sony money... OH YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

See it works both ways ;)

PSN is free to use (not that many people use plus) and so whats a week out of our time. Its only been shut down for so long so that they can have redesign of their defence system. Heck its your own problem if you use the same password for everything.

*disclaimer* I am not a ps3 fanboy I prefer my pc but I do own a ps3 (can't be bothered to pay for live) and this is a opinnion!

Eh, this isn't going to effect me much either way. Still going to be using my PC most of the time. Still going to have to dust off my PS3/360 every time I come back to them.

So... does this mean the PS3 will drop in price anytime soon?

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...what?

I'll keep my PS3 for exclusives and Blu-Ray, but from now on I'll only buy multiplats for 360. Sony's lucky 2011 is a good year for Playstation exclusives...

Tigurus:
I will stay with the PS3
Mostly because I already spent enough money on it and the games for it are good enough for me
I don't like the Xbox360 (mostly because of paid internet & I don't really get wet by their exclusives)
Besides, our information is stolen, so it is too late anyhow. I doubt that this would never happen with Microsoft.

Still a pity and I can see why people would switch over other consoles or even play outside (<_<).
Luckely, I got my pc which pretty much has everything I need =D

you know, all of my friends who own a PS3 feel the same way. it's already happened so why not just stick through it. hell, if anything, i'm actually thinking of getting one. if people are gonna start selling them, the price should drop a little >.<

and i also agree with the Xbox comment there too. the paid internet is kind of annoying (not enough to stop though) and as far as Xbox exclusives go, they are kinda weak and WAY too few. Hell, that kinda goes for both the PS3 and 360. the exclusive titles that each system has are not too numerous and the only three good ones for PS3 (according to my friends) are God of War 3, MGS4, and Killzone 3. The Xbox doesn't do much better, aside from Gears of War and Halo: Reach, all the others are pretty non-existent now that mass effect because multi-platform.

but the thing is, i wish more people would be like Bioware. Mass Effect 2 was a fantastic game and only being on the 360 means a lot of sony fans missed out. being a system exclusive game is a huge risk because it pretty much halves your target audience.

maybe it's time we all just stop arguing about which system is better than the other. maybe it's time that sony fanboys and xbox fanboys should get along. maybe its time that we show both Sony and Microsoft that brand name isn't everything, it's the GAMES that make GAMEing what it is.

...and maybe a monkey will fly out of my butt holding a winning lottery ticket. but hey, a guy can hope. (more for the getting along, less for the monkey)

mjc0961:
I'm not surprised either. I've already gotten a friend request or two from friends who formerly only had PS3s on Xbox Live over the past week. And I know I'm one of the people who falls under the "their trust in Sony and PSN had been 'greatly affected'" category. Although I still think that like any study, it's not worth much when you have somewhere around 40-50 million users (using console sales figures, not PSN accounts because you can have multiple accounts on one PS3; also taking into account some people buying multiple consoles) and you're only looking at around 2,000 people.

As long as those 2,000 people are a fairly random sample, the survey does predict the views of the larger population with a high degree of confidence. You only need to sample a few thousand people to gauge the views of the entire american population with a few percent margin of error at 95% confidence. Wiki link if you want the math and such

ZeroMachine:
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the biggest video-game related fuck-up catastrophe ever?

No. It certainly is one of the big ones, and likely one of the most "out-of-nowhere"; but I would consider the Virtua Boy, the downfall of Sega and the aftermatch of the E.T. videogame as worst catastrophes.

If anyone is jumping ship from the ps3 why would they buy an xbox? Just buy a PC and at least get a better experience as a result of the upgrade. This console generation is pretty much dead anyway.

Veloxe:

Snotnarok:

Veloxe:
I wonder what fraction of that 1/5th is actually seriously going to stop using PSN entirely and go over to 360 and how many are just stomping their feet until the PSN comes back up and they go back to it like nothing ever happened.

I think it's less about it being down and more about Sony losing info to hackers and then not making a real effort to tell it's users. They posted on their blog instead of their newsletter which probably has 20x the subscribers. I didn't even know they had a blog.

Neither did I actually, although I did get the email about the situation like an hour after I read about the blog. But I was more thinking about how people tend to act in these situations. Yelling to the heavens that this injustice will never be forgiven and running around making petitions to have things changed to their way or they will stop using a system. Yes, this is different then like, an update that someone might not like the changes to but unless people get hit by real world ramifications (identity theft, fraudulent credit card usage, so on) most of them are just going to be blowing hot air while the event is still fresh in all our minds.

I'm sure there is a percentage of people who will not go back to the PSN because of the lost information but I highly doubt it's as high as 1/5th of the user base.

It's more like 1/5th the people they asked said they're considering leaving I'm sure. I'm pretty pissed but I'm not going to abandon the PS3. Unless they block the ability to play games because that has the potential for pirating games. Trolol. But seriously, I don't even play games via PSN I just get games from it...I was eying up a game or two. Sad times. ...Oh man if my 'wallet' is empty when their systems come back online I'm gonna be pissed.

Xersues:
This really has nothing to do with Playstation or Sony. This has to do with moron people that leave their credit card numbers lying around.

1. DON'T leave your credit card on Amazon, Steam, Sony, Xbox, Wii, or wherever. Make single purchases and REMOVE the card when done. YOUR DATA IS NEVER SAFE! NOWHERE! IF YOU JUST LEAVE YOUR CARD OUT THERE FOR SOME ONE TO TAKE.

2. Monitor your purchases

3. DON'T use security questions. At all. Ever. If you need to, then encrypt your answers some how. If the question asks you what your first animal was. People can find that out in Facebook or whatever nonsense easily. Then encrypt the answer by SHA or MD5 the answer. So if you first pet was a "goldfish" it ends up looking like "3efr5h123mfdasddfs231432dmfd234" when you type it in.

4. Use a set of passwords you can remember. If you can't remember passwords then don't use the internet for your daily usage. Use other means to purchase/bill pay/review your sensitive information

Seriously, ANYTHING can be hacked. Especially if its an internal party that helped compromise the safest 'hackproof' system ever.

Although you make good points, you can't seriously be blaming the users for this...

I say do it, unless you enjoy having your into stolen

TheComfyChair:
If anyone is jumping ship from the ps3 why would they buy an xbox? Just buy a PC and at least get a better experience as a result of the upgrade. This console generation is pretty much dead anyway.

A kinect maybe, they do look good fun, if you have the money.

I was eyeing the door ever since I started looking into PC games :)
Better online service than the 360, with the online cost of the Ps3. Zilch.

I'm kinda sad that I can't play some of my games since they require internet access (littlebigplanet for example) but all of this will not make me abandon sony and go to 360 permanently. I can wait for as long as it takes for psn to come back up as long as the mistakes can't be repeated. Making me pay for internet on a console is just stupid, I already got to pay cable bills I don't want another 60 bucks that could go to a game to just get crap service on an IMO inferior console to the ps3. Sony has given me the best service, followed by nintendo Wii, but mostly ps3 I have been the most satisfied with ever since I gave it a chance. I don't want sony to die out or else I'll give up gaming forever.

alrekr:

ZeroMachine:

ThatDaveDude1:
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the biggest video-game related fuck-up catastrophe ever?

You're thinking of the 3DS.

So the 3DS has gotten thousands (millions?) of people's information stolen and has knocked people out of possibly multiple services that they may or may not have payed for? For over a week?

This is news to me.

Yeah, looking for a serious answer here, not a "I hate Nintendo lawls" answer. The 3DS is making them money. Your argument is invalid.[/]

PSN makes sony money... OH YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID.

See it works both ways ;)

PSN is free to use (not that many people use plus) and so whats a week out of our time. Its only been shut down for so long so that they can have redesign of their defence system. Heck its your own problem if you use the same password for everything.

*disclaimer* I am not a ps3 fanboy I prefer my pc but I do own a ps3 (can't be bothered to pay for live) and this is a opinnion!

HA! i have to agree with that. the 3DS is making money (even after a pretty lackluster launch, none the less) and i don't think that nintendo has done anything that horrible. well, ASIDE from license Zelda and Mario games to the Phillips CD-i, but thats a whole other story in general.

but there will always be trolls, there will always be fan boys, there will always be war amongst the console gamers. hell, when you think about it, this has been going on ever since Nintendo and Sega. then Sega was replaced by Sony. then Xbox took Nintendo's place because Nintendo appealed to the casual crowd and made a BUTT-TON of cash. i honestly think the only reason that we are still arguing which system is better is because we've always been doing it. there really isn't much of a difference between the two systems. OK hardware is different but GAMING-wise it's pretty much the same, it just depends on what you want in a system

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