Canada Jumps On the PSN Bandwagon

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Canada Jumps On the PSN Bandwagon

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The Privacy Commission of Canada is the latest government agency to wag its finger at Sony, saying it will "look into" the PlayStation Network security breach and customer information theft.

It feels a bit like piling on, but the office of Canada's Privacy Commissioner, Jennifer Stoddart, says it is "looking into a massive privacy breach" at the PlayStation Network. "We are currently looking into this matter and are seeking information from Sony," spokeswoman Valerie Lawton said in an email to the Edmonton Journal. "We will determine next steps once we have a full understanding of the incident."

What those "next steps" might be are unclear, as the Commissioner does not have the power to impose penalties or award damages to aggrieved parties. The office isn't entirely without influence, however; in 2009, a Privacy Commission report found that Facebook was in violation of the Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act, which eventually led to numerous changes in its privacy policies. Lawton said Sony had not notified the Office of the Privacy Commissioner about the breach but added that it is not actually required to do so under PIPEDA.

Stoddard is actually a bit late to the party, as the U.S. and U.K. governments have already expressed their lack of amusement with Sony's PSN antics. On April 26, U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal sent a letter to SCEA CEO Jack Tretton calling for greater openness on the situation and protection for PSN users who suffer financial losses because of the breach, while a day later the Information Commissioner's Office in the U.K. said it would "make further inquiries to establish the precise nature of the incident before deciding what action, if any, needs to be taken by this office."

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Im starting to think buying a PS3 a few months ago was a mistake, if only because every government in the world is going to want to bankrupt Sony now.

*Facepalm*

Wow. This is like instead of your dad asking why you forgot to lock the door and someone stole your tv, your dad, mom, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, other uncle, both grandma's, both Grandpa's and the gas station clerk asking why. Give it a rest already.

Echo136:
Im starting to think buying a PS3 a few months ago was a mistake, if only because every government in the world is going to want to bankrupt Sony now.

Long as SONY deals this shortly, most governments just sit there and grumble. What's the use of collecting a million dollars in fines when your country owes 90 billion? (this was hyperbole).

My surprise is... Canada wasn't the LAST country to attack for once? THE FUCK!!!!!?????

Canada's late to jump in on this... why am I not surprised?

oh canada why did you have to jump on this i thought we were better then this

To be fair, we're in the final week of an election right now so everything's a bit scrambled.

I'm sorry but this is hilarious, Sony is getting chewed out by everyone!

Canada. Struggling to be relevant since 1867

Next up! Germany!! Or maybe Australia. I can't help but wonder if all these 'inquiries' will just divert some of the manpower needed to resolve the issue.

Ok, I can't possibly fathom why pepole think that Sony should not be held accountable for the loss of this staggering amount of private information. If I am not mistaken, they are required by law, to handle this data responsibly, and make sure it is secure. Evidently, they have failed.

Well, this keeps up the Playstation is going to be dead. The US has limitations on punishments, for example under the US constitution 24.5 billion would be considered "excessive" as well as "cruel and unusual". However, I don't know what's to stop the rest of the countries of the world from bankrupting Sony into oblivion and then stomping on the ashes to see if any more coins pop out.

DAMN IT CANADA! This why you're the butt of every joke

Hugums:
DAMN IT CANADA! This why you're the butt of every joke

As the article points out, they did this on the tails of the US and UK Governments.

OT: I have no great love for Sony, but at no point should government be involved in this. Now I'm just annoyed.

Ahem, may I have your attention please.

Canada, the U.S, the U.K. and everybody else on the Sony hate wagon...please, shut up.

Sony has gotten itself into a bad situation and did not handle it well. Now, either help them or get out of the way so that they will have a chance to fix their crap and redeem themselves.

"This isn't the end of the gaming industry, but you can see it from here."

Hugums:
DAMN IT CANADA! This why you're the butt of every joke

So Canada is the butt of every joke because somebody breached Sony's security and stole user information, and later Canada's privacy commissioner made a brief statement to a Canadian newspaper saying that as Sony reveals more information on what happened they will look into what steps (if any) need to be taken to protect it's citizens? That makes oodles of sense.

And Canada is the butt of every joke?
Why did the chicken cross the road? Canada.
Shit, I guess you're right.

Arachon:
Ok, I can't possibly fathom why pepole think that Sony should not be held accountable for the loss of this staggering amount of private information. If I am not mistaken, they are required by law, to handle this data responsibly, and make sure it is secure. Evidently, they have failed.

I don't think anyone thinks Sony shouldn't be held accountable, but I do believe there is a widespread feeling that government intervention is not necessary. No good will come from that. People, individually, should work to hold Sony accountable. But people are so weak, they can't bring themselves to do. I for one, will not be purchasing anymore Sony products, that is the best and most honest way to handle this.

Trolls will Troll.

whether they come from government agencies or not.

So Canada jumps aboard the bandwagon. Whos next? Australia? South Africa? India? Nigeria? Maybe even the whole 54 countries of the British Commonwealth?

Baresark:

Hugums:
DAMN IT CANADA! This why you're the butt of every joke

As the article points out, they did this on the tails of the US and UK Governments.

OT: I have no great love for Sony, but at no point should government be involved in this. Now I'm just annoyed.

It's a government's job to protect it's citizens. When someone steal their private information because of a lack of security, they better get involved.

ShadowKatt:
Well, this keeps up the Playstation is going to be dead. The US has limitations on punishments, for example under the US constitution 24.5 billion would be considered "excessive" as well as "cruel and unusual". However, I don't know what's to stop the rest of the countries of the world from bankrupting Sony into oblivion and then stomping on the ashes to see if any more coins pop out.

^ This, disappointing that noone seems to be trying to help the problem instead of add to it.

Vigilantis:

ShadowKatt:
Well, this keeps up the Playstation is going to be dead. The US has limitations on punishments, for example under the US constitution 24.5 billion would be considered "excessive" as well as "cruel and unusual". However, I don't know what's to stop the rest of the countries of the world from bankrupting Sony into oblivion and then stomping on the ashes to see if any more coins pop out.

^ This, disappointing that noone seems to be trying to help the problem instead of add to it.

I wonder if anyone is even bothering to search for the hacker(s). Everyone just seems to be trying to find out how accountable Sony is. Shouldn't finding the person who took all of the information before they have a chance to do anything with it be a higher priority? Just go do whatever to Sony after the mini-crisis is dealt with.

It's not like Sony will suddenly vanish into thin air in the meantime.

Anyway, for all the people saying they'll stop buying Sony's products...I'm actually going out to grab a PS3 after the price inevitably plummets. If Sony somehow survives this incident, you know that they're going to get the best protection possible...and if they don't, well, the PS3 games that already exist won't vanish into thin air, either.

Disgaea 3/4 will be mine, dammit!

Echo136:
Im starting to think buying a PS3 a few months ago was a mistake, if only because every government in the world is going to want to bankrupt Sony now.

i bought mine last tuesday >.>

lomylithruldor:

Baresark:

Hugums:
DAMN IT CANADA! This why you're the butt of every joke

As the article points out, they did this on the tails of the US and UK Governments.

OT: I have no great love for Sony, but at no point should government be involved in this. Now I'm just annoyed.

It's a government's job to protect it's citizens. When someone steal their private information because of a lack of security, they better get involved.

It's a government jobs to protect it's citizens from threat of violence, or slavery, or forceful removal of personal rights. Not bad business, nor poor information security. And it also depends the government for that matter. For instance, it's not the US governments job to do this, as dictated by the charter we call the Constitution. It's no governments job to protect it's citizens from their own poor choices, such as putting up private info onto a database owned by Sony.

Like I stated previously, intervention isn't necessary in this case. Why can't we all agree to not buy Sony products if it's so offensive? At worst, they will fine Sony, and then Sony will turn around and put that onto it's customers, because that is what a massive, uncaring, and apathetic corporation like Sony will do.

Yay, government will save the day and increase the cost of products from Sony, thanks government. Then what, perhaps pricing controls?

LOL, it's all kinda laughable.

Braedan:
*Facepalm*

Wow. This is like instead of your dad asking why you forgot to lock the door and someone stole your tv, your dad, mom, sister, brother, aunt, uncle, other uncle, both grandma's, both Grandpa's and the gas station clerk asking why. Give it a rest already.

This is nothing like that.
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I will be a hella surprised if Canada somehow helps this case at all.

*sigh* News threads like this only further convince me to stay away from gaming websites until this whole thing blows over. This, the class action lawsuit, the "24.5 billion dollars" that Sony is going to lose over this, the apparent 1/5 of 77 million people leaving the PS3.

IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.

What proof has anyone found of fraud linked to this situation? It's been a week, more than long enough for someone to find something. And yet here we are, nothing. Just more shit piling on based on what? Possibility? Maybe's? You can't bring assumptions and maybe's to court and walk out with a conviction. You need evidence.

Essentially here's a quick wrap up of what we know has happened:

- hacker got into PSN

- hacker likely saw roughly 77 million users private information (i.e: Names, Postal code, email address)

- Sony shuts down PSN within 24hrs of breach.

- Sony let's everyone know the whole situation some days later.

- We remain waiting for PSN to come back.

And.. That's it. People are just being stupid and hysterical. There's nothing you can't do listed that can be appropriately taken care within 20 minutes. Calm down and grow up for fucks sake. This isn't the end of the PS3, it's not the end of Sony. People said the same about Toyota when the gas pedal fiasco happened, and where's Toyota now? They're still here, they were found NOT GUILTY on all charges, and they're still better off than GM and Ford.

Go do something else for once. PSN is down for time being; So tough it out, get a new hobby, shit will be back up and running soon.

I'm out.

O Canada...

...you're a bit late, aren't you?

Skopintsev:
*sigh* News threads like this only further convince me to stay away from gaming websites until this whole thing blows over. This, the class action lawsuit, the "24.5 billion dollars" that Sony is going to lose over this, the apparent 1/5 of 77 million people leaving the PS3.

IT'S ALL BULLSHIT.

What proof has anyone found of fraud linked to this situation? It's been a week, more than long enough for someone to find something. And yet here we are, nothing. Just more shit piling on based on what? Possibility? Maybe's? You can't bring assumptions and maybe's to court and walk out with a conviction. You need evidence.

Essentially here's a quick wrap up of what we know has happened:

- hacker got into PSN

- hacker likely saw roughly 77 million users private information (i.e: Names, Postal code, email address)

- Sony shuts down PSN within 24hrs of breach.

- Sony let's everyone know the whole situation some days later.

- We remain waiting for PSN to come back.

And.. That's it. People are just being stupid and hysterical. There's nothing you can't do listed that can be appropriately taken care within 20 minutes. Calm down and grow up for fucks sake. This isn't the end of the PS3, it's not the end of Sony. People said the same about Toyota when the gas pedal fiasco happened, and where's Toyota now? They're still here, they were found NOT GUILTY on all charges, and they're still better off than GM and Ford.

Go do something else for once. PSN is down for time being; So tough it out, get a new hobby, shit will be back up and running soon.

I'm out.

agree! fully agree. its all bullshit. as for the 1/5 of user leaving... lol CouponCodes4U... sounds legit!

As a Canadian, I can disgustedly say that I wish those stagnant bureaucrats would jump on our real internal issues with as much haste. Not to point any fingers. I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU RCMP!!!

Oh Canada haha gotta love it

PSN éowned

See if anyone gets that!

ShadowKatt:
Well, this keeps up the Playstation is going to be dead. The US has limitations on punishments, for example under the US constitution 24.5 billion would be considered "excessive" as well as "cruel and unusual". However, I don't know what's to stop the rest of the countries of the world from bankrupting Sony into oblivion and then stomping on the ashes to see if any more coins pop out.

not for 77 million violations it would not be, that is like less then 50$ per account stolen, If you are making that statement you have not scene the judgment proposed against lime wire.

Baresark:

lomylithruldor:

Baresark:

As the article points out, they did this on the tails of the US and UK Governments.

OT: I have no great love for Sony, but at no point should government be involved in this. Now I'm just annoyed.

It's a government's job to protect it's citizens. When someone steal their private information because of a lack of security, they better get involved.

It's a government jobs to protect it's citizens from threat of violence, or slavery, or forceful removal of personal rights. Not bad business, nor poor information security. And it also depends the government for that matter. For instance, it's not the US governments job to do this, as dictated by the charter we call the Constitution. It's no governments job to protect it's citizens from their own poor choices, such as putting up private info onto a database owned by Sony.

Like I stated previously, intervention isn't necessary in this case. Why can't we all agree to not buy Sony products if it's so offensive? At worst, they will fine Sony, and then Sony will turn around and put that onto it's customers, because that is what a massive, uncaring, and apathetic corporation like Sony will do.

Yay, government will save the day and increase the cost of products from Sony, thanks government. Then what, perhaps pricing controls?

LOL, it's all kinda laughable.

Sony already tried price increases and people made it perfectly clear what they were willing to pay for Sony systems, if credit card fraud starts becoming a problem due to sonies incompetence then sonies video game sections is without a doubt finished.

To be fair, we've got an election coming up in a few days, so I can understand why something like this would fly under the radar for a few days.
Either way, its just hilarious that Sony gets another set of crosshairs aimed at them.

joebear15:

Baresark:

lomylithruldor:

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It's a government jobs to protect it's citizens from threat of violence, or slavery, or forceful removal of personal rights. Not bad business, nor poor information security. And it also depends the government for that matter. For instance, it's not the US governments job to do this, as dictated by the charter we call the Constitution. It's no governments job to protect it's citizens from their own poor choices, such as putting up private info onto a database owned by Sony.

Like I stated previously, intervention isn't necessary in this case. Why can't we all agree to not buy Sony products if it's so offensive? At worst, they will fine Sony, and then Sony will turn around and put that onto it's customers, because that is what a massive, uncaring, and apathetic corporation like Sony will do.

Yay, government will save the day and increase the cost of products from Sony, thanks government. Then what, perhaps pricing controls?

LOL, it's all kinda laughable.

Sony already tried price increases and people made it perfectly clear what they were willing to pay for Sony systems, if credit card fraud starts becoming a problem due to sonies incompetence then sonies video game sections is without a doubt finished.

I wouldn't mind seeing them out of the business at all. They are unscrupulous and think they can dictate things to the customer base that are unreasonable. Also, interestingly enough, I received their email response to the situation and none of it mentioned credit cards at all. I have to wonder if Sony was a)smart enough to store those on a different more secure server and, b)if the whole credit card part of the equation wasn't just media sensationalism on the part of anyone who reported on the matter. There is also the "c" option where they are lying through their teeth about it.

Also, the ridiculous price of the PS3 is really just them trying to compensate for the piss poor business decision in making a system that was out of reach for the average consumer. Both Sony and Microsoft lost money on the releases of the console generation, for quite a while at that. Both these companies only survive because they do more than just make video games. They have their own safety net, and I can only hope we see the end of these safety nets in the near future, then perhaps they will make better business decisions.

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