Hackers Offer PSN Credit Cards For Sale

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Hackers Offer PSN Credit Cards For Sale

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The hackers who broke into the PlayStation Network are now reportedly attempting to sell the stolen credit card numbers on "underground hacker forums."

"The hackers that hacked PSN are selling off the DB," Keven Stevens, a security analyst with Trend Micro, wrote on Twitter. "They reportedly have 2.2 million credit cards with CVVs." With that ominous notice, the word went out that PSN customers who provided their credit card details to Sony are indeed facing a very real risk of fraud. He said the hackers are claiming the database includes full names, addresses, telephone numbers, email addresses, passwords, dates of birth, credit card numbers, CVV2s ["card verification values," the three-digit security code used to confirm the validity of the card in transactions where the card isn't present] and expiration dates - in other words, pretty much everything.

Stevens acknowledged that he hasn't seen the database and so cannot verify the truth of the claims, but dismissed suggestions that the attempted sale isn't actually happening. "It is not a rumor, it was a conversation on a criminal forum," he tweeted. He also noted that Sony was "supposedly" offered a chance to buy back the information but refused, although Sony's Patrick Seybold denied that claim, saying, "To my knowledge there is no truth to the report that Sony was offered an opportunity to purchase the list."

iSEC Partners security analyst Mathew Solnik said some of the people involved in conversations on hacker forums had detailed information about Sony's servers, suggesting "direct knowledge" of the attack. "Sony is saying the credit cards were encrypted, but we are hearing that the hackers made it into the main database, which would have given them access to everything, including credit card numbers," he said.

The first claim of credit card fraud arising from the PSN hack was made yesterday by an Australian man, who noticed $2000 in new charges on his account including several $1 transactions made on April 23, typically evidence of test runs to determine if an account is valid. Other reports, including $1500 spent in a German grocery store with a U.S. credit card, have also begun to rise to the surface; there is no proof, however, that these charges are actually connected to the PSN breach.

Sources: The Guardian, The New York Times, GamePolitics, thanks to CezarIgnat for the tip.

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And... it begins.

oooh... reading this made me feel sick to my stomach
glad I had a new card issued...
hopefully some d-bag wont be using all my other info to just open up a new card though...

The story on Kotaku made it sound like there's no actual proof that they actually have enough of your CC's info to do this. Has solid evidence come to light since then or is this more sensational reporting?

Heh, almost makes me feel better about buying an Xbox 360.

Almost.

Damn, my condolences to all the PSN users that has to worry about this. I'd feel ill knowing my personal information could very well be sold right now.

"Underground hacker forum", lol.

And now the fun begins...

Gah...I am so goddamn worried about this. I really should go to my bank...

Call your banks people, get your cards replaced.

Imo everyone who ever bought anything online needs to be check there monies regularly. New card, change your email passwords, done.

That's sooo fucked up! i'm glad i didn't had an monetary account, now the problem will be with spams and other tricks!

this really is a low thing to do... Shame on whoever did this.

I don't think there will be a PlayStation 4 after all of this.

Well, I changed up my passwords. Good god this is scary. Whoever the hacker is, I hope he gets mauled. Yes, I wish physical harm on the son of a bitch who stole all this information. I don't care who knows it.

Just checked my account and I still have my prized $0.08 balance (its been a slow mouth:( ) But I'm still changing my card later today.

Are debit cards at risk? I mean it's a silly question but I used a Debit Card, not a Credit card to purchase stuff. Well at any rate this made me feel real bad... I feel nausea now.

Edit: Thanks for all the replies... I'm talking with my bank as I type this.

Someone needs to held accountable

hmmm...can you get a new card from your bank with different numbers and stuff without opening a new account

Is this really any more than a rumor? PSN doesn't take CVV's, I think? Seems to be untrue.

I'll be honest, the CVV issue makes me... skeptical that this is legit. As the Kotaku article put it:

"And I could put a listing on craigslist right now selling the moon for $50 and there's nothing stopping me. Given the severity of the situation and the nature of the claims, though, let's hope "full of shit" is all these people are."

Uh oh...
I am so happy right now that I never used a credit card with my PSN. :|

that is why i only use prepaid cards, all websites should have a prepaid card to purchase stuff. If i need a heart transplant, going to pay it with a prepaid card lol.

HaraDaya:
Damn, my condolences to all the PSN users that has to worry about this. I'd feel ill knowing my personal information could very well be sold right now.

That's the internet in a nutshell. Really if you use any online service that requires such information, you are at risk.

Let's all calm down and remember that the PSN store never asks for your credit card CW2's, so... yeah, that would be strange if they really did get that far.

ANImaniac89:
Just checked my account and I still have my prized $0.08 balance (its been a slow mouth:( ) But I'm still changing my card later today.

Best way to avoid having someone steal your stuff is to have no stuff to steal!

OT: Can anyone confirm these reports? If they can then things just got a lot more serious. This whole mess has made me very concerned about my card security (Don't use PSN but Xbox live has my info). Anyone else here plan on using prepaid store cards a lot more in the future?

farmerboy219:
hmmm...can you get a new card from your bank with different numbers and stuff without opening a new account

Just phone them up and ask them to cancel your card because you think someone might have access to your card details. They'll cancel it on the system and send you a new one.

kajinking:

ANImaniac89:
Just checked my account and I still have my prized $0.08 balance (its been a slow mouth:( ) But I'm still changing my card later today.

Best way to avoid having someone steal your stuff is to have no stuff to steal!

OT: Can anyone confirm these reports? If they can then things just got a lot more serious. This whole mess has made me very concerned about my card security (Don't use PSN but Xbox live has my info). Anyone else here plan on using prepaid store cards a lot more in the future?

Either that or just completely removing my card off the system as soon as I use it. Was trying to remove the card on my xbox live account, but it's tied to my subscription, and so I need to phone them up to cancel the subscription so I can remove the card. -.-

Bags159:
The story on Kotaku made it sound like there's no actual proof that they actually have enough of your CC's info to do this. Has solid evidence come to light since then or is this more sensational reporting?

The bad thing is that once they have your number, it is actually quite is to get the other info for Credit Cards. If you track a users IP address (also easy) then you can find their address. If you have their address, you can use their credit cards...

That's how I would assume they could get all your info. Plus PSN makes in enter all you CC infor anyways, so they have all that.

(shit just got real)

I dont believe these guys have any information. It sounds like just a bluff. Also, I would love to change my PSN password if it were possible.

kajinking:

ANImaniac89:
Just checked my account and I still have my prized $0.08 balance (its been a slow mouth:( ) But I'm still changing my card later today.

Best way to avoid having someone steal your stuff is to have no stuff to steal!

OT: Can anyone confirm these reports? If they can then things just got a lot more serious. This whole mess has made me very concerned about my card security (Don't use PSN but Xbox live has my info). Anyone else here plan on using prepaid store cards a lot more in the future?

BRING IT ON!

I got nothing to lose

And to think not a month has gone by that I changed my information from my home information to my personal information at my new apartment. I feel disgusted knowing they had my parents address

Okay speaking as someone who investigates this kind of crap (albeit on a much smaller scale)
This has the air of bullshit around it. Most thieves even the stupidest ones, NEVER EVER say WHERE they got something they stole. Even online because if you admit where you got it it's much easier to trace it back to you.
If they're selling the information they would just sell it they wouldn't announce "look what i stole" and than sell it. I know crackheads who have more sense than that.
Especially when you throw in the 'sony was offered to buy it back but didn't' thing that sounds like rumor mill crap if I ever heard it. Why would they buy it back? Its not like the information could be copied or anything... oh wait. Sounds like people just trying to find more ways to demonize sony.
We don't need to find more ways. They've done plenty on their own.

Echo136:
I dont believe these guys have any information. It sounds like just a bluff. Also, I would love to change my PSN password if it were possible.

I totally agree on that last bit. I also am not even SURE what info I put on the network. I don't think i had my phone number, name or even address listed. But I can't check.

Misho-:
Are debit cards at risk? I mean it's a silly question but I used a Debit Card, not a Credit card to purchase stuff. Well at any rate this made me feel real bad... I feel nausea now.

Yeah, debit cards are at risk too. Never used my new one on PSN so I'm safe, the one on PSN has expired XD I believe Debit has the advantage of having a 250 limit per transaction without a call from your bank to verify it.

Misho-:
Are debit cards at risk? I mean it's a silly question but I used a Debit Card, not a Credit card to purchase stuff. Well at any rate this made me feel real bad... I feel nausea now.

I believe so, if you used a debit card any money you loose through fraud may not be covered by insurance so contact your bank asap!

Akihiko:

farmerboy219:
hmmm...can you get a new card from your bank with different numbers and stuff without opening a new account

Just phone them up and ask them to cancel your card because you think someone might have access to your card details. They'll cancel it on the system and send you a new one.

kajinking:

ANImaniac89:
Just checked my account and I still have my prized $0.08 balance (its been a slow mouth:( ) But I'm still changing my card later today.

Best way to avoid having someone steal your stuff is to have no stuff to steal!

OT: Can anyone confirm these reports? If they can then things just got a lot more serious. This whole mess has made me very concerned about my card security (Don't use PSN but Xbox live has my info). Anyone else here plan on using prepaid store cards a lot more in the future?

Either that or just completely removing my card off the system as soon as I use it. Was trying to remove the card on my xbox live account, but it's tied to my subscription, and so I need to phone them up to cancel the subscription so I can remove the card. -.-

I find it interesting how this fallout is also un-nerving and hitting XBOX users hard.

Not trusting SONY is one thing, but here and there, you see people losing trust in microsoft as well, just incase this happens again.

About 2-3 weeks ago I was very tempted to put my CC number on the PSN... Glad I didn't

Misho-:
Are debit cards at risk? I mean it's a silly question but I used a Debit Card, not a Credit card to purchase stuff. Well at any rate this made me feel real bad... I feel nausea now.

A debit card is even MORE at risk. Once they use the money on that. It's gone. You're not getting it back, banks aren't required to cover their losses on it at all (which is part of the reason they push so hard for you to have one) Change your account number as soon as possible.

Its the credit card company's time to shine now. Catching the fraudulent purchases is one thing they can do for the people now.
For the people buying the stolen credit card info, I really think that they will end up being victims in this as well. The fraudulent purchases can obviously be tracked, and some lucky law enforcement will be booking some people for having these numbers.
All in all, not too worried about my meager debit card funds. I'm down into the single digits as far as dollars go in that account, and I'll keep it like that for awhile.

I think Sony will improve on their system, maybe even make a couple of security enhancement for their NGP. They have time though, the PS3 has some staying power. But until then, I wanna see my PSN back.

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