PSN Problems Make Trouble for Dark Souls Devs

PSN Problems Make Trouble for Dark Souls Devs

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The game's producer has implied that there might be delays on the horizon if the outage goes on for too much longer.

From Software has admitted that Sony's ongoing issues with the PlayStation Network have proven slightly problematic for the development of Dark Souls, the spiritual successor to its notoriously hard action RPG, Demon's Souls.

While he didn't go into details, producer Kei Horono implied that the PSN situation was hampering development so much that there was a question mark over whether the game would make its October release date. Horono downplayed this possibility a little though, saying that From Software was in contact with Sony and hadn't altered its plans.

It's not hard to see why the PSN problems are having such a negative effect: Dark Soul's has the same punishing gameplay as Demon's Souls but has a much more robust online component. With this in mind, not having PSN available for several weeks must be playing havoc with From's development schedule. Sony has recently said that its network could be working again in a few days, so hopefully From will be able to get back to work properly soon.

Dark Souls is theoretically coming out for PS3 and Xbox 360 on October 11th.

Source: CVG

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First Capcom admit they're having problems because of the PSN being down, now these guys? Is this going to turn into some sort of intervention for Developers? Are we going to have AA style meetings? "Hi, we're TellTale games, and we... are a Developer in Distress." *Applause*

Sorry, just had that image stuck in my haed. :P

Maybe the whole PSN thing is being used as an excuse by devs to push release dates back?

"What? PSN is down, aaaaawwwwww naaaaaaaaw! We can't release the game on time now! OkIloveyougoodbye!"

Those sly devils.

Daystar Clarion:
Maybe the whole PSN thing is being used as an excuse by devs to push release dates back?

"What? PSN is down, aaaaawwwwww naaaaaaaaw! We can't release the game on time now! OkIloveyougoodbye!"

Those sly devils.

More development time is rarely a bad thing. In this instance though, I'm assuming, they can't actually test the games PSN components because there isn't a PSN.

More importantly does this mean Dark Souls are worse than Demon's Souls?

Okay so... develop your primarily single player game to depend on bloody online components less?
I wouldn't imagine as many people buying games that rely on online in any major fashion now with that kind of damocles sword hovering over the PSN.

Daystar Clarion:
Maybe the whole PSN thing is being used as an excuse by devs to push release dates back?

Generally developers want to shorten the amount of time between starting work on a game and actually making money from that game not lengthen it.

9_6:
Okay so... develop your primarily single player game to depend on bloody online components less?
I wouldn't imagine as many people buying games that rely on online in any major fashion now with that kind of damocles sword hovering over the PSN.

Have you ever played Demon's Souls, the MP makes the SP. Both are one game mode.

C'mon every developer still in business!! Lay into Sony, we want our PSN back!!

Yeah, I'll be trying Dark's Soul's on the 360. I hope it's a tad more friendly than it's predecessor.

Sober Thal:
Yeah, I'll be trying Dark's Soul's on the 360. I hope it's a tad more friendly than it's predecessor.

If by Friendlier you mean easier? Then no, Dark Souls will be harder than Demon's Souls. :D

nom'd, my post was nom'd.

Korten12:

Sober Thal:
Yeah, I'll be trying Dark's Soul's on the 360. I hope it's a tad more friendly than it's predecessor.

If by Friendlier you mean easier? Then no, Dark Souls will be harder then Demon's Souls. :D

Not easier... I get that the difficulty is what makes the game (part of why anyways) unique and if were a huge fan of the original I'd be pissed if they made it easier.

Friendlier would mean (maybe) easy of access in the beginning. The insane amount of grinding early on before you level up at all was a bit boring. Then having to wander that damn tower looking for the NPC to continue the story was a pain too. I had to look it up online to figure out what the hell I had to do next. After hours of play, 2 bosses dead, I didn't really feel like my character grew at all.

I guess since I bailed on the game early is my own fault and all, but it would be nice to get a little more progression early, to keep people hooked.

Of course, I haven't heard others express this, it might just be me. I only really heard people say "This is too hard" and then people say "You don't know what hard is".

Sober Thal:

Korten12:

Sober Thal:
Yeah, I'll be trying Dark's Soul's on the 360. I hope it's a tad more friendly than it's predecessor.

If by Friendlier you mean easier? Then no, Dark Souls will be harder then Demon's Souls. :D

Not easier... I get that the difficulty is what makes the game (part of why anyways) unique and if were a huge fan of the original I'd be pissed if they made it easier.

Friendlier would mean (maybe) easy of access in the beginning. The insane amount of grinding early on before you level up at all was a bit boring. Then having to wander that damn tower looking for the NPC to continue the story was a pain too. I had to look it up online to figure out what the hell I had to do next. After hours of play, 2 bosses dead, I didn't really feel like my character grew at all.

I guess since I bailed on the game early is my own fault and all, but it would be nice to get a little more progression early, to keep people hooked.

Of course, I haven't heard others express this, it might just be me. I only really heard people say "This is too hard" and then people say "You don't know what hard is".

IDK, I know they said a better tutorial, but don't know about the rest.

This got a sequel quickly.

Findlebob:
This got a sequel quickly.

When you release a title which requires you to print more copies because everyone ran out i'm pretty sure that's a good sign. Sony must be kicking themselves for not having published it outside of Japan.

Anyways as someone who doesn't own a PS3 or intend to in the near future i'd absolutely love to give the game a go on the 360 being i've watched some friends play on the PS3.

Dark Souls: The game that's as hard to make as it is to play.

I don't know how much respect Game faqs has on here but, if it's worth anything, Demon's souls was in the top ten message boards for over year. Usually only huge games like COD's and final fantasies do that. And besides that, the game got so popular that they kept the servers are still up (theoretically at least, with the whole psn thing)when they originally planned to shut them down after a while. Why the hell would they NOT go for a sequel?

Sober Thal:
Friendlier would mean (maybe) easy of access in the beginning. The insane amount of grinding early on before you level up at all was a bit boring.

I think they'll still have the system where if you don't spend souls as soon as you get enough of them chances are you'll lose them all, being able to lose souls so easily with no way of getting them back is a big part of what made the game difficult.

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Right, by "more robust" you probably mean lobbies and voice chat, yea?

Well screw that stuff. DS has the best online component I know.

If you want to talk to your beer guzzling buddies, call them on the phone.

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Oh, that's too bad. I already preordered the limited edish :)

vrbtny:
C'mon every developer still in business!! Lay into Sony, we want our PSN back!!

I'm of the opinion that they should all lay into each other.
I'm surprised that Sony & MS allow for games that are in a state like Fallout New Vegas was at launch. I think they need to get together and say when something needs to be put back in the oven just as much as the devs need to needle them into supporting/building their platforms better.

Would make sense, since Demon's Souls' online system is actually pretty damn unique. So, beta testing a new and improved version would be pretty important.

That said, pity the poor saps who planned to release PSN-only games in the last month.

joest01:
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Right, by "more robust" you probably mean lobbies and voice chat, yea?

Well screw that stuff. DS has the best online component I know.

If you want to talk to your beer guzzling buddies, call them on the phone.

************** Rant off *******************

Oh, that's too bad. I already preordered the limited edish :)

What they've said before kind of contradicts that, fortunately:

Hidetaka Miyazaki:
"It is very difficult to get the players to actually roleplay - to pretend like you are a warrior, or a vampire. It is embarrassing and becomes a barrier to enjoyment. So by not having realtime voice chat there we are hoping that it will be a lot easier for users to take on the role and see other characters and understand that they are a vampire, they are a soldier and so on."

Edge

Korten12:

Sober Thal:
Yeah, I'll be trying Dark's Soul's on the 360. I hope it's a tad more friendly than it's predecessor.

If by Friendlier you mean easier? Then no, Dark Souls will be harder than Demon's Souls. :D

I too hope it will be friendlier than Demon's Souls, and by that I don't mean easier. I mean a tutorial that covers more than the basic controls, English on the stats screens instead of obnoxious symbols that make me keep the manual open next to me so I can translate, a pause button (no excuse not to have this if I'm playing alone), and the ability to save and quit mid-dungeon to a save file that can only be loaded once before it deletes itself in case something comes up in the middle of a game.

What I played of Demon's Souls wasn't particularly hard. It was just extremely unfriendly towards the player, and now they have a chance to keep the real difficulty in while throwing the fake difficulty out. I hope they take it, because the fake difficulty turned me off from playing Demon's Souls any further than I did (well, that and all the grinding I would have needed to do to continue x_x).

Dark Souls for he 360? The ps3 games I've missed out on were infamous and demon souls. This is great news. (Yes, I know I'm missing the big picture. :P)

okay, keeping me from playing online, stealing my private information, thats one thing...but keeping me from dark souls?! hackers, you have gone too far!

that screen looks sweet.

No. NO! Can't play games online? Fine I'll play split screen or single player. Shit goes on for weeks? Fine I just bought a lot of games to get through, it'll take me some time, I'll live. DELAY DARK SOULS, SEQUEL TO THE GREATEST GAME EVER MADE EVER!? NO GOD DAMN IT! JUST NO!

In all seriousness, Demon's Souls completely shocked me. I thought I'd hate it but bought it out of a nagging curiosity and it instantly jumped to the top of my "Best Games Ever" list, trumping long time king Ocarina of Time. I have never, EVER, wanted to play a game so bad as I want to play Dark Souls. I have been essentially drooling with anticipation. It's also going to be the first time I go for a collector's edition (although in this case since it's the same price as the normal game that's not a real commitment but had there been a more expensive version I would've bought it) because I loved Demon's Souls and I'm 100% positive that I'll love this. I was able to tolerate the PSN breach bullshit up until now, but if it delays my playtime with Dark Souls, I will get legitimately pissed.

mireko:

joest01:
*************** Rant on****************

Right, by "more robust" you probably mean lobbies and voice chat, yea?

Well screw that stuff. DS has the best online component I know.

If you want to talk to your beer guzzling buddies, call them on the phone.

************** Rant off *******************

Oh, that's too bad. I already preordered the limited edish :)

What they've said before kind of contradicts that, fortunately:

Hidetaka Miyazaki:
"It is very difficult to get the players to actually roleplay - to pretend like you are a warrior, or a vampire. It is embarrassing and becomes a barrier to enjoyment. So by not having realtime voice chat there we are hoping that it will be a lot easier for users to take on the role and see other characters and understand that they are a vampire, they are a soldier and so on."

Edge

Thanks! That is great news!!

Although, the snippet below makes me a little anxious:

There's an overarching tension to the story too, as over the course of the game your character's mind deteriorates. "If the mind becomes too far gone then the character will become a zombie or monster," explains Miyazaki.

Because, I got all that, and more, from Demons Souls. I don't think additional exposition is what the story needed.

Lets see.

 

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