Ubisoft: Bring on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox 1492

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Ubisoft: Bring on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox 1492

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An Ubisoft executive wants Microsoft and Sony to get off their asses and deliver the next generation of consoles already.

It seems like only yesterday when Microsoft debuted the Xbox 360, but that was actually all the way back in November 2005 with the PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii dropping a year later. That means this generation of videogame consoles will enter its seventh year this November with no official plans announced by the manufacturers, marking the longest gap between an advance in console hardware the industry has ever seen. Rob Cooper, the Ubisoft executive in charge of Northern Europe, thinks that gap has gone on way too long and his company is chomping at the bit to work with new consoles.

"There have been tons of technological advances since the last round of consoles was released, and we'd love to see those advances included in new consoles sooner rather than later," Cooper said.

Like any good Boy Scout, Cooper wants Ubisoft to be prepared. "The sooner we have the next generation of consoles to build on, the sooner we can leverage those advances to create the next generation of video games."

Kinect, Move and even Nintendo's rumored new console just don't cut the mustard for him. "The peripherals and the updates to the existing generation have been great, but it's typically new consoles that really spark innovation from publishers and the demand from customers," he said.

What do you think? Has game design become stale from working with the same hardware for too long? I never considered that new technical toys might push design concepts forward, but I don't think better processing is necessarily going to result in better games.

Source: MCV

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I'm fine with my Ps3 and Wii, what I'm not fine with is spending more money.

Oh yeah.... it's soooo stale. L.A. Noire, Skyrim.... these games are all crap. If only we had a new console.

/sarcasm

Nope. It's not needed yet. Give it another couple of years.

Sure, let's get the next round of consoles so it can take 4 times as long for a game development. The current generation is fine, we don't need to push forward yet when the current tech isn't being fully optimised.

Yes, what we need is better graphics. Near-photorealism isn't enough for me, I want many more millions of dollars to be poured in the graphics race so the industry becomes so bloated with expensive but graphically advanced shooters that it finally crashes.

Nobody cares about gameplay creativity or artistic expression, all that matters is that the next yearly installement of (the once innovative) Assassin's Creed can come out on a brand new 600$ console.

No, don't bring them on. Current consoles are just fine, thank you very much.

New consoles means increased costs, for everyone.

DO NOT WANT.

What exactly is so urgent that he needs a new console generation?
Some more polygons?
The current generation (except for the wii) is pretty competent in that regard.
Hell have they even fully utilized the ps3 yet?
There also aren't even any actual kinect games yet and that thing sold like sliced bread so there's plenty left to do in this gen.

2013-2014 would be nice for the next generation. Right now, it would be too soon. By all means plan them and distribute development kits Sony, MS and Nintendo. Just don't launch them yet.

Xbox 1492? The fuck? What does that mean?

Sorry, I'll make a more constructive comment:

Why 1492? Also, why do we need another console... Ever? The 360 and PS3 have hardware out the ass to make things look as absolutely pretty as possible. Plus, they have online services that allow you to download pretty much any game you want off of Xbla and PSN. So... What will the new systems bring? Anything? Anything at all besides newer hardware?

Ehhhh.

I'm sick of spending money - my gaming rig wasn't cheap! So no more console generations any time soon, makay?

I don't think we're getting PS4 anytime soon.

Ubi stop fucking your franchises up, listen to your fanbase.. and then MAYBE we will let YOU voice your opinion you bunch of wankers.

gaming inovation comes from the minds of great devs, not new hardware, maybe if ubisoft did any inovation this gen people would listen, but all you have gave us is shit inferior sequals.. AC was your only saving grace and the first was shit and its starting to get stale now due to..i dunno lack of inovation in the game?

if it aint broke dont fix it

I don't want to see PS4 and others just for the fact that new hardware always means more shovelware launch titles from Ubisoft. The 3DS was more than enough to remind us that they're still doing it. Meanwhile, everyone else is still making fantastic games on the current hardware, so it's obvious that we don't need new platforms right now.

Just go die in a fire, Ubisoft. The game industry doesn't need you.

I feel like we've finally entered the comfort zone of this generation, and this bozo wants new consoles already?

Somehow I think this'll be my last console generation, so I hope it'll stay for atleast a good three years still.

Yes because lack of graphical power is clearly the main problem these days...

I think its too soon. Whenever someone says "we maxed out the 360/PS3" someone else comes along and builds on what they've done and takes it further. Besides, compare Assassin's Creed Brotherhood to Uncharted 3 and tell me they're getting the most of the current generation. Ubisoft needs a new engine, not a new console.

9_6:
What exactly is so urgent that he needs a new console generation?
Some more polygons?
The current generation (except for the wii) is pretty competent in that regard.
Hell have they even fully utilized the ps3 yet?

So far I know, Engine of Final Fantasy, engine of Drake's Fortune, and the Cryengine 3, has pulled out the full potential of the Playstation 3,

And still the current generation consoles, cant deliver the mindblowing scenery that was possible with Crysis on PC, I think that is what they want, Moar Power to make it more Pwetty and Colorfull

This just makes me wonder what the rush is. I haven't played many of Ubisoft's newer games but I'm guessing they like to market their games on "shiny graphics!" rather than actual gameplay, that's the only reason I can think of anyway.

9_6:
What exactly is so urgent that he needs a new console generation?
Some more polygons?
The current generation (except for the wii) is pretty competent in that regard.

Developers could do tons of cool things with more than 256MB of system memory.

They won't, mind you, because this is the age of dumbing down and homogenization, but they could!

No! This generation is just getting to it's more interesting parts!

Besides, new technology means a higher pricetag that you have to cope with if you want to play new games.

I'd rather not spend $600 on a new console yet.

He has a point. A new console capable of new things would bring about some innovation and interest in consumers, sure. However, presently, the industry needs a different sort of innovation, an innovation that will be turned to DESIGNING better, more unique games with exciting new mechanics. Instead of adding in the technical nuts and bolts, they will have to explore new genres, storytelling techniques, Etc. This console generation can last another 10 years for all I care. Ill be glad when technological innovation comes, but I think this may force developers to try their hand at some other innovation first.

If the current generation hardware is a concern, just switch to PC. Hardware innovation hasn't stopped there; that's the "technological advances" Mr Cooper is referring to after all.

I rather think it's a benefit to have the same hardware for longer periods of time; at least it was before manufacturers started artificially limiting their hardware and putting ridiculous price tags on licensing middleware.

It wasn't until the last NES, SNES and PSX games that we really got to see what the hardware was capable of. In the Nintendo cartridges they actually started adding more hardware, even!

With the current generation, there's alot of pointless overhead in the OS and middleware; all the faux security and verification nonsense, heavy system tasks and overuse of network connectivity; the 360 binds one of its processors to system tasks even, and so on.

We certainly haven't seen what the PS3's Cell processors are really capable of. The idea of writing efficient and efficacious software seems to be out of style. Devs seem to just want more power so they can write code faster and at lower quality, but still get better results.

That's one part of computer software development I was hoping wouldn't carry over to the consoles, but seeing as patches are now as common on consoles as the PC, I guess we're past that point already.

Consoles are just subsidised and specialised PCs with 5+ years old hardware, it seems, and that makes me sad.

Dam it! The Templars have taken over Ubisoft!

Why do we need new consoles? I mean, games are expensive already this generation to produce, so just think of how it'll be in the future. It's not worth all the shiny new graphics.

Also, if the Xbox 360 successor still uses DvD's, then that would mean that every game would require at least 2 discs.

i think they need to start developing the next console but i dont think it needs to come out for the next two or three years. we are just now tapping into each consoles potential and i would hate to move on before need be

think about it, it has only been recently that we have begun to see multi-disc games being released and most of those are due to lack of blue ray compatibility for the 360 (which better be in the new console) and the graphics are still improving on consoles

am i excited for a new console? yes
do i want a new console right now? no

it just doesnt make sense to release a new console during a recession here in the states and the companies (besides nintendo) dont really have to update their console

Eggsnham:
No! This generation is just getting to it's more interesting parts!

Besides, new technology means a higher pricetag that you have to cope with if you want to play new games.

I'd rather not spend $600 on a new console yet.

I've actually gotten rather bored with AAA console games. I mean, what of note is being released this year that isn't a sequel to a game that wasn't very all that fresh in the first place? Aside from Portal 2?

BloodSquirrel:
Developers could do tons of cool things with more than 256MB of system memory.

They won't, mind you, because this is the age of dumbing down and homogenization, but they could!

Sure they could always have better this, better that but they can do tons of cool things with the current gens specs too.
I mean if you could do that with the ps2 then the potential for a ps3 or 360 is still endless.

For instance, they've actually gotten realistic facial animation to work on the current "crappy" consoles just now.

If you open this Guide: http://tinyurl.com/FalconGuide about building yourself a PC and compare it with the Technical Specs of the current Consoles we are slowly getting to GameCube/Playstation compared to PC levels of differences again before the more "Advanced" consoles came out.

The Xbox360 for instance is placed somewhere a lot below the "Minimum" Spec with only 512MB RAM and the ATI Xenos (which is a hybrid between R580 and R600 from 2005-2006, those cards aren't even sold anymore for at least 3+ years). It is even below the "Destitute" build in things like Harddrive space, but especially most damning the amount of RAM.

Games on new consoles are going to get new things like Tesselation, Real Time Radiosity Lighting Technology, Bokeh, improved AI routine APIs etc. not to speak from increased resolutions and framerates (the current consoles love running games at or below 720p at ~30FPS) and level of detail/polygons on both models and textures that will make an immediate difference right out of the box.




Ultimately we are heading towards Real Time Raytracing, it might take another 10 or so years now till games will look like Pixar movies and games can be rendered real time to look like this:

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For now they are still rendering those type of things on 32Core Supercomputers and it still isn't Real-Time

A new generation has been overdue for a few years at least already...

The problem is the era of a console hasn't been long enough. Take the PS2 for example probably the longest running development cycle on any console and they didn't peak it's performance till the very end. They still haven't hit the end of the potential with latest consoles so why move to something new.

I get it, I'm in the programming industry, new coding concepts and design come out and you want to use them but the hardware lacks the ability. Normally this is in play of saving time and not optimizing, it's not that it can't be done on what it's running on but isn't as fast as they would like it. However unless every dev company starts complaining that they max out the potential and want to move on there is no reason move.

9_6:

Sure they could always have better this, better that but they can do tons of cool things with the current gens specs too.
I mean if you could do that with the ps2 then the potential for a ps3 or 360 is still endless.

For instance, they've actually gotten realistic facial animation to work on the current "crappy" consoles just now.

But they could do tons of cool things and even more on top of that with new consoles. If AAA studios weren't obsessed with creating 5-hour "cinematic" games with zero player agency the current console technology would totally be holding them back.

Have they gone mad?

They may need a new console to play around with but I sure as hell don't, I'm happy with the current generation right now. I realize they can do cooler things with more power than what the PS3 and the 360 have, but remember all the cool games that the PS2 had and it wasn't really a technical powerhouse.

Settle down Ubisoft, you will get your new console eventually.

Truly-A-Lie:
I think its too soon. Whenever someone says "we maxed out the 360/PS3" someone else comes along and builds on what they've done and takes it further. Besides, compare Assassin's Creed Brotherhood to Uncharted 3 and tell me they're getting the most of the current generation. Ubisoft needs a new engine, not a new console.

I think we have maxed out on this gen, outside of a few graphical tricks this is as good as it gets. I dare say pretty much any new game has to be held back for consoles. Be it lower resolution, shorter draw distances, no physx, lower framerates, lighting effects removed etc. BF3, Crysis 2, and any triple A PC game will be lesser on consoles just because there is only so much you can do on 6 year old technology.

ACB doesn't look as good because it has to render a larger area in a mostly unscripted environment, with 10s of AI whereas uncharted is mostly linear and you can allow for more tricks.

OP, I've been waiting for a new gen since last year hopefully one comes out by 2012.

Dexter111:
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Dude... spoiler tags more media like that. Not everyone's internet and browser handle images that large gracefully.

BloodSquirrel:

Eggsnham:
No! This generation is just getting to it's more interesting parts!

Besides, new technology means a higher pricetag that you have to cope with if you want to play new games.

I'd rather not spend $600 on a new console yet.

I've actually gotten rather bored with AAA console games. I mean, what of note is being released this year that isn't a sequel to a game that wasn't very all that fresh in the first place? Aside from Portal 2?

I don't mind sequels as long as they look fun.

For instance Skyrim looks pretty kickass.

Battlefield 3, while not a fresh concept, looks like it could be a pretty good game.

A sequel to Demon's Souls, called Dark Souls, is coming out sometime this year, methinks.

Plus there are a couple of promising DLC games being released soon. One of them being a sort God-sim-terraforming-creation type of game.

I mean, none of these games are particularly unique, namely because we've thought of so many things that it takes creativity and developing talent which isn't very common to make truly unique games.

I'm also really easily amused, so as long as the game looks nice and has some interesting gameplay, I'll be playing it for hours =]

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